Disgusting Concepts

"Faraway_Son;d-977417" wrote:
Meat walls...who wants that in their house? Are the Sims turning into 'Silent Hill'? WooHoo in a dumpster...there's nothing quite like saying 'I Love You' unless you've woohooed in a dumpster. Dumpster diving is equally uncool...that's what rats do! Literally!
I'm so disappointed in this expansion...total let-down from start to finish. Bug growing and harvesting for fuel and food? Really??
It's disgusting!...and I'm a poor working class guy! But this is grim and certainly not fun!

Sorry you are unfamiliar with these things but I will tell you, dumpster-diving was a fine art back in Austin, since at least the 90s, and it didn't mean going into health-hazard garbage, it meant scoping out different KINDS of dumpsters, fashioning picking tools of a specialized nature, and finding some pretty incredible things in dumpsters that were generally clean.

Meat wall is about something that we are finally developing: tissue cloning of animal muscle from a few cells in such a way that meat can be lab-grown in a way that involves no animal cruelty beyond the taking of a few cells from a living and otherwise unharmed creature.
It's a way to make meat sustainable and cruelty-free, not something horror-movie-esque.

But if all that freaks you out, you will be completely unprepared for the use of insects as biofuel and food ingredients. Beetles, crickets, grubs. Sustainable protein for people who can wrap the head around the REAL "paleo" diet. I myself am not one, but there are cultures around the world for whom eating insects or grubs is an accepted nutritious practice.

So I do not fault you for not having heard of any of this, and having a bit of culture shock, but rest assured, they didn't make it up to be gross, these are real things that either have a long human cultural history or else are real things that are still in the developmental stages (lab-grown meat for instance). Culture shock is also a real phenomenon that none of us are immune to.

:) Now the dumpster woohoo? I have no real-life experience with it, nor any desire to try it in real life but one of the things I would hate to see go out of the Sims that has already suffered way too much attrition from the Upright Citizens' Brigade, is humor. So I consider Dumpster Woohoo a healthy dose of humor along with the belches and farts of the Parenthood Pack, which was actually what sold me on it.

XD

ETA: I actually loved the hint of classic Sims sense of humor with the whole "massage the meat" (or was it beat the meat?) option? Cracked me up!

Huh true about the fuel. I mean we run our cars on dead dinosaur bones and plankton. So when you run your cars and breath in, yep that is dead dinos you are smelling. If we really thought about everything we do day to day and put a blue light to everything, would be shocking to see where things come from and how dirty our world really is with the covid germs and all.

Um...the only thing I really didn't totally like was the woohoo in a dumpster. I mean, like why? That's just odd to me.

I'm really not a fan of the "insect farm" thing, I just find the whole idea of that gross to be honest. I checked mine and found a ton of dead crickets on the ground which was just gross in itself and the whole idea of "harvesting" them just irks me. I was gonna try and do the aspiration that involved the insect farm but I'm just gonna skip through as it's too gross for me. I really hope they don't give in to demand and make a farming pack because this kind of imagery/concept is really not what I want to see in my sims game

And the "meat wall", I get that its supposed to be fake meat but it just makes me feel all icky. eugh!

I'm enjoying playing Sims 4. That doesn't mean I like everything about it and that includes the meat wall. I just take what I want out of it and ignore the rest.

As someone who lives in the centre of a beautiful major festival city I see sadnesses, like homeless people all around and disgusting sights too. The latest is the huge amount of rubbish left by so called civilised people after peaceful protests in the local parks. The rubbish collectors shaped it into number of people killed by Coronavirus in the country.

One is very lucky to live in a quiet country place where everyone sticks to the rules.

"Scobre;c-17558450" wrote:
Huh true about the fuel. I mean we run our cars on dead dinosaur bones and plankton. So when you run your cars and breath in, yep that is dead dinos you are smelling. If we really thought about everything we do day to day and put a blue light to everything, would be shocking to see where things come from and how dirty our world really is with the covid germs and all.

I'm pretty sure the dead dinosaur thing is a falsehood. It's a common misconception according to many (google it).

I don’t have the pack yet but I’m already partially in love with it for the reasons you describe as disgusting ❤️❤️❤️

"Faraway_Son;c-17540887" wrote:
I absolutely don't expect agreement on this site. But I was never looking for agreement. I wanted a platform to voice my concerns...the Sims are changing...not for the better. This expansion is not fun...it's really horrible in many ways. Bug eating, bug harvesting...I know it's a game, but the concepts are grim.

These concepts you find gross/grim are actual real concepts humans are looking into in real life. There is a lot of research lately in the field of bugs and using them as an alternative more sustainable food source. Same with the meat wall, research and development for lab grown meat is becoming increasingly more popular these past few years. There’s a lot of themes this pack touches on that reflect the very real world and the very real worlds effort in fighting climate change, I’m honestly surprised this pack went this in depth with this topic, because a lot that’s being represented in this pack stems from real life initiatives.

I wish certain sims could dumpster dive while others wouldn’t... Like Nancy Landggrab would never dumpster dive, give us an option to buy bug fuel or any kind of clean fuel... Because my sims have a life and the bugs take a million years to make fuel.

I want the trash in other neighborhoods so they can have to go through what Evergreen Harbor does... Like the garbage you can’t clean unless you vote in certain city’s is cool. (It would not work in all towns but it could work in the city town and the base game worlds.) and they’d get a slight upgrade once everything is finished ie more colorful or modern.

I’d like ways to go green that aren’t gross as well, and cute and expensive off the grid appliances. I want chic ceiling lights. Have a group of green snobs, sims who want to go green but don’t do it the gross way the common people do. Have sims who just want to stay out of the environment stuff.

That said once the pack is patched and I mod my game again I’ll be able to enjoy the expansion pack. (This time it will take forever)

I did find out from the Gurus that the pack is based off of the Northwest, so neat it is so relevant to where I live. Homelessness is very common especially since the pandemic. There are a lot of industrial buildings in the Northwest too like there was a paper mill that shut down. Like Simpsons was based of the Northwest too. I wouldn't recommend swimming in some of our rivers because it is toxic water like the Simpsons:
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