Don't Complain if You Buy The Pack

"CelSims;c-17781357" wrote:

But I love including a washing machine and dryer in my builds. It makes the house look nice! I just don't want laundry! So they should get rid of laundry. They should make it a lot trait that people who want laundry have to slot on every house! Just in case I visit one of these houses though, their sims should never do the laundry autonomously. I don't want any of that in my game!

lmao, perfect...just perfect!

"RavenSpit;c-17781271" wrote:

"Daephene;c-17781002" wrote:
My ideal game would have a settings screen you could bring up for each world that let you select some basic rules for NPCs in that world.

I would love that too, not so much for occults in my case but for other NPC settings, more control over NPCs spawning (and their clothing) would generally be a good idea I think, for both realistic and occult players.

Oh it definitely should also be used for celebrities and stray pets. I know many people would also want one for housed sims from other worlds.

Yeah the thing is it is the realism that is turning me off with the pack rather than the fantasy stuff. So even though it is an occult pack, it has a lot of realism in it too. I think we all just like different things. No I don't want stuff nerfed to cater to me whether it is real or not because I know that the Sims is more than just one community member. It is worldwide and not all games can say that.

It doesn't sound as if the pack will be too intrusive - if every household were now going to be plagued with ghosts, that would be highly annoying. However, it sounds like you mostly have to trigger them with the haunted house or paranormal career, and they're already in the game if a household member dies and you don't disable the tombstone. (And isn't there also a 'haunted' lot trait?) In any case, lots of ways to get your ghosts if you want them, but hopefully not running amok when you don't.

I'm really not all that picky - it doesn't bother me if some random Sim takes off on a broom or mermaids go swimming by the house (as they did last night). It's when they actively interfere with the family I'm playing that it gets annoying (which is why I keep looking at all the cool stuff in the Vampire pack and giving it a hard pass). Aliens came in an expansion with a lot of other stuff, and they do interfere with game play when they abduct my Sims.

"Genkider;c-17781011" wrote:


Sorry but this doesn't make sense to me, if you are truly the majority as you say then why would EA bother releasing occult packs to begin with? These packs clearly sell well otherwise they wouldn't have made 3 already.
I don't know why this is a problem all of a sudden, I mean The Sims series have been full of occult content since the first game even.

Because I'm the one to buy any occult pack on the release date? ;) I love all the supernatural stuff in The Sims, that's why I'm among the players who suffer from intrusive gameplay features most of all. I can't just "switch off" a pack because I enjoy it generally. But some features are designed as everyone would enjoy this type of gameplay. I wish the devs won't make these mistakes in the future, the Paranormal Stuff pack gives me such hope, since all the features are optional and have difficulty settings.

"CelSims;c-17780726" wrote:
I don't see any reason to try to shut some one up by claiming they are a minority, yikes. So now it boils down to, if u want the occult play you are a minority and should be the one inconvenienced if they introduce toggles. LOL

Sorry, but I'm not the one trying to shut anyone. It's the topic's name saying: " don't complain if..."
I'm just trying to say that we won't shut up and there in no reason we should :wink:

"CelSims;c-17781357" wrote:

"Loanet;c-17781335" wrote:
If there's one thing I hate, it's laundry. I hate the way things get dirty so fast, that then my Sims leave it lying around and get Uncomfortable and just seem incapable of doing laundry in any way even slightly efficiently. However there's something I've noticed - if you don't like doing laundry, don't buy laundry machines. I didn't go and ask for Laundry to be nerfed for 'realism' players, but it's the realism players who demanded something tedious like Laundry and then said it was too hard to be part of the game.

But I love including a washing machine and dryer in my builds. It makes the house look nice! I just don't want laundry! So they should get rid of laundry. They should make it a lot trait that people who want laundry have to slot on every house! Just in case I visit one of these houses though, their sims should never do the laundry autonomously. I don't want any of that in my game!

As hard as I am on Maxis in my elderly years, I think sometimes they really can't please this generation of players. It's why we had modders to remove any bhavs we didn't want on any object and make it simply decorative. They actually can't win with this generation of players who don't want 'triggered' play AKA machines on the lot which would trigger the gameplay and or toggles. I actually have some sympathy for Maxis today which I haven't had since TS4's release. If I don't want my Sims abducted in TS2 I don't buy them a more expensive telescope (trigger play). Trigger play is more sandbox because it allows the player to decide which household will run up against a situation and or not. But with the idea people just want stuff in a house because it looks nice or more realistic should mean they have to go out and find a modder to remove the bhavs in my opinion. Nerfing features after someone pays for them so someone can decorate and then demand a removal is rather selfish in my opinion. If someone doesn't want a feature in a pack then they have the freedom not to buy it. Extractions are done every day whether Maxis knows it or not. Why should anyone have to buy a particular home to do laundry. It's triggered by the machines, don't want the gameplay remove the machines, or mod out the functions and or download a decorative set.

"Brinn;c-17784422" wrote:

"CelSims;c-17780726" wrote:
I don't see any reason to try to shut some one up by claiming they are a minority, yikes. So now it boils down to, if u want the occult play you are a minority and should be the one inconvenienced if they introduce toggles. LOL

Sorry, but I'm not the one trying to shut anyone. It's the topic's name saying: " don't complain if..."
I'm just trying to say that we won't shut up and there in no reason we should :wink:

If you purchase this pack and then make a lot A Haunted House Residential... then you did it to yourself. Whatever "it" is. You can blame no one but yourself if lights flicker in the house, specters appear and the rest of the weirdness.

And No, I can't stop you from complaining about it, but I can point out that it's rather petulant when you simply have to set the house to normal residential. That's your toggle. Use it. Don't inflict your shortsightedness on the rest of us - especially don't ask for it to be tuned down when it's easier for you to just turn it off.

"Brinn;c-17784422" wrote:

"CelSims;c-17780726" wrote:
I don't see any reason to try to shut some one up by claiming they are a minority, yikes. So now it boils down to, if u want the occult play you are a minority and should be the one inconvenienced if they introduce toggles. LOL

Sorry, but I'm not the one trying to shut anyone. It's the topic's name saying: " don't complain if..."
I'm just trying to say that we won't shut up and there in no reason we should :wink:

It’s not about complaining in general it’s about buying pack with specific themes, like vampires, witches, or paranormal activity and then complaining about vampires, witches, and paranormal activity to the point where the devs come in through the next patch and quietly extinguish vampires, witches, and paranormal activity. I paid $20.00 for the vampire pack and was thoroughly enjoying it until the forums and Twitter filled with complaints and within a couple of patches I now haven’t had a vampire break in for ages. So, I paid $20.00 for this pack specifically for this gameplay that is now all but gone, I feel that it should either be restored or I should get $10.00 back since half of the pack is now gone. It went from being a pack I absolutely loved to being a pack I mostly ignore because honestly it’s a glorified stuff pack at this point. The vampires don’t act like vampires they’re just sims with pointy teeth and eyes that glow.

I haven’t had an alien abduction in literally years now. Players were given a toggle in the settings to turn off the effects of temperature on their sims, but still complained so much still that weather related deaths basically got tuned out of the game entirely. Same with Murphy beds, you could just not buy the bed, or upgrade it to avoid the death, but no. People bought it, refused to upgrade it and poof! That was gone. Vending machine deaths came pre-nerfed in that you have to force the heck out of that situation to make it happen at all, which basically guarantees it never will.

Then the best part? The part that causes me to break into hysterical laughter? Many of these same people are the ones in threads stating this game is shallow, or lacks “meaningful” gameplay. What it lacks is any real element of surprise. It’s a life simulation game, and people want “realism”, tell me, how realistic is it to move through life and never ever have something happen that you didn’t expect?

"Brinn;c-17784393" wrote:
Because I'm the one to buy any occult pack on the release date? ;) I love all the supernatural stuff in The Sims, that's why I'm among the players who suffer from intrusive gameplay features most of all. I can't just "switch off" a pack because I enjoy it generally. But some features are designed as everyone would enjoy this type of gameplay. I wish the devs won't make these mistakes in the future, the Paranormal Stuff pack gives me such hope, since all the features are optional and have difficulty settings.

You seem incredibly hypocritical tbh. "I love supernatural content but I want it to never be in game unless I activate it."