Evil Butler?

My sims first butler was not great, but now my sims have an amazing butler. So I think it's good to fire them until you get a good one. The butler my sims have now does everything I want her to do--she cleans right as things get dirty (clears plates from tables right when my sims finish eating) fixes things, and helps out with the toddlers only when the parents are busy. She even showed up to my sim's first piano recital like a proud grandmother. When she dies :(, they'll probably have another bad butler.

I gave up on butlers, because mine where always kleptomanic, which is the last thing I want to have in my household. I rather hired a maid, nanny and gardener or create an extra sim for the meals and cleaning.

IF I use a butler I always cheat their traits... Squeamish, Neat and Unflirty seems perfect...

I'm currently running a butler at the Goth mansion and the only treat she has is Neat. It works pretty well.

I've had enough Butlers in my game in the past to know that some are really great at their jobs and are dedicated to it, whereas others are just earning that paycheck, while enjoying living and working in such a posh Manor, you know? I had Erik fire the evil one and got a much better person in her place. Takashi Miura was an Elderly Sim, which troubled me. I play on Long and if he's old, now, he won't be 'long' for this world. So, since I use MCCC and have learned you can at least change the age and clothing of a Sim that isn't active, I decided to change his age down to Adult. Hopefully, he'll be around for Sim days to come. My family just learned that Grandpa Golden had passed away. This affects all of the Cantrells, since the oldest three boys married the Golden triplets, so they share in-laws. Erik had the option to grieve with Takashi and I was stunned and elated at his response. It was quite touching and so rare in this cultural climate. "I'm sorry for your loss, Erik. I will keep you and your family in prayer." That's when I decided to age him down. He's a Keeper. :)

"GalacticGal;c-17778375" wrote:
I've had enough Butlers in my game in the past to know that some are really great at their jobs and are dedicated to it, whereas others are just earning that paycheck, while enjoying living and working in such a posh Manor, you know? I had Erik fire the evil one and got a much better person in her place. Takashi Miura was an Elderly Sim, which troubled me. I play on Long and if he's old, now, he won't be 'long' for this world. So, since I use MCCC and have learned you can at least change the age and clothing of a Sim that isn't active, I decided to change his age down to Adult. Hopefully, he'll be around for Sim days to come. My family just learned that Grandpa Golden had passed away. This affects all of the Cantrells, since the oldest three boys married the Golden triplets, so they share in-laws. Erik had the option to grieve with Takashi and I was stunned and elated at his response. It was quite touching and so rare in this cultural climate. "I'm sorry for your loss, Erik. I will keep you and your family in prayer." That's when I decided to age him down. He's a Keeper. :)

I've also noticed I only get good results by praising a butler and that they don't do a better job after a reprimand. Especially back when butlers had a real tendency to just stand by the bar and drink I always hoped reprimand would be helpful but it never was. I switched tactics and basically walked over and praised the butler for a great job(at drinking, I guess) and suddenly he started cleaning and making sure food was made.

"Kerrigan;c-17778390" wrote:

"GalacticGal;c-17778375" wrote:
I've had enough Butlers in my game in the past to know that some are really great at their jobs and are dedicated to it, whereas others are just earning that paycheck, while enjoying living and working in such a posh Manor, you know? I had Erik fire the evil one and got a much better person in her place. Takashi Miura was an Elderly Sim, which troubled me. I play on Long and if he's old, now, he won't be 'long' for this world. So, since I use MCCC and have learned you can at least change the age and clothing of a Sim that isn't active, I decided to change his age down to Adult. Hopefully, he'll be around for Sim days to come. My family just learned that Grandpa Golden had passed away. This affects all of the Cantrells, since the oldest three boys married the Golden triplets, so they share in-laws. Erik had the option to grieve with Takashi and I was stunned and elated at his response. It was quite touching and so rare in this cultural climate. "I'm sorry for your loss, Erik. I will keep you and your family in prayer." That's when I decided to age him down. He's a Keeper. :)

I've also noticed I only get good results by praising a butler and that they don't do a better job after a reprimand. Especially back when butlers had a real tendency to just stand by the bar and drink I always hoped reprimand would be helpful but it never was. I switched tactics and basically walked over and praised the butler for a great job(at drinking, I guess) and suddenly he started cleaning and making sure food was made.

There is an old (probably ancient) axiom. "You catch more flies with honey that you do vinegar." I've tried your theory out on the Nanny I had. I would have my star tip her §100.00 before they left her in charge, only to find her suddenly outside of the gate when they returned, and upon getting back inside greet the children the way she did when she first got there. And worse, still, the children were returned from Daycare! I am glad it worked for the Butler in your game. I've used the same method, but I couldn't have an evil butler left with the children. Just seemed so wrong.

I have never had a butler! I forgot it was even an option!. OMG I need to do this.

I always use this saying and approach in dog training. I get really annoyed when people think they can train obedience by shouting and physical "corrections". For a start, they don't even understand English, for heaven's sake be reasonable!

But yeah, it's psychology 101 at the end of the day. Or just plain common sense. It even works its way into biblical text with "do unto others....". :)


I'm with you on using positive reinforcement for training dogs. Why use force on dogs when praise works so well?

I've only had one butler, and I got really lucky with my first one! I changed his hair to a less casual style, but he was perfect otherwise. Here he is with two other staff members.

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