Detective career broken?

I've had GTW since it came out but have never played it, not only because of the various bugs that have periodically cropped up in each of them, but also because of the problem of going to work with one Sim while others at home are on their own all day.

Now I'm playing a single Renaissance Sim that only has to get to level 3 for his aspiration so it doesn't matter after that if he gets wrong clues or gets fired for arresting wrong suspects.

First case: His clues are Female, Adult, Long Sleeves, and Slacks, but he gets sent to a gym. So much for the clothes clues, eh? Outside on the sidewalk, Paolo is doing push-ups but points directly into the gym where I see two Sims, a female and male. Too easy I think, but not necessarily so. The female is a YA, so two clues match. The male only matches one clue: Adult.

Still out on the sidewalk, Geoffrey Landgraab has walked up to my Sim and seems to attach himself for some reason. He follows me into the gym where I find there are actually two more Sims directly in the line of fire that couldn't be seen from the sidewalk. One is a male Adult wearing Long Sleeves. Again, two clues match. Another not seen is an Elder Female on the lower level by the pool in a swimsuit. Can't be her.

Since I now have two Sims out of four that have two clues matching, I ask Geoffrey Landgraab. He turns to the right and starts heading down the stairs to the lower level (pool). I follow to see if he points to the Elder. Taking more than a half hour, he has crossed the lower level and gone up the left stairs back to the original 3 Sims upstairs, back to the two of which have two clues that match.

Then what does he do? He joins that group of 3 suspects upstairs and generally waves his hand to show me it's 'one of them'. Thanks Geoff for taking all that time to show me ... what? Not much!

So I asked another Sim. Clueless. I decided to arrest the female but just before I do, a co-worker came up behind me. Oh yeah, it was my first case so I was supposed to have help with it, being new. She didn't have the 'Detective' designation that should have shown, but I asked anyway. She walked up to the Female, Young Adult, and almost pointed right in her face. The FYA stepped back with kind of like a 'Whoa ... Who Me?' Gotcha!

I know it's going to be harder and more problematic as I go, perhaps because of bugs, but it really is a hoot right now and I'm lovin' it! He got a promotion and is on Level 2. We'll see how it goes and then move on ... maybe Scientist? I've never been to Sixam.

I think it is bugged again. It had been months and months since I played this career. I never had a problem finding the suspects in the whole time I had GTW and got several Sims to police chief. However, the other day I had one rejoin and I couldn't find the suspect. I had four clues because it wouldn't let me get anymore (no option) on the pc or the machine so I had to go with four. It said a female, jacket, slacks, brown hair. At the lounge that was going to be hard inside so I waited outside to see who showed up.

The only Sim in the whole area who fit that description was a female who had all the clues but her hair, she had a male blond hair style. I didn't arrest and went back to police station. It wasn't even one of the unisex hairstyles but one still behind the filters so I assume this change in CAS has borked the detective career. But I have no idea how she wound up with a male hairstyle that isn't part of the unisex ones...and blond.

I skipped this chore after that. Because all he had to do was show up to work for two day and get promoted so I wasn't going to go back and get the same Sim again (I had already tried it twice at two different locations).

Detective career is a waste of time. I would do repeated loads & APBs for my first case's suspect; I quit after being unable to find the suspect after 6 reloads of the same day. Effectively, that was 6 days of game play wasted looking for someone who does not exist. The game fails to consider that NPCs will change clothing, which eliminates 2 sets of clues, or account for aging up. I never went after an APB, unless I could generate the clues and go after the APB on the same day - knowing that a day-old clue set is worthless. Furthermore, there is alot of others commenting about how so many "meets all clues" suspects are false arrests. For example (from my own gameplay), I had an insane teen with black hair wearing X & X (I had all 6 clues). So I scope out & arrest the only teen in the area that matched all six criteria ... FALSE ARREST! WHAT? Are there that many insane teens in this area?

Additionally, why can you keep discovering new clues when adding evidence to the Case Map, yet, only get a max of 6 for the APBs?

Assuming you can play past the massive amounts of bugs, you only get to do it again & again for 6 repetitive cases. There is no reason to advance, you do not get support from fellow officers, no ability to actually give orders, or even compare to the Scientist or Doctor careers.

If you look to the patch notes, since Get Together came out there wasn't any big bug fixing update. Only like small fixes here and there. I just hope thread like this will help and they'll notice it.

"relevanceirre;c-15769001" wrote:
Bump :'( Incorrect description, arrested, then isn't showing up at the station.

Hello.
I am sorry that you have had these issues.
Try having your sim leave work early, then when they go to work the next day, the suspect may then be there.

"relevanceirre;c-15769229" wrote:
> @rosemow said:
> relevanceirre wrote: »
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> Bump :'( Incorrect description, arrested, then isn't showing up at the station.
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> Hello.
> I am sorry that you have had these issues.
> Try having your sim leave work early, then when they go to work the next day, the suspect may then be there.

> @Andiratyme said:
> Supposedly if you arrest them and go on patrol or go back to the crime scene and come back the suspect should eventually appear. You might have to do that multiple times though.



I actually just solved it like 10 minutes after this post. So I tried the going home, and going back to work the next day (didn't work), so what ended up working for me was I memorized the name of the suspect, made friends with them outside of the job, and the next day after we had knowledge and friendship (no introductory options anymore), they appeared at the station.

Suspect did not match the description of who I needed to arrest at all... so I saved before I randomly arrested people. Had to issue APB's 3 times at different locations trying to figure out who was the common factor of all of them. At one point one of the sims was like "Uhh, isn't that the person over there?" where I arrested the sim, who turned out to be correct. But they did not go to the station with me. I restarted the game and went back to the same place, but now the sims kept leaving and would not let me speak to her.

Therefore I went back to the station, re-issued an APB and looked around for her everywhere. At one point, at the library, there was a book that was hovering around with no ghost. I asked one of the people if they had seen the suspect and he was like "Oh I saw a person like that over there!" Upon saving and restarting, the hovering book then revealed the sim that I needed. I then went to arrest, took me to the station, and she wasn't there. I restarted the game again to try to get back to that point, and then it was a different sim. (I tried to arrest that one to see if the game had auto generated a different criminal, but it did not). Upon several more restarts I just issued another APB...

That's when I just decided to see if I could make friends with the sim (my sim was a vamp so hard to meet them during the day. I tried to just invite them to the station before making friends but they wouldn't come since.. work is during the day). The next day, after a brief chat, she has now shown up.

In conclusion to the Criminal not showing up at the station after making the arrest: Finish your day, find the sim outside of work, make friends with them, and then they will show up the next day.

As for the APB description.. I tried not to use too many cheats, but I ended up saving before every arrest until one person didn't say it was unlawful. Haha...

Hello @relevanceirre
It is helpful to read the workarounds that you did to fix the issues. It is a great suggestion to make friends with the suspect outside of work hours! It will help other simmers who have the same issue.

I really hope the Gurus look into the issues with the detective career, there are so many of them now. I dont want the career to end up like the active careers in the sims 3 ambitions which were broken around the time island P came out and were never fixed (still broken to this day).

I want to do Detective Career but all this reported bugginess is putting me off. You shouldn't have to work around it - the bug plain shouldn't be there. The patchers need to fix it - it's the biggest part of being a Detective after all.

> @rosemow said:
> relevanceirre wrote: »
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> > @rosemow said:
> > relevanceirre wrote: »
> >
> > Bump :'( Incorrect description, arrested, then isn't showing up at the station.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello.
> > I am sorry that you have had these issues.
> > Try having your sim leave work early, then when they go to work the next day, the suspect may then be there.
>
> > @Andiratyme said:
> > Supposedly if you arrest them and go on patrol or go back to the crime scene and come back the suspect should eventually appear. You might have to do that multiple times though.
>
>
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> I actually just solved it like 10 minutes after this post. So I tried the going home, and going back to work the next day (didn't work), so what ended up working for me was I memorized the name of the suspect, made friends with them outside of the job, and the next day after we had knowledge and friendship (no introductory options anymore), they appeared at the station.
>
> Suspect did not match the description of who I needed to arrest at all... so I saved before I randomly arrested people. Had to issue APB's 3 times at different locations trying to figure out who was the common factor of all of them. At one point one of the sims was like "Uhh, isn't that the person over there?" where I arrested the sim, who turned out to be correct. But they did not go to the station with me. I restarted the game and went back to the same place, but now the sims kept leaving and would not let me speak to her.
>
> Therefore I went back to the station, re-issued an APB and looked around for her everywhere. At one point, at the library, there was a book that was hovering around with no ghost. I asked one of the people if they had seen the suspect and he was like "Oh I saw a person like that over there!" Upon saving and restarting, the hovering book then revealed the sim that I needed. I then went to arrest, took me to the station, and she wasn't there. I restarted the game again to try to get back to that point, and then it was a different sim. (I tried to arrest that one to see if the game had auto generated a different criminal, but it did not). Upon several more restarts I just issued another APB...
>
> That's when I just decided to see if I could make friends with the sim (my sim was a vamp so hard to meet them during the day. I tried to just invite them to the station before making friends but they wouldn't come since.. work is during the day). The next day, after a brief chat, she has now shown up.
>
> In conclusion to the Criminal not showing up at the station after making the arrest: Finish your day, find the sim outside of work, make friends with them, and then they will show up the next day.
>
> As for the APB description.. I tried not to use too many cheats, but I ended up saving before every arrest until one person didn't say it was unlawful. Haha...
>
>
>
>
> Hello @relevanceirre
> It is helpful to read the workarounds that you did to fix the issues. It is a great suggestion to make friends with the suspect outside of work hours! It will help other simmers who have the same issue.

Haha I was hoping it wouldn't be too much of a spam to post it all. I lowkey enjoy just sitting on Twitch and helping random Simmers out with their needs. I'm planning on going through all of the careers so I'll be lurking the forums a bit more.

"relevanceirre;c-15769427" wrote:
> @rosemow said:
> relevanceirre wrote: »
>
> > @rosemow said:
> > relevanceirre wrote: »
> >
> > Bump :'( Incorrect description, arrested, then isn't showing up at the station.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello.
> > I am sorry that you have had these issues.
> > Try having your sim leave work early, then when they go to work the next day, the suspect may then be there.
>
> > @Andiratyme said:
> > Supposedly if you arrest them and go on patrol or go back to the crime scene and come back the suspect should eventually appear. You might have to do that multiple times though.
>
>
>
> I actually just solved it like 10 minutes after this post. So I tried the going home, and going back to work the next day (didn't work), so what ended up working for me was I memorized the name of the suspect, made friends with them outside of the job, and the next day after we had knowledge and friendship (no introductory options anymore), they appeared at the station.
>
> Suspect did not match the description of who I needed to arrest at all... so I saved before I randomly arrested people. Had to issue APB's 3 times at different locations trying to figure out who was the common factor of all of them. At one point one of the sims was like "Uhh, isn't that the person over there?" where I arrested the sim, who turned out to be correct. But they did not go to the station with me. I restarted the game and went back to the same place, but now the sims kept leaving and would not let me speak to her.
>
> Therefore I went back to the station, re-issued an APB and looked around for her everywhere. At one point, at the library, there was a book that was hovering around with no ghost. I asked one of the people if they had seen the suspect and he was like "Oh I saw a person like that over there!" Upon saving and restarting, the hovering book then revealed the sim that I needed. I then went to arrest, took me to the station, and she wasn't there. I restarted the game again to try to get back to that point, and then it was a different sim. (I tried to arrest that one to see if the game had auto generated a different criminal, but it did not). Upon several more restarts I just issued another APB...
>
> That's when I just decided to see if I could make friends with the sim (my sim was a vamp so hard to meet them during the day. I tried to just invite them to the station before making friends but they wouldn't come since.. work is during the day). The next day, after a brief chat, she has now shown up.
>
> In conclusion to the Criminal not showing up at the station after making the arrest: Finish your day, find the sim outside of work, make friends with them, and then they will show up the next day.
>
> As for the APB description.. I tried not to use too many cheats, but I ended up saving before every arrest until one person didn't say it was unlawful. Haha...
>
>
>
>
> Hello @relevanceirre
> It is helpful to read the workarounds that you did to fix the issues. It is a great suggestion to make friends with the suspect outside of work hours! It will help other simmers who have the same issue.

Haha I was hoping it wouldn't be too much of a spam to post it all. I lowkey enjoy just sitting on Twitch and helping random Simmers out with their needs. I'm planning on going through all of the careers so I'll be lurking the forums a bit more.

It was helpful that you wrote each of the steps that you took :)