EA silence on family play and family play fans

"luthienrising;12990492" wrote:
1. I can't imagine how EA/Maxis could possibly not understand by now that there are people who want toddlers and generational play. Seriously. The requests have been met with a "we hear you", and have been deafening.
2. They have to be silent, until they're at the point of having something ready to release with a firm date. They've made that absolutely clear. "We hear you" is all they can say. They aren't going to suddenly persuade their lawyers that they can reveal stuff that's in development earlier than before just because fans started yet another topic asking for the same things, on yet another day. They could have half the dev team on generational play right now but they can't tell us.
3. That would be nice, though, if they did. It's just not going to happen, no matter how much EA/Maxis wants it to and no matter how many times we ask.

Maybe instead we could post pics of cute toddler clothes we'd like to see. At least it would feel like it could be productive. Wishing for info won't be.

(Personally, I'm hoping to get knitting and sewing with toddlers, so our Sim moms and grandmas can make cute stuff!)

Feel free to post ideas if that's how you feel-it's not going to harm anything! :-) even some favourite past screenshots with a little background story, I'd love to hear it and I'm sure others would too! :-)

Personally I just wish family players would be acknowledged properly-that's my issue. In the family tree thread they posted that a sim guru told them to write a family tree down to keep track. That's not fixing anything, I want the game to acknowledge family structure and familial relationships like in previous games-be it step family or aunties/uncles etc

"GoldenBuffy;12990504" wrote:
"We hear you." They said that before when the Sims 4 was in development. And seeing and playing the game, and what is missing (open world, CASt, vehicles, etc.) makes me think they were not listening, and I wonder if they truly are listening now. I know we all have our own ideas of what should be included in a base game, but it's 2014, many games now launch with basics such as weather. Why are we still not getting that? And the toddlers, teens who look like adults, and of course there's more. It just makes me sad. I really do feel let down by EA with the Sims. I don't think it's fair that we have to continue to shell out money for things that could easily be included in a base game that is $60.

Even after it's launch and I watched Youtubers and their "Let's Plays", and I read over here on the forum, I was still on the fence, I wanted to play the game for myself. I finally got it last Sunday, and I'm already tired of playing it. :( I did not want that to happen. Right now I don't feel valued as a long time player - been playing since 2000 - and then ignoring us is like a slap in the face.

Please, EA and Maxis, listen to us. Make this game awesome! We know you can do it! Take what was so great with the previous Sims and improve upon their greatness, that's the game we want!

That's exactly how I feel. Let's make sure we are heard properly by continuing to campaign for the areas that are missing that mean the most to us. It's the only way we will get change! :-)

They are listening. Otherwise SimGuruRachel wouldn't have posted that excuse about leaving stuff out to focus on the foundation. They had originally stated that *all* life stages would be in the game, so they were working on them before. I understand the frustration of them being mum, but they always go mum during the development stage. I doubt EA could have ever made it this far as a company if they would miss something as obvious as there are a ton of simmers who want toddler-inclusive family-oriented play.

I'm not so nervous about toddlers not returning. I'm more anxious about the baby stage that already exists. I hope that they update bassinet monsters to make them more like TS2 babies but improve upon them so that sims don't drop them on the floor every other second. Unfortunately, I don't think the babies will improve, so let's hope the toddlers will make up for the failed TS1 in 2014 baby life stage.

the silence probably means they won't be adding anything and don't want to draw attention to it.

"nanashi-sims;12990533" wrote:
They are listening. Otherwise SimGuruRachel wouldn't have posted that excuse about leaving stuff out to focus on the foundation. They had originally stated that *all* life stages would be in the game, so they were working on them before. I understand the frustration of them being mum, but they always go mum during the development stage. I doubt EA could have ever made it this far as a company if they would miss something as obvious as there are a ton of simmers who want toddler-inclusive family-oriented play.

I'm not so nervous about toddlers not returning. I'm more anxious about the baby stage that already exists. I hope that they update bassinet monsters to make them more like TS2 babies but improve upon them so that sims don't drop them on the floor every other second. Unfortunately, I don't think the babies will improve, so let's hope the toddlers will make up for the failed TS1 in 2014 baby life stage.

See, I get that they can't talk about it or they will have to be killed. LOL But at little heads up would be nice. Let us know besides the "We hear you." Okay, you hear us. You've said it before. Their past actions have shown us that they have not heard us. Look, don't get me wrong, I enjoy the Sims 3. The biggest selling point for me was the open world and CASt. I remember when they announced the game I literally was jumping out of my seat. I couldn't wait to get the game, silly me thought that Sims 3 would be a continuation of the Sims 2 only better, and an open world.

They said back then they heard us. So again, I figured Sims 4 would give us a truly wonderful base game, the sims would return to being their awesome selves with their many layers, made more awesome with their new more advance emotions. And the game itself, with current technology would also include a smoother open world, better CASt, and more blended graphics, etc. But again, I have been let down. So can you understand why I'm giving EA the side eye right now? :( If they had listened to us from the start they never would have run out of valuable time work on the game, instead they wanted to make it an online game. Remember TSO? We did not want that to happen again. Yet they ignored us. So then they had to rush to meet their deadline and we got a bootleg version of a base game.

YES! I would LOVE an improvement on the babies. Why did they have to turn them back into objects? That was a huge peeve of mine with S1, that and the fact that they turned into kids which never grew up. I love how in S2 the babies are so cute. I utilize that swing and baby mate. LOL And I love how in S3 your sim can sit and watch T.V. while holding the baby. In S4, I figured with multitasking they'd be able to hold, eat, talk on the phone, etc. with their babies. And no longer placing them on the ground! Could you just picture them walking around the hood in a stroller? So cute, if done right! And more interactions between older kids and babies. Like they should be able to feed their siblings too, and maybe play with a rattle with them or something. I miss bathing babies (and toddlers) too!

I think I'll go post toddler clothes in the Ideas & Feedback section - we keep being told that particular staff keep an eye on that forum area. And it beats working on a Sunday morning :)

"luthienrising;12990630" wrote:
I think I'll go post toddler clothes in the Ideas & Feedback section - we keep being told that particular staff keep an eye on that forum area. And it beats working on a Sunday morning :)

Please do post :))

And I love the idea of sims knitting. If they can programme sims to skate then they can get them to knit :)

"GoldenBuffy;12990557" wrote:

"nanashi-sims;12990533" wrote:
They are listening. Otherwise SimGuruRachel wouldn't have posted that excuse about leaving stuff out to focus on the foundation. They had originally stated that *all* life stages would be in the game, so they were working on them before. I understand the frustration of them being mum, but they always go mum during the development stage. I doubt EA could have ever made it this far as a company if they would miss something as obvious as there are a ton of simmers who want toddler-inclusive family-oriented play.

I'm not so nervous about toddlers not returning. I'm more anxious about the baby stage that already exists. I hope that they update bassinet monsters to make them more like TS2 babies but improve upon them so that sims don't drop them on the floor every other second. Unfortunately, I don't think the babies will improve, so let's hope the toddlers will make up for the failed TS1 in 2014 baby life stage.

See, I get that they can't talk about it or they will have to be killed. LOL But at little heads up would be nice. Let us know besides the "We hear you." Okay, you hear us. You've said it before. Their past actions have shown us that they have not heard us. Look, don't get me wrong, I enjoy the Sims 3. The biggest selling point for me was the open world and CASt. I remember when they announced the game I literally was jumping out of my seat. I couldn't wait to get the game, silly me thought that Sims 3 would be a continuation of the Sims 2 only better, and an open world.

They said back then they heard us. So again, I figured Sims 4 would give us a truly wonderful base game, the sims would return to being their awesome selves with their many layers, made more awesome with their new more advance emotions. And the game itself, with current technology would also include a smoother open world, better CASt, and more blended graphics, etc. But again, I have been let down. So can you understand why I'm giving EA the side eye right now? :( If they had listened to us from the start they never would have run out of valuable time work on the game, instead they wanted to make it an online game. Remember TSO? We did not want that to happen again. Yet they ignored us. So then they had to rush to meet their deadline and we got a bootleg version of a base game.

YES! I would LOVE an improvement on the babies. Why did they have to turn them back into objects? That was a huge peeve of mine with S1, that and the fact that they turned into kids which never grew up. I love how in S2 the babies are so cute. I utilize that swing and baby mate. LOL And I love how in S3 your sim can sit and watch T.V. while holding the baby. In S4, I figured with multitasking they'd be able to hold, eat, talk on the phone, etc. with their babies. And no longer placing them on the ground! Could you just picture them walking around the hood in a stroller? So cute, if done right! And more interactions between older kids and babies. Like they should be able to feed their siblings too, and maybe play with a rattle with them or something. I miss bathing babies (and toddlers) too!

Yes I totally agree. I *thought* they were listening to the community while in development-we all know how much effort people in this community put into giving them ideas-especially with dlc. They should have used that to understand the fan base.
@nanashi-sims I felt the same way too initially, but the further we go down the line the more nervous I get because we've heard about all these other patches to bring us to a finished base game, but still have no more info on family stuff. I also don't happen to believe the stable base thing-since having 4 I've had more bugs than I had in 3, and even had to reinstall after the pool patch because I got jumbled command code on pool tasks instead of the correct words.

I totally agree with you on the baby stage too-multitasking has the opportunity to be fantastic with raising children from baby, toddler, child and teen and sadly so far it's missing out on how amazing it could be.

"GoldenBuffy;12990504" wrote:
"We hear you." They said that before when the Sims 4 was in development. And seeing and playing the game, and what is missing (open world, CASt, vehicles, etc.) makes me think they were not listening, and I wonder if they truly are listening now. I know we all have our own ideas of what should be included in a base game, but it's 2014, many games now launch with basics such as weather. Why are we still not getting that? And the toddlers, teens who look like adults, and of course there's more. It just makes me sad. I really do feel let down by EA with the Sims. I don't think it's fair that we have to continue to shell out money for things that could easily be included in a base game that is $60.

Even after it's launch and I watched Youtubers and their "Let's Plays", and I read over here on the forum, I was still on the fence, I wanted to play the game for myself. I finally got it last Sunday, and I'm already tired of playing it. :( I did not want that to happen. Right now I don't feel valued as a long time player - been playing since 2000 - and then ignoring us is like a slap in the face.

Please, EA and Maxis, listen to us. Make this game awesome! We know you can do it! Take what was so great with the previous Sims and improve upon their greatness, that's the game we want!

EA listens to money, therefore consumers feedback really do not amount much to anything when they voice their constructive criticism but still keep buying. Thus further confirming the CEO of EA that no change needed in the way they do business because it works. Anyone who looks back at TS3 can see there was also some ignoring going on and what EA wanted to do, not so much what the consumers wanted. And I mean simple, basic, understandable things like even out the content for the lacking age groups. I don't care what past games had in terms of content, don't you think its been long overdue to step up your game for a so-called best selling PC game? No? Well no matter cause I'm a lost customer anyway, lol. Continue to wow the players you now target. Maybe they will provide the same profit you are looking for based on TS2/TS3 success and so much more.

You all hope and hope but to me it's all false hope. Since when did EA prove they changed? And if it is true that the SG's say EA has nothing to do with their project of TS then it is whichever SG's in charge who made the decisions to do what they wanted and IGNORE the consumers let alone Sims tradition/progression/continuity. Some of you will still be sure to give The Sims Team a paycheck for a product you are not that much satisfied with just because you think TS4 has so much potential yet fail to be proven first before blindly buying based off of hope alone.

Given everything TS3 brought, anything missing to me was forgivable but the poor coding/programming is unacceptable, inexcusable. How long it takes to fix something and sometimes not have some issues ever addressed was quite annoying. So no way would I move on for the same old, same old. I am not interested in TS4 anyway so have no issues whatsoever stopping with TS3.

Other Sims game were so awesome when it came to making families and watching them grow. I can still remember the longest family I ever played. I love to build and I stopped myself from constantly moving my Sims into a different house. I had the same house for the different generations, and pictures of the members in the house. The Sims 4 is really terrible when it comes to that. It doesn't feel like generation to generation. It's like I'm just repeating the same old boring thing. Not many jobs or things to do so they end up doing the exact same thing....everytime


Edit: And they don't even know who the plum they even are to each other!