Content from DLCs in the basegame

"@Sthenastia;c-17926488" wrote:
This is what I found some days ago:

"Basegame" wooden floor:

https://i.ibb.co/1qW6Vhf/spaday1.png

Wall panels from Spa Day:

https://i.ibb.co/gy9hNNx/spaday2.png

It was obviously same set, but currently this floor panels are in the base game.

What are you talking about. That floor was never part of Spa Day. Just because something looks like a set to you doesn't mean anything.

"Felicity;c-17928990" wrote:
But in Sims 2 and 3, you could ice skate on the ponds if it was cold enough in winter.

Sorry, I have to correct, not in TS2. TS2 has ice skating and rollerskating rinks.

I have no problems with "gameplay" elements being added to the basegame as it makes things more complete and helps things get usage in multiple worlds.

Build and CAS items are better left distinct.

And here's where we get into the question of 'what are you buying that pack for'. I considered Seasons a very off purchase because it had no new world. To me, even paying $5 would have felt too much. I got it only because I've been looking to be completionist and it had such glowing reviews so I figured I would eventually figure out what the fuss was. It did have a good amount of CAS and Build mode - so in time I've come to see the purchase as justified since I got it for 50% off. But most of it is gameplay and the game is better off the more of that that can be replicated in multiple packs.

Island Living was the only EP I bought outside of a sale. I saw Carl's review panning it as a horrible release, and that pretty much let me know I had to buy it. And I'm glad I did - it has exactly what I value out of an EP: a large new and very different world with a good number of lots, and not too much gameplay tweaking as that is stuff I prefer go into wider availability.

"GeminiChick;c-17928828" wrote:
I completely agree! Look at the upcoming pack, for the perfect example. The kids cooking and gardening and the awesome pond tool were clearly made for the pack and that’s what it looked like (to me) in the trailer. And then we find out that it’s going to be base game. I feel like a chunk of the expansion is being given away.

Personally, I’m glad they are adding these to the base game. I don’t think we should have to buy an EP for our children to be able to help with the cooking and gardening. The pond tool should be a base game feature as well. We had to wait 7 years for these things so they didn’t necessarily come out of the budget for this EP, and even if they did, it’s way different from the hot tub situation where that was a main feature of a pack people might not have bought had they known we would get a free hot tub several years later.

This game is after all almost 7 years old, so it makes sense that there will be some repeats. This is nice for people that are just getting the game. As long as the dev also put in new stuff as well it's all good. ;)

It really bothers me if the main feature of a pack gets put free example hot tubs, I do wish they stop doing this , I do remember they put quite a lot of tops from get famous to base game, although i know there's some that can't afford all the packs, for the people that do own it, its not completely fair, I wouldn't mind it if it was similar to what we got from a pack but not the actual item, at the end of the day games are a luxury not essential, I really don't know why people that paid for pack have the same items from that pack for free a little while after it, I would say that it's more unfair than people that haven't or couldn't buy it

looks like they're making the vegetarian trait from CiLi BG as well - it's included in the build GCs have.

"LeGardePourpre;c-17930035" wrote:

"g01denswan;c-17930030" wrote:

"LeGardePourpre;c-17929876" wrote:

"elelunicy;c-17929060" wrote:

"@Sthenastia;c-17926488" wrote:
This is what I found some days ago:

"Basegame" wooden floor:

https://i.ibb.co/1qW6Vhf/spaday1.png

Wall panels from Spa Day:

https://i.ibb.co/gy9hNNx/spaday2.png

It was obviously same set, but currently this floor panels are in the base game.

What are you talking about. That floor was never part of Spa Day. Just because something looks like a set to you doesn't mean anything.

This case is similar to the Basketball outfit

The jersey is in EP03 City Living and the shorts was in GP05 Parenthood but became a basegame content.

"LeGardePourpre;c-15801851" wrote:
Did you know it ?

GP05 Parenthood brought the shorts for the basketball jersey from EP03 City Living.

Are the base game shorts identical to the Parenthood shorts? Or are the colour swatches different?

I checked the game files, it's 3 additional color swatches (Scarlet, Purple and Teal).
It's a source of confusion because the filter finds these shorts in basegame content but the basketball colors are game pack content.

Thanks. So they aren’t giving away paid content then, and everyone benefits equally from the additional colours like everyone benefits equally from the matching floor tile the OP complained about. It appears that some simmers are confusing ‘similar’ with ‘identical’.

@Jyotai I can't envision playing without seasons. And TS4 is the best implementation of seasons sans the festivals from TS3 and the ability to skate on ponds. I love how each world has different weather. Raining in windenburg, go to del sol valley. Snowing in Newcrest, head to sulani. lonely, befriend patchy, or a bunny, or father winter. bummed kids go to school during the summer, create summer break holiday. It is such a flexible pack even though it didn't come with a world. I hope you like it.

also can't envision playing without the calendar. When it hits base game folks without seasons will really love it.

Except for the hot tub, I never noticed stuff from existing packs going to base game. Just that stuff created in new packs were base game like Off the Grid from Island Living. What annoyed me about that is you need Eco Lifestyle to truly enjoy it. & I won't get EL because of some naps

"troshalom;c-17932695" wrote:
@Nikkih the hot tub thing didn't bother me, because in TS3 they released hot tubs in one pack and then in future packs they released different variations of hot tubs. I was stunned when they didn't do that in TS4. Kinda awful that there is a limitation in the style of hot tubs.

Also I was one of those people who refused to purchase a pack for a hot tub and was glad they gifted us the hot tub.

BTW for a game that is not a subscription game we should be grateful they do give us things free. Granted many things should've been base game as it was in the past, but over all, they can do whatever they want. Give freebies or not. Giving freebies keeps people engaged in the game and interested when new packs come out. Some may even purchase the pack after playing with freebies

Why should I be grateful getting something for free which I already bought ?, in the sims 3 hot tubs were never the main feature of a pack never in the sims 4 it is, that's like making washing machines & dryers for free, people actually bought this pack to get it then we get it free, if I'm being honest that would be a kick in the teeth, the people that didn't buy the pack of course would be happy and not bother @troshalom