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- Hmm, always throwing around entitlement is rude to other players. It is not entitlement when they advertise a product in a certain light to get people to buy said product. They even handed out demos (alpha and beta) of said product to influencers to further their sale pitch. Back in my younger days this would be called false advertising. People pay for said product have the right to get what was advertised. What you are calling entitlement is actually used in a negative and rude way. They did not give this product for free. They charged for it.
- AineOfMaySeasoned Spectator
"gamekitten;c-17534227" wrote:
Hmm, always throwing around entitlement is rude to other players. It is not entitlement when they advertise a product in a certain light to get people to buy said product. They even handed out demos (alpha and beta) of said product to influencers to further their sale pitch. Back in my younger days this would be called false advertising. People pay for said product have the right to get what was advertised. What you are calling entitlement is actually used in a negative and rude way. They did not give this product for free. They charged for it.
Yeah, I actually watched those game changer videos and was looking forward to playing with that apartment with the balcony. I feel tricked. :s "lisamwitt;c-17534106"Telling a guru what YOU think they HAVE to do is entitlement, and it's rude.
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree here. I'm a computer engineer and I worked as a programmer before. I know that deadlines are so tight and you don't have much time to do the job. I know the pressure they (programmers) have to deal with. I know, so I don't blame them.
I blame the company that let some bloggers show the world how cool the balcony was in the apartments when THEY KNEW already that there were problems with them and probably balconies would be left out.
I blame the company because they waited 4 DAYS after the release to explain themselves. They didn't tell the people the problem before the release because they were afraid it could impact on sales.
The company hasn't been honest, they should have told us BEFORE we spent 40€ (or $) that balconies were out of the picture.
I can't tell a customer that I will do something and 4 days later after I got paid I just tell the customer that... I did my best to have that feature but I couldn't do it. That IS NOT FAIR.
I truly don't mind to wait a bit more before the release so the game can be tested and programmed as it should be. This company rush things too much and the result is this mess. The balcony is not the most important bug in the game right now. I can't barely play because the main feature: the eco-footprint in all the world tend to neutral even when ALL lots are green. If the main feature of your product is not working... maybe you should think carefully that maybe, just maybe, you are doing something wrong.
I know they really don't care because every new release brings lots of bugs. I really don't buy the excuse: "The Sims is a very complex game and it's very difficult to test all possibilities". I'm sure it's a difficult game to program and test, I'm sure it is, but it's not my problem. I'm a customer and I paid 40€ for a game that I can't play right now. If they just can release 2 packs each year, it's ok for me, but I expect some quality...- LadyGray01Seasoned HotshotDeleted.
- Lonewolf1044Seasoned Spectator
"Aine;c-17534049" wrote:
@SimGuruFrost You guys need to figure it out, because not having a usable balcony is not acceptable IMO. I understand that you had to release the pack like this because of the bugs it caused, but honestly I expect more from a AAA game developer than just giving up. One of the biggest problems the game has it that you guys can't handle bugs.
The fact that the balcony is unusable makes the apartment basically unplayable to me. It's a big bummer, and that's not even accounting for all the other feature breaking bugs in this pack. I don't even know what to say anymore. All of this is just sad.
Preach for I agree! - I commend the Sims team for thinking outside the box and cramming a ton of new features and game play into this EP. This was a huge undertaking, and it's one of the few EP's that truly feel expansive enough to be considered an EP. And it will be even better once the game breaking bugs are fixed. I really do hope that the flack they receive over this does not hinder them from trying new things and experimenting with new game play features in the future. That being said...
As a 20-year veteran player of the Sims franchise, I feel entitled to the game that is shown and hyped prior to release. I waited to see the balcony apartment in the live stream, but they steered clear of it. Then the Game Changers came out with their videos showing the balcony in use. If it was known to be missing from the game, then it should have been brought to the community's attention prior to release. And given that they knew to stay away from it in the live stream tells me they knew then, before the Game Changer videos. To not be forthright is a severe lack of judgement at best, or underhanded at worst. And then they waited four days after release before even addressing it once the majority of simmers who would buy the pack have already done so.
I'm not angry. I feel insulted. If they had told us in the live stream the lengths and depths they went to make it work and it just couldn't be done, I would have been disappointed, but I would have understood. It's the delivery of this news that I take issue with. That's the insulting part.
I was fine with the My First Pet pack even when many simmers felt it was a cash grab. I was totally cool with Eco having reused animations if it meant more stuff and game play. I have dutifully reported the oodles of bugs I've encountered, and I'm waiting patiently for them to fix most (and the modding community to fix the rest.) Eco Lifestyle is still one of my favorite packs thus far, and I'm glad they took the risk.
So there you have it. My criticism/praise sandwich for what it's worth. - Arguing about a balcony? Only in the Sims community! We really are special huh :lol:
- crocobauraSeasoned Ace
"FlpAmaral;c-17535115" wrote:
Arguing about a balcony? Only in the Sims community! We really are special huh :lol:
The balcony is really an extension of the uneditable neighbourhood and very few lots. TS3 set expectations very high. - Lonewolf1044Seasoned Spectator
"crocobaura;c-17535120" wrote:
"FlpAmaral;c-17535115" wrote:
Arguing about a balcony? Only in the Sims community! We really are special huh :lol:
The balcony is really an extension of the uneditable neighbourhood and very few lots. TS3 set expectations very high.
I really thought Sims 4 could have expanded on Sims 3 or even Sims 2 but I guess I was wrong. :) It is not like many would accept what EA/Maxis did with Sims 4, If Sims 2 or Sims 3 did not exist Sims 4 probably would have been accepted by many and there would be no controversy, but that is not the case here as many played Sims 2 and 3 and many liked what was offered EA/Maxis cut everything and here we are today. Sims 4 has improved but in certain areas and not where it counts for me. :) "crocobaura;c-17535120" wrote:
"FlpAmaral;c-17535115" wrote:
Arguing about a balcony? Only in the Sims community! We really are special huh :lol:
The balcony is really an extension of the uneditable neighbourhood and very few lots. TS3 set expectations very high.
It was just a joke. I mean, in what other game community do you see people arguing about a balcony? :smile:
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