I noticed a huge difference in toddlers tonight

Well I mean the toddler beds in TS4 do have 1 Energy so that explains why they sleep so long.

Yup, for the first time I have enjoyed toddlers. Sims 2 and 3, toddlers were despised, lol. It seemed I couldn't get my parents of them to take time out for themselves, they were majorly frazzled.

But in Sims 4, they are fantastic...parents teach them the basics and then they learn on their own. I usually have parents put them down to take naps around 12-1, then to bed by 8. It makes me feel as though I can finally enjoy families, for the first time. <3

This is The Sims- I don't want Realistic in a cartoon game. I love my TS2 toddlers and much rather not put any bad on them.

My parents get sleep and their needs taken care of without problems- and with multiples. They're not rubbish- thank you very much. :lol: :)

*Parents SHOULD be frazzled until their kids move out. :lol: RL- bam

"DreamsInPixels;15663874" wrote:
Well I mean the toddler beds in TS4 do have 1 Energy so that explains why they sleep so long.

If I remember correctly, the toddler/baby beds in TS2 had 12 Energy, which is why they needed so little sleep.

"LaBlue0314;915632" wrote:
I was not for sure if I should have posted this in the Sims 4 or the Sims 2 forum, because this is about toddlers from both games. Today I took a brake from Sims 4 to play a family in Sims 2. This family has two toddlers, and something I noticed was how fast it took toddlers in Sims 2 to gain a their full rest when sleeping. It seems like their parents would put them down, and normally would use this time to catch up on their own rest or to take care of some other important needs, but they gained their rest so fast it seemed a bit unreal. In Sims 4. toddlers take forever in getting fully rested. This is not a complaint or anything, just an observation.

It means they listened. See, in Sims 3 it was like that too. I became accustomed using cheats to slide up their needs so my Sims could do something other than take care of two toddlers. It was that household specifically - I must have clicked try for baby by accident one day Simming because I didn't intend for another baby so soon and she had twins, leaving me with a period of time with three toddlers. It was just not feasible without cheats because the other thing the team needs to STOP implementing in our game is stupid outerwear, because they stand in place for 2 sim hours to change before doing certain actions. Between those two issues I just started using cheats.

It wasn't "toddlers" at the end of the day that were problematic, it was just their need's needed to be tuned behind the scenes in the coding. Similar to Sims 2 - but I actually think other than sleeping, the needs are tuned finer in 2 then in 3m, excepting sleep because I agree in 2 by the time mom gets her needs in order baby's up. Really! I think in 2 though it was meant as a dig into how hard toddlers can be! LOL But in 3 it was just poor execution. They're needs should have been tuned like patch 2. lol So, I'm glad to hear that Sims 4 toddlers seem to have found balance.

Let's just hope they don't do outerwear as an autonomous action. In 2 and 3, it creates chaos in saves that have any depth. The problem is they test EPX with fresh base game saves, so yes in those saves outerwear isn't a problem, but add 11 EP's with all those added autonomous actions your waiting 2-3 sim hours for them to change into clothes to take the garbage out or get to the carpool. It's a cute feature that never works out as its intended. I will say however the outerwear issue isn't as apparent in the Sims 2 on today modern PC's, but that's because it's running on machines that didn't exist when it was released lol

I like that toddlers need so much sleep. Not only it's realistic, but it's also great for parents to have still time for intimacy before sleep.

"BlueR0se;15663331" wrote:
It plum for sims 4 toddlers cause a lot of times their hunger needs lower faster than their sleep needs rise so you gotta wake up the fussy nuggets to feed them.

This bothers me though. I had a toddler almost taken by the social worker just because of that. I wish hunger and bladder needs could drop slower during sleep for toddlers.

As mentioned - in Sims 4 - the toddlers nearly starve in their sleep so feel I have to check on them constantly and almost always have to wake them before they are done sleeping to feed them. Sims 2 was too fast though as was also mentioned - parents got no sleep or down time - a happy medium would be lovely!

You all know in TS2 you didn't have to get them out of the crib at night. They'd cry for a bit but then sit down and pick their nose or sing. If they were potty trained and knew how to walk they could climb out of their cribs to use the potty- if they had to.
Also, left in the crib, they get tried and hungry... after a little bit the parent could give them a midnight feeding and put them back in the crib. They'll go back to sleep.

IRL... My son didn't sleep the night until he was 6. Your RL isn't everyone's RL. :lol:

*dis my fav game cause ya'll don't know how to play it well. :humf:

Oh I love this aspect of sims 4 toddlers! I have them potty immediately after dinner and they're put to bed by 7/8. Then the adults in the household have time to woohoo or other activities. I generally have the toddler nap at noon which gives their caretaker another block during the day to take care of their own needs and aspirations. It's so wonderful!

I watch their needs while they sleep, and if they start going down in the yellow I get them up to eat, and use the potty, then put them back to bed.

like every one has said, I like that they sleep long, mum and dad can catch up sleep and other needs. Though I do find that even with a few toddlers its too easy.