Do we no longer get free updates?

"Chazzzy;c-16282814" wrote:
Do we need one? I thought those were for features we should’ve had at launch?

Firefighters
Burglars/Cops
Varying terrain altitude
Cars/driveways

Granted, I personally don't pay attention to the free updates. They kinda rub me the wrong way because the result is always that people say "wow it's FREE!!! We should be SO GRATEFUL," even in cases where the supplied content was stuff that should've come with the base game.

"DeservedCriticism;c-16282835" wrote:

"Chazzzy;c-16282814" wrote:
Do we need one? I thought those were for features we should’ve had at launch?

Firefighters
Burglars/Cops
Varying terrain altitude
Cars/driveways

Granted, I personally don't pay attention to the free updates. They kinda rub me the wrong way because the result is always that people say "wow it's FREE!!! We should be SO GRATEFUL," even in cases where the supplied content was stuff that should've come with the base game.

Well... if you buy the Base Game now it'll come with it.

"MasonGamer;c-16282945" wrote:

"DeservedCriticism;c-16282835" wrote:

"Chazzzy;c-16282814" wrote:
Do we need one? I thought those were for features we should’ve had at launch?

Firefighters
Burglars/Cops
Varying terrain altitude
Cars/driveways

Granted, I personally don't pay attention to the free updates. They kinda rub me the wrong way because the result is always that people say "wow it's FREE!!! We should be SO GRATEFUL," even in cases where the supplied content was stuff that should've come with the base game.

Well... if you buy the Base Game now it'll come with it.

And you wouldn’t think for a moment “oh, wow, this? For FREE? We should be SO GRATEFUL!”

We get free updates every month -- even if it's just for bug fixes that's still content.

If you're talking about new stuff, we got two additions to the holiday patch last year -- Diwali content in October and holiday content for those with warm weather Christmases in December.

Not all that interested in burglars unless they patch in burglar alarms; I'd be interested in fire fighters. I don't want terrain tools (though being able to build houses with variable foundation heights would be nice). And cars/driveways are of no real interest unless we could do car upgrades to help build Handiness skill. A small thing I'd like that I'd like is more TV channels to help build skills. We have the cooking channel but I'd like to see the Gardening channel return and maybe add a DIY channel to build Handiness.

Gratitude is earned. Are players supposed to be grateful that EA botched Sims 4 as an online game, and then delivered a massively unfinished, lacking, boring children’s game? Engagement content is literally built into their budget, it’s not like the developers are working off the clock on this stuff from the bottom of their hearts. Not saying that’s what I expect, but there’s no reason to be grateful for a business to be operating exactly how they planned to operate. That’s like me going to the grocery store and being so grateful that they sell groceries.

"Sk8rblaze;c-16282510" wrote:
I think it was more so The Sims 4 was rushed, and we had gotten these frequent updates because they were being worked on prior to release, and afterwards, too.

And, of course since it's EA, they created the illusion that all these patches were a good thing, when realistically, they were playing a huge game of catch up.

I'm pretty sure that was the case with pools, but I think they'd never considered adding ghosts till the community outcry over their absence. (Ghosts are still a bit problematic especially with the culling issues that finally got solved to a certain extent with the My Households and Other Households mechanism. I do still need MCCC in order to manage ghosts (plus aliens and vampires).

"stilljustme2;c-16283542" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16282510" wrote:
I think it was more so The Sims 4 was rushed, and we had gotten these frequent updates because they were being worked on prior to release, and afterwards, too.

And, of course since it's EA, they created the illusion that all these patches were a good thing, when realistically, they were playing a huge game of catch up.

I'm pretty sure that was the case with pools, but I think they'd never considered adding ghosts till the community outcry over their absence. (Ghosts are still a bit problematic especially with the culling issues that finally got solved to a certain extent with the My Households and Other Households mechanism. I do still need MCCC in order to manage ghosts (plus aliens and vampires).

I figured ghosts were originally planned as DLC. I remember the unintentional leak from before launch (Ryan and Graham’s play through) where they went in the gallery and showed an ad for camping, spooky “stuff”, and a party pack (the first and last realized as Outdoor Retreat, and Luxury Party Stuff). I don’t think the ad was in reference to the spooky stuff pack that released over a year later, and ghosts were the very first content addition so it wouldn’t be too far out. Pools were also mentioned in a survey, so I could also see that feature too as something that was in development as a paid feature but was later released for free in response to backlash. Just speculation on my end though.

"stilljustme2;c-16283526" wrote:
We get free updates every month -- even if it's just for bug fixes that's still content.

If you're talking about new stuff, we got two additions to the holiday patch last year -- Diwali content in October and holiday content for those with warm weather Christmases in December.

Not all that interested in burglars unless they patch in burglar alarms; I'd be interested in fire fighters. I don't want terrain tools (though being able to build houses with variable foundation heights would be nice). And cars/driveways are of no real interest unless we could do car upgrades to help build Handiness skill. A small thing I'd like that I'd like is more TV channels to help build skills. We have the cooking channel but I'd like to see the Gardening channel return and maybe add a DIY channel to build Handiness.

Bug fixes aren’t free updates haha ;) That would be something, if they’d make us pay for bug fixes.

I hope we'll get another big update soon, it's been a year since the last big feature... And there is still so much to add! Like story progression, cars, police and robbers, firefighters and edititing terrain and other smaller things like more stairs, ladders, functional elevators, more hair colours.

"Sk8rblaze;c-16284174" wrote:

"stilljustme2;c-16283526" wrote:
We get free updates every month -- even if it's just for bug fixes that's still content.

We were told, explicitly, "new ways to play every month".

Bug fixes are not playing the game in new ways. Bug fixes are playing the game the way it is supposed to work.

Your link says " I assume that includes Stuff Packs, Game Packs, Expansion Packs and free updates. " ...well, they've certainly delivered on the stuff pack part...