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4 years ago

Customizable Pronouns First Look

https://twitter.com/TheSimCommunity/status/1483523796925571080?t=uIY-ungWtQAsmzyu4FDoCA&s=19

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  • "leo3487;c-18041315" wrote:
    "kusurusu;c-18041314" wrote:
    "EA_Cade;c-18040899" wrote:
    "Nushka;c-18040897" wrote:
    @EA_Cade how will gender neutral pronouns work with police career? Oftentimes gender is one of the clues about crime suspects.


    Forwarded up the chain, I'll let you know if I get more on this but most likely it will be addressed in a Livestream or blog post on The Sims section of EA.com. :)


    Unless the game is going to generate non-binary Sims on its own, this shouldn't be an issue.


    Then if it is tied with gender patch, you will no see generated sims with non-binary or custom pronouns, unless have mod to allow non-binary sims


    In that case the clue you'd get would be determined by your suspect's default gender and not by any customizations or pronouns.

    In addition to that, clues usually come from eyewitnesses telling you what the suspect looks like or traces (which might contain their DNA) left by the suspect themselves. Finding out about someone's pronouns would require talking to them (which I think is very unlikely here).
  • As a Builder, I couldn’t care less about pronouns. Just give me a #%$&#% pool table for crying out loud! ?
  • "leo3487;c-18041221" wrote:

    if well I know it is a joke, but race and religion never will be here
    1) Sims series cant talk about religion
    2) Race? The Sims 4 also include non natural skin colors



    The Sims already has religion or religious items, clothing or systems from the series as a whole. Its just not a main feature in TS4. The sims team could add it in 4 if they really cared to.*cough* The SE removals *cough*

    Not much is known about religion in SimNation since it is a secular nation. There appears to be no official state religion, and there seems to be an absence of organized religion in The Sims, The Sims 2, The Sims 3 and The Sims 4. However, churches were present in the original SimCity and in SimCity 2000, and SimCity 4 includes the option to build Houses of Worship and Cemeteries in the city. And in The Sims 4 Sims can leave a sugar skull offering, showing, along with the description that Sims celebrate the Day Of The Dead. Religion was probably deliberately left open-ended for the player to decide how to envision religious practice in The Sims.

    Sims do appear to believe in an afterlife and the supernatural, but not in any religious way. The Grim Reaper appears in The Sims and its sequels and deceased Sims appear as ghosts. Also, various occult-related items, activities, and, in the case of The Sims: Makin' Magic an entire sub-neighborhood related to the occult have appeared throughout the series. They also seem to be somewhat aware of the player as they sometimes wave to get the players attention when something's wrong, as if breaking the fourth wall.

    In The Sims, the description of a few Decorative items makes mention of not only Christianity and excommunication, but also of Graeco-Roman paganism and related deities, such as Aphrodite and Ares.

    In The Sims 2 there are mentioned real life religions, such as Judaism in Chanukah Menorah, Catholic and Puritans in Gingerbread House and Buddhism in Osho Nuff Tablet.

    In The Sims 2: University, students majoring in Philosophy will take a class entitled "Who Controls the Pie Menu and Why?", implying that some Sims do take part in some sort of philosophical-religious debate; however, this is probably intended as a joke for the player, who controls the pie menu (usually presumed to be invisible to Sims, much like the PlumbBob) and is therefore in a sense "playing god".

    In The Sims 2 for Nintendo DS, a god called the Prime Heifer is revealed. Ava Cadavra has the player build a shrine for the Prime Heifer's statue, but it is later destroyed by the player's Sim and replaced with a statue of an Egyptian God by Horus Menhoset IX. In The Sims 2 for PlayStation Portable, the Kine Society, which was founded by Dominic Newlow and is led by Sinjin Balani, worships the same god under the name Beelzebeef.

    In The Sims 2: Bon Voyage, visitors to Twikkii Island may accidentally anger an ancient island god, Jumbok IV, by desecrating the ruins of his temple. The long-dead tribe of island people in The Sims 2: Castaway apparently worshiped a llama god, as another ruined temple containing llama idols can be found on Volcano Island. However, the temples of both gods have fallen into disrepair, suggesting that they are part of an ancient system of beliefs no longer followed by either the islanders themselves or their neighbors in SimNation.

    In The Sims 3, Hortimus is mentioned to be god of sun and plants in Sun disc object.

    In The Sims Medieval, Sims partake in a form of religion resembling medieval Christianity. While the religion itself has no mentioned name, it consists of two named branches; the Jacoban Church, which relies on being feared and that the Watcher is a vengeful God, and the Peteran Church, which relies on being loved and that the Watcher is a loving God. Assuming The Sims Medieval and The Sims series take place in the same universe, it appears that the religion survived in the modern age and the Sims in Selvadorada believe in the same God.

    Assuming the Sims universe is in the same universe as the game Spore is, the Spode Cult may be a religion followed by Sims; however, the Spode Cult may have formed later, formed by an alien race, or the game may not even take place in the same universe.

    In Windenburg and Brindleton Bay, a church-like structure makes an appearance as an environmental building, but it cannot be visited.

    The Sims 4: Jungle Adventure reveals the Omiscans believed in a being known as the Watcher and complex religion, describing creation of Sims and afterlife in Glyphs.

    The Sims 4: Cottage Living added a new location "The Bramblewood". The Isle of Volpe National Park which druids are referenced to have inhabited, suggesting some historic religious practices (possibly nature/ animal centred) in the area.
  • Looks nice, but I hope pronouns are auto filled to the sim's body shape if you don't feel like filling them out or forget. Concern: How will the sims team deal with language barriers? Some languages they have male and female pronouns, no definite singular they/them translation.

    In spanish, will the they/them pronoun definite and singular be elle, and bonito would be changed to bonite? I.D.K. If those terms are officially accepted, I have heard them as regular dialect in only some places. Will custom pronouns be accompanied by gendered words ending in e (bonite)? How will they be dealing with the game outside of english versions.
  • "BettyNewbie1;c-18041438" wrote:
    Looks nice, but I hope pronouns are auto filled to the sim's body shape if you don't feel like filling them out or forget. Concern: How will the sims team deal with language barriers? Some languages they have male and female pronouns, no definite singular they/them translation.

    In spanish, will the they/them pronoun definite and singular be elle, and bonito would be changed to bonite? I.D.K. If those terms are officially accepted, I have heard them as regular dialect in only some places. Will custom pronouns be accompanied by gendered words ending in e (bonite)? How will they be dealing with the game outside of english versions.


    They are currently doing a lot of research and exploring the possibilities. The devs have stated that the first incorporation of pronouns will be in just the English version so I imagine the other languages will be changed later as they continue research and testing to find a respectable solution.
  • "Cinebar;c-18041600" wrote:

    This can and sometimes does lead (if you look at social media) of many people being called names, on both sides of an argument, and or felt to be left out and or to have to conform and or to have to go along to get along. Children are very impressionable, it's ok if someone wants to display their pronoun, but then again those who never thought about and or even care about it, may be lead to feel they aren't part of a cool group if everyone starts doing this but this isn't something they would want to do. Predatory behavior isn't always what people think it is, it can also be cancel culture cliques that ostracize those who may descent from others pushing social change.


    This is true. Talking to a friend today she is in school, she says some people change their pronouns even weekly (granted they are in HS) but its hard for her to keep up. Not to mention she said shes made to feel like she is an outsider or boring because she is straight and doesnt use other pronouns. This is not me saying other people dont have the right to use them, Im just sharing an experience I heard myself.
  • "doggers123;c-18041217" wrote:
    Imagine if it randomized pronouns for townies... You would get a sim with the pronouns fdhs/fdgbxh/gcfdbh


    Come on, fhqwhgads. Everybody to the limit! :D
  • I've never seen a profile pic change announced with 'her' or 'his'. ? Did you see this recently? Maybe @EA_Cade can shed some light.
  • Personally, I thing the new pronouns are a bit wordy & silly to add after the name of the sim.
    That would be like me introducing myself as: Jane Doe Her/She/Daughter/Mother/Woman/Lady/Girl.
  • "EA_Cade;c-18040373" wrote:


    • Players will choose for themselves whether to use the pronoun feature or not (similar to frame choices).



    @EA_Cade
    This is great, I hope this means we can choose if the pronouns are displayed over the sims aswell? It's a feature I would use sometimes but a lot of the times not at all, so it would be awesome if we could choose. Especially if we could choose it for different saves.

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