Lazy Gamers Jungle Adventures Review Is Up

Defiantly looked fun. Time for Grim adventures in the jungle. xD

"BMSO;c-16356678" wrote:
Defiantly looked fun. Time for Grim adventures in the jungle. xD

It very much is. I like it a lot.

"Writin_Reg;c-16356675" wrote:

"Felicity;c-16356492" wrote:
Most of Sims 4 is a rabbit hole, really, at least in function, with only the active lot, well, active. I'm not sure I would call the warp zones on the path rabbit holes.

Well like Sims 1, 2 and 3 - so of course it also has chance cards. Sims always does. They are nothing the game hasn't always had. Are you just now noticing that? I find that hard to believe. At least this time they made it cute and even have little pictures. Bon Voyage just left us standing there as the sims took off with the tour guides - then sims came back either all injured or happy depending on how we answered their chance cards. Sims 3 even had it in regular play - at sims jobs, at kids field trips and tons of other ways. And in that case we couldn't see much of anything. At least in this one we have game play and we get to see and go with the sims. I'd say this time they are the best chance cards ever. Up there with the ones in Sims 1 Making Magic and their Sims 1 vacations that Will Wright made. Will Wright tends to like chance cards judging from many of his games.

Sims 4 does not really have rabbit hole per sec - technically . Again - these are chance cards. A rabbit hole is a space the character goes into and then comes back out of. When sims in Sims 4 goes into somewhere they come out some where else that you can explore with them - so not really a rabbithole. A rabbithole would be like Sims 3 mausuleum in the graveyard or the sims work places in Sims 3, or the tours in Bon Voyage in Sims 2. Those are rabbitholes.

(Keep in mind I love all the sims games - so I am not judging one against the other - Just telling it like it is.)

That's not true, sims 4 has rabbit holes:

School
Majority of jobs not including the active careers
Volunteering opportunities - the sims will disappear off lot to a rabbit hole
City living events like the concerts and circus- disappearing off lot to a rabbit hole

Not saying the first two aren't rabbit holes in previous games but you can't honestly call them a rabbit hole in previous games but consider them not a rabbit hole in that context in this game.

Bon voyage was different, tours yes were a rabbit hole but you had so much more to do on vacation with different community lots. You could actually go in destination and ignore the tours altogether. In JA the text rabbit holes form part of the adventure each time your sim goes to a new area. I consider it a rabbit hole as I can't see where my sim has gone. Sure it's nice to read that my sim has come across an abandoned campsite and if she gets chased by an angry camper I would rather see that! Not just get a piece of text and a picture telling me the outcome and my sim getting a moodlet. That's not game play. All I've done is the player is click a button. I don't see any of these scenarios, I just read about them and I would much prefer to play these scenarios.

"NorthDakotaGamer;c-16355998" wrote:
So me sensing the EA game changers reviews as sounding very fake is offensive? It is just they way seem to come off as. I don't agree with every review from any specific Youtuber, but I can honestly tell when they do not appear to be honest. Honest reviews have both negative and positive in them. This particular one stated the gameplay was good, if you already like the limitations of Sims 4. So for those that dislike the limitations, it sounds like it will not improve the game.

No, I did not say it's offensive :) I said it's annoying for people to assume that a) "EA game changers" (which people seem to despise for the name alone) are fake because they like the game and get excited about B&B additions (so do others, just FYI), or god forbid make money this way, or that b) LGR is fake (since some other people seem to think he just caters to the "negative vibe", which is an equally weird assumption) just because he's got certain issues with the game he's trying to address. I don't see why people nowadays have to call everything that doesn't support their feelings "fake" or manipulative. Especially when it's about what games we like.

And again, cause this kinda keeps popping up: yes, most EA game changers make money on YouTube (not even necessarily from EA, but in the many complex ways content creators on YouTube get paid). But many of them probably made vids before actually earning enough to make a living from it, and EA liked what they were doing for the sims and invited them into their program, just like they invited LGR. And if you've ever worked in marketing you know you're not gonna send free products to people for no reason at all, but for the sole purpose of reaching their audiences. They pick them because they're popular, it's rarely the other way around. People have to stop saying that LGR declining to be a part of EA's chosen early reviewers, makes him any more or less honest than anyone else.

Someone who likes the game might just have less qualms about signing up for this than someone who doesn't & wants that to remain clear. But really, I doubt EA would've forced him to change his reviews. Why would they ask him at all if they were too afraid of what he had to say? He's got audiences they want to connect with, that's why he got invited. He declined, life goes on. Other people didn't. And that doesn't make them any less trustworthy. If I love something and a company asks me if I want to get it for free early so I can write about it, I'd say yes in a heartbeat, too. And that wouldn't suddenly make me 1000% more critical about the product, just you know, because. Maybe you can tell when someone's being dishonest, but I'm afraid when it comes to this particular topic, people often equate dishonesty with disagreement.

@MidnightAura I wasn't trying to derail the thread, sorry you feel that way.

"Writin_Reg;c-16356675" wrote:

"Felicity;c-16356492" wrote:
Most of Sims 4 is a rabbit hole, really, at least in function, with only the active lot, well, active. I'm not sure I would call the warp zones on the path rabbit holes.

Well like Sims 1, 2 and 3 - so of course it also has chance cards. Sims always does. They are nothing the game hasn't always had. Are you just now noticing that? I find that hard to believe. At least this time they made it cute and even have little pictures. Bon Voyage just left us standing there as the sims took off with the tour guides - then sims came back either all injured or happy depending on how we answered their chance cards. Sims 3 even had it in regular play - at sims jobs, at kids field trips and tons of other ways. And in that case we couldn't see much of anything. At least in this one we have game play and we get to see and go with the sims. I'd say this time they are the best chance cards ever. Up there with the ones in Sims 1 Making Magic and their Sims 1 vacations that Will Wright made. Will Wright tends to like chance cards judging from many of his games.

Sims 4 does not really have rabbit hole per sec - technically . Again - these are chance cards. A rabbit hole is a space the character goes into and then comes back out of. When sims in Sims 4 goes into somewhere they come out some where else that you can explore with them - so not really a rabbithole. A rabbithole would be like Sims 3 mausuleum in the graveyard or the sims work places in Sims 3, or the tours in Bon Voyage in Sims 2. Those are rabbitholes.

(Keep in mind I love all the sims games - so I am not judging one against the other - Just telling it like it is.)

A rabbithole is your sim doing stuff without you seeing them, that’s what a rabbithole is. And Sims 4 has a lot of those.

I don’t like chance cards. Well, I do in Monopoly, but not in a PC game. That includes the chance cards in Sims 3 (and 2 undoubtedly), but I don’t all of a sudden like them because they come with a cute picture now. How much of a chance is it really? It’s always the third option and you need an item you bought at the market to be able to pick it isn’t it? I like a lot about this pack but the chance cards aren’t part of it.

As for LGR, I think he praises what absolutely deserves to be praised and he criticizes what deserves to be criticized. I don’t find him lazy while doing it at all, in fact he does it quite thoroughly.

"Writin_Reg;c-16356675" wrote:

"Felicity;c-16356492" wrote:
Most of Sims 4 is a rabbit hole, really, at least in function, with only the active lot, well, active. I'm not sure I would call the warp zones on the path rabbit holes.

Well like Sims 1, 2 and 3 - so of course it also has chance cards. Sims always does. They are nothing the game hasn't always had. Are you just now noticing that? I find that hard to believe. At least this time they made it cute and even have little pictures. Bon Voyage just left us standing there as the sims took off with the tour guides - then sims came back either all injured or happy depending on how we answered their chance cards. Sims 3 even had it in regular play - at sims jobs, at kids field trips and tons of other ways. And in that case we couldn't see much of anything. At least in this one we have game play and we get to see and go with the sims. I'd say this time they are the best chance cards ever. Up there with the ones in Sims 1 Making Magic and their Sims 1 vacations that Will Wright made. Will Wright tends to like chance cards judging from many of his games.

Sims 4 does not really have rabbit hole per sec - technically . Again - these are chance cards. A rabbit hole is a space the character goes into and then comes back out of. When sims in Sims 4 goes into somewhere they come out some where else that you can explore with them - so not really a rabbithole. A rabbithole would be like Sims 3 mausuleum in the graveyard or the sims work places in Sims 3, or the tours in Bon Voyage in Sims 2. Those are rabbitholes.

(Keep in mind I love all the sims games - so I am not judging one against the other - Just telling it like it is.)

The only real difference between what Sims 4 has and what Sims 3 has is that Sims 3 has the actual buildings which you travel to rather than just teleporting into the nether, though Sims 4 has some actual rabbit holes if you want to get into the strict definition (rockets are rabbit holes). I agree with you on the chance cards which is why I said I didn't think I would consider the warp points rabbit holes.

But I was using the term rabbithole not so much in the literal sense but in the behavior sense. If you're not on the active lot, you are in the nether. It's different from Sims 2 in the way time works -- Sims 2, you get back to the sims not on the active lot (which has its own advantages and disadvantages). It's just the way Sims 4 works, so it struck me as a strange criticism, even if it had been spot on.

"SimTrippy;c-16356966" wrote:

"NorthDakotaGamer;c-16355998" wrote:
So me sensing the EA game changers reviews as sounding very fake is offensive? It is just they way seem to come off as. I don't agree with every review from any specific Youtuber, but I can honestly tell when they do not appear to be honest. Honest reviews have both negative and positive in them. This particular one stated the gameplay was good, if you already like the limitations of Sims 4. So for those that dislike the limitations, it sounds like it will not improve the game.

No, I did not say it's offensive :) I said it's annoying for people to assume that a) "EA game changers" (which people seem to despise for the name alone) are fake because they like the game and get excited about B&B additions (so do others, just FYI), or god forbid make money this way, or that b) LGR is fake (since some other people seem to think he just caters to the "negative vibe", which is an equally weird assumption) just because he's got certain issues with the game he's trying to address. I don't see why people nowadays have to call everything that doesn't support their feelings "fake" or manipulative. Especially when it's about what games we like.

And again, cause this kinda keeps popping up: yes, most EA game changers make money on YouTube (not even necessarily from EA, but in the many complex ways content creators on YouTube get paid). But many of them probably made vids before actually earning enough to make a living from it, and EA liked what they were doing for the sims and invited them into their program, just like they invited LGR. And if you've ever worked in marketing you know you're not gonna send free products to people for no reason at all, but for the sole purpose of reaching their audiences. They pick them because they're popular, it's rarely the other way around. People have to stop saying that LGR declining to be a part of EA's chosen early reviewers, makes him any more or less honest than anyone else.

Someone who likes the game might just have less qualms about signing up for this than someone who doesn't & wants that to remain clear. But really, I doubt EA would've forced him to change his reviews. Why would they ask him at all if they were too afraid of what he had to say? He's got audiences they want to connect with, that's why he got invited. He declined, life goes on. Other people didn't. And that doesn't make them any less trustworthy. If I love something and a company asks me if I want to get it for free early so I can write about it, I'd say yes in a heartbeat, too. And that wouldn't suddenly make me 1000% more critical about the product, just you know, because. Maybe you can tell when someone's being dishonest, but I'm afraid when it comes to this particular topic, people often equate dishonesty with disagreement.

@MidnightAura I wasn't trying to derail the thread, sorry you feel that way.

As much as I hate to say this I feel it needs to be said: LGR refused to be a part of the programme because he didn't want to compromise the integrity of his channel. He is by default more objective than a game changer because he is not getting their products for free, he is not getting free gifts off EA, he is not getting flown to events run by EA not does LGR have a channel that solely depends on the sims and only the sims.

So many game changers are not very balanced that's all I will say and I know what @NorthDakotaGamer is referring too. I'm not saying anything further on that topic.

LGR is purely objective as he's not gaining anything from EA in the process nor does he hope too. I will always trust a review from someone not getting showered with free things from the company in question with anything over someone who is and that goes for anything. I watched a youtuber recently do a review of a new shooter game that is getting panned heavily for loot boxes and believe it or not charging people for a save slot. This youtuber said the game was not that bad and criticised the "fanboys" of the game who were rightfully upset at this latest game.

Then lo and behold it turns out the company had sent the youtuber a big box of free swag. Hoodies, and other items. I refuse to believe that box did not sway their opinion and defence of the game especially when the youtuber previously was critical of loot boxes. Suddenly they weren't.

Same principle applies to the sims.

Anyhow back on topic.

I enjoyed the review and it looks like he enjoyed it - for several hours anyway and that is more time than I would give most adventure games. I didn't learn anything from it though that I didn't learn from the streams. Nice laconic style more amusing though.

PS: I felt sorry for that little dog. LGR please take off that loaf of bread costume!

His reviews usually always land on top. He has a strong following that has followed him throughout the years of the sims. He has never gotten anything for it until EA tried to get him to become part of their pack. He refused. He stands firm on his beliefs. Generally speaking though, he will always be on top. He has had more views in a day, then most have had in 4 or 5 days. That is just the way it is.

"Katlyn2525;c-16357062" wrote:
His reviews usually always land on top. He has a strong following that has followed him throughout the years of the sims. He has never gotten anything for it until EA tried to get him to become part of their pack. He refused. He stands firm on his beliefs. Generally speaking though, he will always be on top. He has had more views in a day, then most have had in 4 or 5 days. That is just the way it is.

You have to take in consideration his audience. Not just simmers but people who follow him for his gaming, computer, thrift, and food videos. His Sims 4 snark is legendary and some tune in just to hear the burn.

Anyway, I thought his review was fair. I wish he liked it well enough to actually play. His Let's Plays would be hilarious.