Maybe I'm just not looking at this right, but Laundry Stuff literally had 4 unique Gameplay items (if we include Washers and Dryers as the same item) and probably has the biggest system we've seen in a Stuff Pack to date by quite a bit. And now Jungle Adventure has come out, with a world that's 3x as big as the what we got with Vampires and much bigger than Outdoor Retreat, and there's more skills, gameplay items and overall animations than what we've seen for a GP so far by quite a significant chunk (Vampires seemed to be the most Animation heavy so far and I'd say this eclipses it by a fair amount). I'm thinking maybe with the console release confirmed, they've been able to up the budget for the packs because they know the audience has increased? What do you guys think?

"jackjack_k;d-935126" wrote:Maybe I'm just not looking at this right, but Laundry Stuff literally had 4 unique Gameplay items (if we include Washers and Dryers as the same item) and probably has the biggest system we've seen in a Stuff Pack to date by quite a bit. And now Jungle Adventure has come out, with a world that's 3x as big as the what we got with Vampires and much bigger than Outdoor Retreat, and there's more skills, gameplay items and overall animations than what we've seen for a GP so far by quite a significant chunk (Vampires seemed to be the most Animation heavy so far and I'd say this eclipses it by a fair amount). I'm thinking maybe with the console release confirmed, they've been able to up the budget for the packs because they know the audience has increased? What do you guys think? I can see this happening. Heck even with Laundry day has an dedicated new system just for it. If they will release another gamepack and Stuff Pack this year that feels so big, then yep we are right lol. But in all seriousness this reminded me of what Grant had Said. The release of the Cats and Dogs Expansion was just the beginning of the second wave of The Sims 4. I can't wait to see their upcoming content.Tho, if they increased budgets for all the pack types, would it be awesome for EA to had two expansion pack team? Mmm. Maybe if the Sims Team can keep the quality that we had today then EA might do it. I hope.

I'm curious to see if expansion packs will be better quality. Maybe they just finally took everyones complaints that a lot of packs were disappointing and not fully fleshed out and decided to give us better quality packs.

"@LoveMcQueen5683;c-16325841" wrote:I'm curious to see if expansion packs will be better quality. Maybe they just finally took everyones complaints that a lot of packs were disappointing and not fully fleshed out and decided to give us better quality packs.I think it might also have been a case that it wasn't so much the complaints, but more that TS4 might just be a more expensive game to develop? The animations and world tools are more complicated this time around, which may mean they were given the same budget but they actually need more to work on it?Idk, I don't really see it being based on complaints knowing how EA barely do anything, especially when it's usually a small minority that don't buy packs they complain about. Could be a first though! haha

I agree, appears there's a bigger budget. The real evaluation will be in what we get next quarter. Also shows the great job the gurus can do with an appropriate budget

Let's also hope that the next expansions will be a knockout as well compared to the general disappointments of City Life and the bug-riddled initial release of Cats & Dogs.

Increased budgets for packs? | EA Forums

TS1299
7 years ago
"jackjack_k;d-935126" wrote:

Maybe I'm just not looking at this right, but Laundry Stuff literally had 4 unique Gameplay items (if we include Washers and Dryers as the same item) and probably has the biggest system we've seen in a Stuff Pack to date by quite a bit.

And now Jungle Adventure has come out, with a world that's 3x as big as the what we got with Vampires and much bigger than Outdoor Retreat, and there's more skills, gameplay items and overall animations than what we've seen for a GP so far by quite a significant chunk (Vampires seemed to be the most Animation heavy so far and I'd say this eclipses it by a fair amount).

I'm thinking maybe with the console release confirmed, they've been able to up the budget for the packs because they know the audience has increased?

What do you guys think?

I can see this happening. Heck even with Laundry day has an dedicated new system just for it. If they will release another gamepack and Stuff Pack this year that feels so big, then yep we are right lol. But in all seriousness this reminded me of what Grant had Said. The release of the Cats and Dogs Expansion was just the beginning of the second wave of The Sims 4. I can't wait to see their upcoming content.

Tho, if they increased budgets for all the pack types, would it be awesome for EA to had two expansion pack team? Mmm. Maybe if the Sims Team can keep the quality that we had today then EA might do it. I hope.
LoveMcQueen
7 years ago
I'm curious to see if expansion packs will be better quality.

Maybe they just finally took everyones complaints that a lot of packs were disappointing and not fully fleshed out and decided to give us better quality packs.
JackJack_Morris
7 years ago
"@LoveMcQueen5683;c-16325841" wrote:
I'm curious to see if expansion packs will be better quality.

Maybe they just finally took everyones complaints that a lot of packs were disappointing and not fully fleshed out and decided to give us better quality packs.

I think it might also have been a case that it wasn't so much the complaints, but more that TS4 might just be a more expensive game to develop? The animations and world tools are more complicated this time around, which may mean they were given the same budget but they actually need more to work on it?

Idk, I don't really see it being based on complaints knowing how EA barely do anything, especially when it's usually a small minority that don't buy packs they complain about.

Could be a first though! haha
orkhid22
7 years ago
I agree, appears there's a bigger budget. The real evaluation will be in what we get next quarter. Also shows the great job the gurus can do with an appropriate budget
paradiseplanet27
Seasoned Newcomer
7 years ago
Let's also hope that the next expansions will be a knockout as well compared to the general disappointments of City Life and the bug-riddled initial release of Cats & Dogs.
catloverplayer
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
"paradiseplanet;c-16325931" wrote:
Let's also hope that the next expansions will be a knockout as well compared to the general disappointments of City Life and the bug-riddled initial release of Cats & Dogs.

Cats and Dogs is the best ep and pack so far. I love it so much I can't wait to see it come to the consoles as well.
icemanfresh
Seasoned Newcomer
7 years ago
"LoveMcQueen5683;c-16325841" wrote:
I'm curious to see if expansion packs will be better quality.

Maybe they just finally took everyones complaints that a lot of packs were disappointing and not fully fleshed out and decided to give us better quality packs.

Exactly what I was thinking during the stream. If Jungle Adventure is so good that it's almost an EP IMO, I wonder if the EP team will up their game as well. Since we're all expecting Seasons next, I hope it'll surprise us in a good way.
Simburian
New Traveler
7 years ago
Sims 4 has become a great cash earner for EA and now they cannot ignore its' ever faithful core users.

No catering for 32bit machines now. 64bit is the minimum spec. for this. I foresee a lot of new PCs and Macs being bought.

Most times I log on now (uk) there are about 60,000 Simmers on line whereas last year it was 30,000.
Cynna1065
7 years ago
"Simburian;c-16326028" wrote:
Sims 4 has become a great cash earner for EA and now they cannot ignore its' ever faithful core users.

No catering for 32bit machines now. 64bit is the minimum spec. for this. I foresee a lot of new PCs and Macs being bought.

Most times I log on now (uk) there are about 60,000 Simmers on line whereas last year it was 30,000.

I'm happy that the team is stepping up their game (no pun intended. ;) ). Honest to goodness, I've been waiting for this. Fewer loading screens and the ability to visit the places that you can see -- those are big selling points for me.

However, the game should have never been 32-bit in the first place. By making it a requirement, after the fact, it's going to create headaches for certain players. I feel bad for those who bought the game, expecting one thing, and now, they're basically being told that they'll have to get off of the bus because the ride will be continuing without them. Hopefully, a good number of players will be able to buy another ticket, so to speak, and to continue the journey.
JackJack_Morris
7 years ago
"@Cynna;c-16326138" wrote:
"Simburian;c-16326028" wrote:
Sims 4 has become a great cash earner for EA and now they cannot ignore its' ever faithful core users.

No catering for 32bit machines now. 64bit is the minimum spec. for this. I foresee a lot of new PCs and Macs being bought.

Most times I log on now (uk) there are about 60,000 Simmers on line whereas last year it was 30,000.

I'm happy that the team is stepping up their game (no pun intended. ;) ). Honest to goodness, I've been waiting for this. Fewer loading screens and the ability to visit the places that you can see -- those are big selling points for me.

However, the game should have never been 32-bit in the first place. By making it a requirement, after the fact, it's going to create headaches for certain players. I feel bad for those who bought the game, expecting one thing, and now, they're basically being told that they'll have to get off of the bus because the ride will be continuing without them. Hopefully, a good number of players will be able to buy another ticket, so to speak, and to continue the journey.

It's clear now that making it 64 bit only they're able to say goodbye to ALOT of limitations that were holding them back.