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EgonVM
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6 days ago

Compatibility & Self-Discovery Explained

Hi!

This thread is a 2.0 version of these threads put together:

Due to spoiler tag issues in this forums and how the post hierarchy system works here (and how posts can be collapsed), I've decided to make a new thread which could also look in other things.

Turn-ons and turn-offs for example, even though the description of each one gives you the exact into which attracts sims.

This thread contains info on the following topics:

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If you have any additions or suggestions, let me know! Comment under this main post or any other post that isn't linked here!

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    Self-Discovery system

    What is Self-Discovery system? It's a system which add new personality traits to young adult and older sims. Young adult and older sims can have a maximum of 6 personality traits. If self-discovery moments come to younger sims or pets, decline them.

    Most of the self-discovery moments come from Growing Together. A few special cases won't require the pack.

    Each trait is put in one of the categories which the game tracks. Some categories categories have maximum and minimum values while others only have a maximum value. Once a certain threshold is met, the game will either:

    • Suggest your sim a random trait from the category.
    • If one of sim's traits is in the category but in the opposite value, a trait replacement is suggested.
    • If sim already has a trait from the category and in the same value, nothing happens.


    Sims can have up to three self-discovery moments in their life. Declining a trait suggestion won't count towards the limit. Using a Re-Traiting potion will remove the extra traits (unclear if it resets the counter though).

    Here is each category. Under each category I'll show what traits are associated with it and include additional posts on the message and interaction that help towards it. If it's a category with minimum and maximum values, I will use + and - symbols to indicate it (+ can replace - and vice versa).

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      Active

      It seems to track how actively your sim spends their time.

      This is a min/max value category, including these traits:

      • Active +
      • Lazy -


      More info:

      • Potential Interactions
      • Suggestion messages
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      Ambition

      It seems to track how successful and confident your sim has been.

      This is a one-value category, including these traits:

      • Ambitious
      • Overachiever
      • Self-Assured


      More info:

      • Potential Interactions
      • Suggestion messages
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      Animal

      It seems to track how much does your sim spend time with animals.

      This is a one-value category, including these traits:

      • Animal Enthusiast
      • Cat Lover
      • Dog Lover


      More info:

      • Potential Interactions
      • Suggestion messages
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    Sim Characteristics & Social Compatibility

    If you have Growing Together, then you have a new likes and dislikes category: Sim Characteristics.

    When you put on a Sim Characteristic preference, it will take effect on other sims as soon as you meet them (if they have the right traits). Each Characteristic has traits that add points (+) and traits that remove points (-). If the Characteristic is dislike, the points will be reversed. So 3 points would become -3 points.

    Here are the characteristics and what traits they include:


    The final compatibility score is a sum or both sim's compatibility score. And if it's not neutral, a puzzle piece icon will indicate their compatibility. Here are the compatibility tiers and their point ranges:

    • Amazing: 6 and up
    • Good: 2 to 6
    • Neutral: -2 to 2
    • Bad: -2 to -6
    • Awful: -6 and lower

    So, for example, if Sim A has 3 points towards Sim B and Sim B has 4 points towards Sim A, it totals up to 7 points, making the game show Amazing Compatibility for both of the sims.

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      Ambitionless Sims

      Ambitionless Sims tend to lack the motivation to improve personally or professionally. They might avoid putting in hard work in their career, or maybe they prefer to laze about their messy homes.

      Liking Ambitionless Sims means other Sims with traits like Lazy or Slob will gain some compatibility with your Sim. However, traits like Ambitious will lower their compatibility with your Sim.

      Traits:

      • Slob +3
      • Lazy +3
      • Professional Slacker +3
      • Generous (For Rent) +1
      • Ambitious -3
      • Overachiever (High School Years) -1


      Lifestyles:

      • Workaholic -1
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      Argumentative Sims

      Argumentative Sims tend to quarrel often with other Sims. Perhaps it's because they feel a bit insecure, or they like the thrill of winning a debate. Or maybe they just enjoy being mean!

      Liking Argumentative Sims means other Sims with traits like Hot-HeadedMean, or Evil will gain some compatibility with your Sim. However, traits like Good will lower their compatibility with your Sim.

      Traits:

      • Evil +3
      • Hot-Headed +3
      • Mean +3
      • Self Assured -1
      • Proper (Snowy Escape) -1
      • Good -1


      Likes:

      • Research and Debate (Discover University) +1
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      Cerebral Sims

      Cerebral Sims tend to favor logical, scientific, or technological pursuits. Perhaps they enjoy a competitive game of chess, diving into a new book, or achieving virtual greatness in video games!

      Liking Cerebral Sims means other Sims with traits like GeniusGeek, or Bookworm will gain some compatibility with your Sim. However, traits like Creative or Goofball will lower their compatibility with your Sim.

      Traits:

      • Genius +3
      • Geek +3
      • Bookworm +3
      • Wise (For Rent) (Elder Only) +3
      • Quick Learner (Aspiration bonus) +1
      • Creative -1
      • Goofball -1
      • Cringe (For Rent) -1
      • Muser (Aspiration bonus) -1


      Likes:

      • Video Gaming +1
      • Programming +1
      • Robotics (Discover University) +1
      • Rocket Science +1


      Lifestyles:

      • Techie +2
      • Technophobe -1
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    Turn-ons and Turn-offs & Attraction

    To be filled in the future...

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    Update Log

    This post collects any new additions and changes after a patch or pack release. Wondering what's new or changed? Check here first!

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      Life & Death

      Sim Characteristics

      The new traits affect the following categories:

      • Chased/Embraced by Death
        • Hard-Working Sims +1
        • High Energy Sims +1
        • Spirited Sims +3
      • Macabre
        • Pessimistic Sims +3
      • Skeptical
        • Argumentative Sims +3
        • Pessimistic Sims +3

      In addition, good news for Horse Ranch owners: the traits now affect the compatibility scores!

      • Horse Lover
        • Pet Enthusiasts +3

      Self-Discovery

      The new traits belong in these self-discovery categories.

      • Chased by Death - Ambition
      • Macabre - None
      • Skeptical - Snob

      In addition, there's a special way to obtain Chased by Death self-discovery moment as one of the outcomes from checking Grim's sablet of souls.