A more mature version of Sims?

From my point of view EA already realizes that there is a big chunk of adult customers within fans of Sims, and that is why they don't ban various more or less morally wrong mods available on the internet.
At the same time I am quite sure they won't make a Sim installment exclusively for adult people, as most of Sims content is addressed to teens. Look at the whole vibe of the game, whole "streaming" services, popculture stuff and radio stations available in the game. It aims at teens, obviously, as it always was.
So as people said before me, mods.

There is a few... scenario's... I can think that mods have added to the game, that if they were introduced into my EA version of sims I'd just step away from the game in general and would not allow my daughter to play it.

I honestly think rating the game T for Teen reaches a larger audience, and people that want more adult themes and things have mods available. I understand some people don't want to play mods, but Sims has never been the type of game that many people think it should be. Maybe GTA is more their style. At any rate, I don't want my sims running around, murdering or getting murdered, working the pole for dollars, and a large variety of other things. And when I do get the urge to dabbling in that type of game play, I like that I can download a mod, play that way for however long suits me, and my daughter can still play a cleaner version of the game on her computer. Then, take out the mods when I'm done.

And there has never been code removed to stop modders from modding the game. As Luthien said, it was changed, but we are all back to normal now. The only thing is some modders may have decided to not update their mods, making them obsolete.

I think I get where you're coming from because I've mentioned wanting something like this before.

And to clarify, wanting a Sims game that pushes over the T rating doesn't mean I want a game filled with violence and sex. It just means I want a game that goes back in the direction of the concepts of Sims 1 and 2. Those games were a little less "child friendly" and contained slightly more mature themes, yet many people still felt it was safe enough to let their kids play it. They were still T rated back then, but the ESRB standards were different at that time and Maxis has even stated that they can't do some of the things they used to without it breaking the limitations and crossing the line to an M rating. So essentially, the ESRB has actually changed to put more limitations on games and is a huge contributer to why this game feels more childish than the others. And personally, I think it's unreasonably unbalanced because if you compare this game to a PG-13 film, they should be on the same level and it certainly doesn't feel like it.

But wanting more mature themes simply means wanting more consequences and realistic failures. It means having more passionate kissing animations and "goosing" and dancing very close with a sly, subtle touch like we used to have. It means having a creepier Grim Reaper, Sims having fears and anxieties and breakdowns and being allowed to be upset or in a dark mood in response to their circumstances. It means the possibility of crime, like having your house robbed, or having a rebellious teenager sneak out for the night with friends and return in the back of a police car to be punished by their parents. It means having real rejection, relatable reactions, and flaws that cause realistic obstacles. It means facing traumas and playing out the challenges of overcoming them or falling into despair. In essence, it just means honesty in the simulation of the life of a virtual species that mimics the trials and tribulations of humanity.

I don't know why the ESRB rating has changed to baby people more these days, but it does hold back the potential of the game. I would love to see an additional Sims game created for mature players that allows for full creative liberty to develop and explore these things and more.

The game is fine the way it is as far as ratings go - it does not need a more mature version. Simmers prove that by still mking it one of the top ten games out there for now over 19 years. Leave well enough alone.

There are plenty racy, raunchy games out there - the Sims is just good - clean fun - and I hope it stays that way. I am sure it will seeing Maxis has always said they will never do anything to change it's rating.

ETA - By the way the present ratings of the Sims cover everything that has been in the game since the first sims game. So if something you liked in previous games is not in the game presently - it has nothing to do with the ratings - but is the choice of the developers or some other reason the present game does not have it. I understand slow dancing thus far hasn't been added to the game simply because they have not added it - nothing to do with ratings.

@LiELF I was going to say something similar to this and I agree with your post completely. I don't necessarily want the rating to go up to mature, but I would like to see it go back in the direction of the sims 1 and 2. Maybe aim more towards the higher end of the teen rating than the lower end as a compromise.

Thank you for your comments @LiELF and I agree with you completely. Probably the cutest romantic animations were in Sims 2 and I wish EA would bring back at least slow dancing to Sims 4. It's too bad when an agency such as ESRB has to think it must protect us from ourselves.

I'd very much want this and not just for violence and sex as @Lief pointed out. I'd love a game that could at least go as far as past games did without developers worrying about the rating. As in oh we can do this it will push the T rating. I want things like fear. I want some more realistic situations. I'd like sadness and dark emotions to work with. I want to play out things I see in television shows and movies today. The Sims doesn't have to go into the toilet to at least set up simulation that can do this of course I have no doubt that some people will see it as being corrupted. I'm torn though because I do like the funny situations so basically the type of simulation I'd like... Well I'm not sure it would actually be the Sims anymore.
Mostly I'd like them to build a base game that could go in either direction. Perhaps when you buy it you buy for "E" or "M". I mean it's all going to be digital right? They could determine what is unlocked or available for the story depending? Would be even better if it were somehow made into a game where you could unlock the "M" later if the customer aged up or wanted those senerios. For those that might want to keep it more disneyland... they could.

The slow dancing option would be great to have. I miss this option from the sims 2 game.

But when it comes to the rating, I think the game is fine as it is. There are enough games out there with violence. I like the light tone of the sims. Light entertainment, just for fun.

I herd that they were considered a self love option but you know eww

"Simburian;c-16951466" wrote:
Lack of imagination here so I just give up.

Well to start, that's extremely dismissive of you to say. But apart from that, you haven't bothered to clarify what these "mature" themes you'd like to see consist of (apart from killing off aliens). So if you feel we aren't being imaginative enough, then it's up to you to go into detail. That's the point of a discussion.