Does anyone use cowplants in mean ways? Evil sims, black widow, ect.

The thing about getting a sim killed by a cowplant is that they have to get eaten twice by the cowplant before they will die. I don't have much success in playing evil sims in Sims 4, they are all just too darn nice, even when they are evil.

"LaBlue0314;c-16744748" wrote:
The thing about getting a sim killed by a cowplant is that they have to get eaten twice by the cowplant before they will die. I don't have much success in playing evil sims in Sims 4, they are all just too darn nice, even when they are evil.

That's a shame. I was thinking watching a sim die that way would boost an evil sim in some way. The first time I had toddlers battle, they did a pretty good job, but the last time, they didn't get as mad as I had wanted.

I have done it where I have two plants and a walled in area for "guests" or even other sims that live in the household. They can live there or not as long as you lock they in with the plants or wall them in somehow. It might work better with clubs really but never used them for this process before. I plan on doing that next though. The sim has to eat twice of course.... I do think it might fail now and then because a sim is stubborn. You also have to take into account that a cowplant will die if it's produced the cake and hasn't been fed for 12 hours.

I currently have a save where I have a plan to use cow plants eventually. I play slow so it might be awhile. The main character is an evil scientist and he plans on using his test subjects (rich married townie guys he cloned and replaced in their households.. why? why not?) as cowplant food for awhile. I plan on having out a variety of aura objects during the testing process in the hopes of getting a good variety of mood drinks that are produced with the first digestion. If and when they die in the process it will be duly noted in the science logs.. which will in turn of course be a boon to the knowledge base of simology in general.. right? Of course right. There has to be a reason for all this doesn't there?

Also.... evil sims get a kick out of being around others that have bad or uncomfortable moods... even those that they love. It just tickles them. So your sim can always check on the progress of the victims now and then and get happy from that if they are uncomfortable, tense, embarrassed or angry.
Take into account that your evil sim also gets just as sad as others when anyone they like (even barely) or love dies. So if you want them in a dance on the grave kind of mood it's best to make enemies with the victims first. So if you are playing a black widow be prepared for her 3 day sadness after. I think if you tank the relationship you can avoid it but not sure.. it's been awhile.

Interesting topic. I haven't played a character like that, but I've placed two cowplants at Von Haunt Estate to add a sense of danger. I think the key is to have several cowplants (perhaps in a well decorated environment, so the eaten by cowplant buff gets overriden?).

If sims are enemies they can get happy when their enemy dies? I don't remember for sure, but at least they get an option to laugh at their tombstone.

The problem with TS4 cowplants is not only does a sim have to eat the cake a second time, but they also won't do it on their own (the second time.) So you have to direct sims to eat it again, which you can't do with non-household sims. To be honest, these cowplants suck.

No. As others have stated, the cowplants are much less effective in this iteration. An AI controlled sim rarely goes for the cake a second time, or at least before the moodlet wears off. When I feel the need to end a sim I use alternate methods such as Burst of Anger from Vampires or Marked for Death from Jungle Adventure.

"OEII1001;c-16746782" wrote:
No. As others have stated, the cowplants are much less effective in this iteration. An AI controlled sim rarely goes for the cake a second time, or at least before the moodlet wears off. When I feel the need to end a sim I use alternate methods such as Burst of Anger from Vampires or Marked for Death from Jungle Adventure.

You say they rarely go for the cake a second time. Are you sure it's even possible? I remember hearing that the code blocks sims from taking the cake autonomously if they have the moodlet.

"IceyJ;c-16746789" wrote:

"OEII1001;c-16746782" wrote:
No. As others have stated, the cowplants are much less effective in this iteration. An AI controlled sim rarely goes for the cake a second time, or at least before the moodlet wears off. When I feel the need to end a sim I use alternate methods such as Burst of Anger from Vampires or Marked for Death from Jungle Adventure.

You say they rarely go for the cake. Are you sure it happens at all? I remember hearing that the code blocks sims from taking the cake autonomously if they have the moodlet.

Yes, I typed 'rarely'. Yes, I have seen it happen. Yes, it is exceedingly rare. Rare, as in I have seen it exactly twice in the 4500 hours spent in-game. Let me know if you have any other concerns.

"IceyJ;c-16746789" wrote:

"OEII1001;c-16746782" wrote:
No. As others have stated, the cowplants are much less effective in this iteration. An AI controlled sim rarely goes for the cake a second time, or at least before the moodlet wears off. When I feel the need to end a sim I use alternate methods such as Burst of Anger from Vampires or Marked for Death from Jungle Adventure.

You say they rarely go for the cake. Are you sure it happens at all? I remember hearing that the code blocks sims from taking the cake autonomously if they have the moodlet.

Yes, they do take it on their own at least once. I can't tell you the number of times I have seen sims decide that it was a good idea to try to take that cake, and eat it, only to be swallowed up by the cowplant. Serves them right for that stunt. I don't think I have ever seen a sim do it twice, I think that might be where the coding is at.

@OEII1001 I'm happy to know it's possible, at least. So the sim who took the cake died? I'm assuming he/she still had the moodlet at the time.