So, I finally got this pack yesterday, and because I will not focus a lot on Acting, but more explore how this pack will affect my sims who work with other than film, I thought I'd gather it all in one thread. It will also make it easier for me to keep track on Q&A, instead of spreading them over an endless number of threads.I plan to give some of my sims fame through other jobs than acting, most of them will have just 1-2 stars, but a few will have 4. I don't think any of them deserve global fame status. I'm playing rotationally, this is what kept me from buying this pack, and I'm curious to find out whether fame will fade faster than it's built. Fame and career is not a main focus on my gaming, so I don't intend to spend all my in game time on securing those fame stars. I made some notes in order to know who should get my attention, and how many stars they should all get. I like how I think this pack will work - that those already doing relevant stuff will slowly build fame through what they already do. I think my younger sims will gain from this, while the older are too late to the party.The careers I will need to work hardest ion are musicians/singers, painting artists, writers. All of these seems to gain the first fame star quite easily from performing or publishing.In addition, some locally famous sims have not so obvious careers. One is a food critic who I want to have several stas, but I don't want her to sell paintings or perform singing. Maybe she should write a few books to get her fame journey started. Another is an art critics, but I guess he could sell a few paintings, it seems logical. Politicians need some fame too, at least those on the Council - assuming they will gain fame from giving speeches in public, not tested yet. Then I have a TV-host, who isn't really wanting to become an actress, but I guess she could do some commercials to get a start...

Enjoying the pack. Some more observations...I'm surprised that so many of the hight fame Actors barely can sing! In RL educated actors would also have learned to sing, at least a few skill levels. My sim challenged a 4 or 4 star celebrity to sing karaoke, and it looked really weird as my hardly singing ever sim sounded good, while this glooming superstar sounded like a cat (but acted as if it was okay). She left the building shortly after :)My 3 star sim got a call from a friend, suggesting they should check out a talent show at a bar. Huh? Are they not supposed to be beyond attending talent shows at a bar? Well, the sim calling is also fame level 3 or 4, so maybe it was meant as a bad joke? :) I don't think famous sims should suggest such activities :)Also, it feels a bit wrong when say a 2 star actor screams over seeing a 4 stars actor. I guess any sim will behave rather hysterical when confronted a sim with higher fame level, but in RL this hardly happens. They are colleagues, and it feels a bit off acting like that just because your colleague is a little more experienced.Finally, going to a night club to dance is hopeless if you got some fame stars. The DJ will stop playing. So,. you could just as well head for the bar, but then you would not need to go to the disco at all, would you? It was fun the first time, and I know there is *one* club where fans won't get in, but if the DJ has no fame stars, music will stop anyway, right? I did not check that yet.

Wow, you've really created a whole little other life series here. Pretty impressive.

"Simmerville;c-16903706" wrote:Q: Is there a time limit to how quickly we can build fame?I noticed there is no increased fame from doing more, once my sim has reached 1 star. Publishing 1 book gave a big impact before reaching the first star, but no impact after. I guess I must give this writer some time? How long?I only have one star with whom I worked with to gain his fame. He's a singer. I also use Sacrificial's Road to Fame_Professional Singing Career to help augment this career. It took quite some time to earn his second star. The first one took about twenty minutes in real time, a few hours in Sim time. What I've gleaned from other players, is that most actions need to be taken around other Sims. Writing a book is a solitary business, on the whole. I would suggest you see what actions your writer could do that has the Fame + sign next to it. You need to do these enough so that that one star doesn't fade away, and believe me without maintenance, it will fade. I can't say for just how long it will take to reach level two. Like I said, my Global Superstar is a singer. I would have him live stream his concerts, or anytime he was out and about doing those Fame+ interactions. I also had him bring those 7 Sims along when he traveled.I just bumped his sister up to B-Lister. She's an Archeologist's of some note, and was already receiving items in the mail for her to authenticate. Once I remove my singer from her household, I will explore how to keep her stars the legitimate way.As for stars screaming over stars at a higher level, did you not hear Meryl Streep go gaga over giving Sir Paul McCartney his lifetime achievement award? She was positively giddy.

"Simmerville;c-16909642" wrote:"GalacticGal;c-16908132" wrote:I only have one star with whom I worked with to gain his fame. He's a singer. I also use Sacrificial's Road to Fame_Professional Singing Career to help augment this career. It took quite some time to earn his second star. The first one took about twenty minutes in real time, a few hours in Sim time. What I've gleaned from other players, is that most actions need to be taken around other Sims. Writing a book is a solitary business, on the whole. I would suggest you see what actions your writer could do that has the Fame + sign next to it. You need to do these enough so that that one star doesn't fade away, and believe me without maintenance, it will fade. I can't say for just how long it will take to reach level two. Like I said, my Global Superstar is a singer. I would have him live stream his concerts, or anytime he was out and about doing those Fame+ interactions.Hi! I think I figured that it will take much longer / more points to gain fame, the higher level the sim is at. I wish we could see the points somehow, it would be useful knowing whether the sim is very close to lose one star.Ah, live streaming a concert sounds cool, I gotta try that sometime!"GalacticGal;c-16908132" wrote:I also had him bring those 7 Sims along when he traveled.Hm, what is this about? Is it a feature, or did you mean bringing the full household?"GalacticGal;c-16908132" wrote:As for stars screaming over stars at a higher level, did you not hear Meryl Streep go gaga over giving Sir Paul McCartney his lifetime achievement award? She was positively giddy.Hehe, no, I didn't watch Meryl Streep. I never watch award shows, If I did, I guess I would have been tons more hyped about this GF pack :) I don't even think I will bother to send my only acting sim to check out the award event, that I read about... But yes, I understand a global actress might scream like a fan when meeting a global musician. They work in so different fields, and I guess that is often the case in the game, also. Non-colleagues, after all. This award show was several years ago. I watched it primarily because I'm a huge fan of Paul McCartney (since I was 9, so very many moons ago) and he was getting the Lifetime Achievement Award. I haven't watched an award show in years. Anymore they're just too full of political rants and I'm just not wanting that when I watch that type of show.To answer your question about bringing along 7 Sims. Whenever you have your Sim travel, after you select the location you get that dropdown menu of all the Sims your Sim knows. From there you pick the 7 you want to have accompany them. I don't always keep to his household.I do agree with you that the more fame your Sims achieves the harder it becomes. I just kept my eye on the green bar as it slowly filled up. At one point I thought the RTF mod was interfering as that green bar was pressed up against the star. Turns out my Sim was just on the cusp, so to speak. The next Fame + interaction shoved him over that edge into the next star!

The thing that annoys me with the drone is that it always films from behind the subject and the inner cinematographer in me hates that. In RL, I wouldn't want to watch a video of someone's backside while they're jamming out on the guitar so I'm not a fan of that in the Sims. What I've had one of my influencers do is record himself watching another sim performing but I wouldn't be able to have a good recording of him playing the guitar. I also wish there was a way to have the drone film from a stationary position and control it's movements like you would with a real drone.

Get Famous - Misc Questions and Observations

Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
Enjoying the pack. Some more observations...

I'm surprised that so many of the hight fame Actors barely can sing! In RL educated actors would also have learned to sing, at least a few skill levels. My sim challenged a 4 or 4 star celebrity to sing karaoke, and it looked really weird as my hardly singing ever sim sounded good, while this glooming superstar sounded like a cat (but acted as if it was okay). She left the building shortly after :)

My 3 star sim got a call from a friend, suggesting they should check out a talent show at a bar. Huh? Are they not supposed to be beyond attending talent shows at a bar? Well, the sim calling is also fame level 3 or 4, so maybe it was meant as a bad joke? :) I don't think famous sims should suggest such activities :)

Also, it feels a bit wrong when say a 2 star actor screams over seeing a 4 stars actor. I guess any sim will behave rather hysterical when confronted a sim with higher fame level, but in RL this hardly happens. They are colleagues, and it feels a bit off acting like that just because your colleague is a little more experienced.

Finally, going to a night club to dance is hopeless if you got some fame stars. The DJ will stop playing. So,. you could just as well head for the bar, but then you would not need to go to the disco at all, would you? It was fun the first time, and I know there is *one* club where fans won't get in, but if the DJ has no fame stars, music will stop anyway, right? I did not check that yet.
jeswainston65
6 years ago
Wow, you've really created a whole little other life series here. Pretty impressive.
GalacticGal
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
"Simmerville;c-16903706" wrote:
Q: Is there a time limit to how quickly we can build fame?
I noticed there is no increased fame from doing more, once my sim has reached 1 star. Publishing 1 book gave a big impact before reaching the first star, but no impact after. I guess I must give this writer some time? How long?

I only have one star with whom I worked with to gain his fame. He's a singer. I also use Sacrificial's Road to Fame_Professional Singing Career to help augment this career. It took quite some time to earn his second star. The first one took about twenty minutes in real time, a few hours in Sim time. What I've gleaned from other players, is that most actions need to be taken around other Sims. Writing a book is a solitary business, on the whole. I would suggest you see what actions your writer could do that has the Fame + sign next to it. You need to do these enough so that that one star doesn't fade away, and believe me without maintenance, it will fade. I can't say for just how long it will take to reach level two. Like I said, my Global Superstar is a singer. I would have him live stream his concerts, or anytime he was out and about doing those Fame+ interactions. I also had him bring those 7 Sims along when he traveled.

I just bumped his sister up to B-Lister. She's an Archeologist's of some note, and was already receiving items in the mail for her to authenticate. Once I remove my singer from her household, I will explore how to keep her stars the legitimate way.

As for stars screaming over stars at a higher level, did you not hear Meryl Streep go gaga over giving Sir Paul McCartney his lifetime achievement award? She was positively giddy.
GalacticGal
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
"Simmerville;c-16909642" wrote:
"GalacticGal;c-16908132" wrote:
I only have one star with whom I worked with to gain his fame. He's a singer. I also use Sacrificial's Road to Fame_Professional Singing Career to help augment this career. It took quite some time to earn his second star. The first one took about twenty minutes in real time, a few hours in Sim time. What I've gleaned from other players, is that most actions need to be taken around other Sims. Writing a book is a solitary business, on the whole. I would suggest you see what actions your writer could do that has the Fame + sign next to it. You need to do these enough so that that one star doesn't fade away, and believe me without maintenance, it will fade. I can't say for just how long it will take to reach level two. Like I said, my Global Superstar is a singer. I would have him live stream his concerts, or anytime he was out and about doing those Fame+ interactions.

Hi! I think I figured that it will take much longer / more points to gain fame, the higher level the sim is at. I wish we could see the points somehow, it would be useful knowing whether the sim is very close to lose one star.
Ah, live streaming a concert sounds cool, I gotta try that sometime!

"GalacticGal;c-16908132" wrote:
I also had him bring those 7 Sims along when he traveled.

Hm, what is this about? Is it a feature, or did you mean bringing the full household?

"GalacticGal;c-16908132" wrote:
As for stars screaming over stars at a higher level, did you not hear Meryl Streep go gaga over giving Sir Paul McCartney his lifetime achievement award? She was positively giddy.

Hehe, no, I didn't watch Meryl Streep. I never watch award shows, If I did, I guess I would have been tons more hyped about this GF pack :) I don't even think I will bother to send my only acting sim to check out the award event, that I read about... But yes, I understand a global actress might scream like a fan when meeting a global musician. They work in so different fields, and I guess that is often the case in the game, also. Non-colleagues, after all.

This award show was several years ago. I watched it primarily because I'm a huge fan of Paul McCartney (since I was 9, so very many moons ago) and he was getting the Lifetime Achievement Award. I haven't watched an award show in years. Anymore they're just too full of political rants and I'm just not wanting that when I watch that type of show.

To answer your question about bringing along 7 Sims. Whenever you have your Sim travel, after you select the location you get that dropdown menu of all the Sims your Sim knows. From there you pick the 7 you want to have accompany them. I don't always keep to his household.

I do agree with you that the more fame your Sims achieves the harder it becomes. I just kept my eye on the green bar as it slowly filled up. At one point I thought the RTF mod was interfering as that green bar was pressed up against the star. Turns out my Sim was just on the cusp, so to speak. The next Fame + interaction shoved him over that edge into the next star!
bettybee17
6 years ago
The thing that annoys me with the drone is that it always films from behind the subject and the inner cinematographer in me hates that. In RL, I wouldn't want to watch a video of someone's backside while they're jamming out on the guitar so I'm not a fan of that in the Sims.

What I've had one of my influencers do is record himself watching another sim performing but I wouldn't be able to have a good recording of him playing the guitar. I also wish there was a way to have the drone film from a stationary position and control it's movements like you would with a real drone.
Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
Q: Is there a time limit to how quickly we can build fame?
I noticed there is no increased fame from doing more, once my sim has reached 1 star. Publishing 1 book gave a big impact before reaching the first star, but no impact after. I guess I must give this writer some time? How long?
Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
My most famous sim pre GF, is jazz singer Olivia Clump. Singing skills are 9, and I pretend she sold lots of records and did radio shows as well as concerts in the past. Unfortunately nobody noticed, and that's what I hope will change with GF installed. Because Olivia is my biggest star, I wanted to build her fame first.

http://www.hinsides.no/temp/ts4-gf-20190106a.jpg

And, singing seems to be pretty straight forward when it comes to gaining stars. I sent her to a community lot with a small venue (she gave a concert there in my film "Seasons - Newcrest"). She brought her son, Garvin Clump, who is YA and wants to build a career as a piano player. Right now I focused on Olivia, but audience did tip Garvin a little, as well. He is young and he will build his fame eventually, but while I think Olivia deserves 4 stars, Garvin will be happy with just 2, for now.

However, when Olivia reached her first fame star, it looked like any further tip did not have impact. So, I'll leave these two for now and check back on them in a few sim weeks.
Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
Next out are my 5 Councilors. Together they form the regional Council, so I figure it's logical that most sims know them and will recognize them. So, I decided to give them 2 fame stars. I started with Bud von Kaching, and sent him to the speech podium of Uptown, San Myshuno.

http://www.hinsides.no/temp/ts4-gf-20190106b.jpg

But this was way harder than I expected. It says that "Give speech..." adds to fame, but I see no effect whatsoever. It's very hard to make sims stop to listen, maybe that's why? His charisma skills are level 6, and his career level - oups! He is at career level 6, but he is in Business and not Politics. Shouldn't the speech podium add to fame regardless of career? It's all about exposing yourself to the masses, right?

Q: How can Politics (uhm, business people) gain fame, if not from speeches?
Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
So, I've tested a bit how I can give the full Council a fame boost in one go. I thought I had a brilliant idea, but did I?

They are already members of an invite-only group. I built a "speakers corner" in a park, and had Spokes Sim initiate a group gathering. The group's main activity is to give speech, so it didn't take long until all 5 of them were at the new corner, with 5 podiums waiting.

http://www.hinsides.no/temp/ts4-gf-20190106c.jpg

I let this gathering last for the full day. I realized the active sim would have the better score, because as soon as he completed one speech, I could direct him to give another speech. The others took breaks, but I think they all spent more than 50% of the time on speeching. Once lead sim reached his 1st fame star, I ended the meeting. Then I switched to one of the council members' house, to check on the progress. And I was sooo disappointed, finding that there was no progress at all! I really think that a sim giving speeches for half a day, even if bot being actively played, should gain some credit for the efforts! So, groups obviously won't help much with building fame, although "Acting" is now implemented with the groups activities and benefits.
kaeyresky
6 years ago
"Simmerville;c-16903706" wrote:
Q: Is there a time limit to how quickly we can build fame?

No, there's no time limit.

"Simmerville;c-16903841" wrote:

Q: How can Politics (uhm, business people) gain fame, if not from speeches?

Giving off a speech to himself is not going to increase his fame. There needs to be an audience.