Mermaids deserve a pack

Yes yes yesssssssssss I love my mermaids to death but they need a skill tree, swimming in all worlds, an underworld lot of their own. They need to be able to "live" in water, eat, sleep, bathroom everything there. They should be able to go underwater and pick plants to eat, stuff to explore, Pearl's to collect, a place to sleep.

I love that they can sleep in the water but I wish they could sleep in an underwater lot also when they want to be privately away from human eyes.
Why cant kids atleast get a mermaid fin? Like come on. I'd be satisfied with just that for kids. Weird decision.

I'm just throwing this out there but if they ever decide to expand mermaids, please make the boat and aquazip for two sims. I beg you sims team. I never use it because one sim is depressing. ?

I really don't have an opinion on Mermaids getting a pack or not.

But this "DLC for DLC is bad" attitude means no serious expansion of cross pack integration between existing packs. No having Spellcasters or Vampires count for the Seasons Spooky Spirit. No having the festivals show up on the calendar. No DLC for DLC means no more cat or dog clothing - ever. No more options for doing laundry. No using the collectables in expansions for potions or other spell ingredients. No expansions to Sixam - Since that came with Get To Work. And no serious development for Mermaids.

And yes, I think the "DLC for DLC is bad" crowd is in part responsible for the lack of in depth cross pack integration for all packs since the blowback from My First Pet Stuff. Because at it's base, it requires all packs to have all features only require the base game - which means a lot of cross pack elements that people want get left on the table.

Oh, sure, I can see where and why people don't like DLC for DLC, and I can understand "they should just update the old pack" But we all know by now that EA is stingy with budget, and unless there's profit in it for EA, most old packs aren't going to get those expansions, or any major updates. Any arguments that EA somehow owes the fanbase falls on deaf ears in accounting. From what I've seen, major updates to the base game are budgeted in. Packs? For the most part, once they're done they're done.

I mean, do you play TTRPGs at all? Ever bought a splat book for an expansion (looking at the original World of Darkness, among others)? I have. Do you do other CG art? Ever bought a texture expansion for an outfit? I have. The only difference, from my point of view, is that the Sims team works for a company and most TTRPG writers and CG artists are freelance, so their sources of compensation are different.

"Calico45;c-17573384" wrote:
I would be interested if they made it, I just do not think it is likely. Now, I agree that a rework patch would be preferable for both mermaids and aliens with customers, but realistically speaking we cannot expect major reworks. Is it out of the question? No, but when the packs came out we threw our $40, $20, and $10 at them. I am not saying they were worth it at the time and that we should not have expected more, only you as a consumer can answer that, but when you purchase it you do take the content as it was given. As much as I would like to get more on that paid pack's price, I cannot expect to get it either. So either you are willing to pay more or you are not, which is what I assume the OP is asking about.

I also agree mermaids feel a little shoehorned into IL, but they are so tied to swim-able water and what became the story of Sulani that I am not sure they could have been separated. In that sense, I can see why DLC for DLC is difficult to avoid.

A quick note on that, I am neutral to DLC for DLC as a baseline emotion. Can it allow for seemingly shady practices? Yes, but look at what the Sims has already done as a series being sold piece by piece. It really is not all that much different. You have to pick and choose what your money is worth to you. Potential abuses of the system do not in of itself automatically equate to a bad system. Personally, some pack topics I would like to see more content from rather than being one and done and if it is done in a way I like I will pay more for it.

Hi! :) I agree with all you said! But if the sims 4 is going to live a long time like EA stated a while back (when people thought the sims 4 was ending ) why shouldn’t they as a company want to improve/update their own game ? As an artist I take pride in my work & sometimes I go back & add or edit a few things. Video game design is also a art form & something you should always be creative in.

This is my point exactly. They are tied to water but there’s hardly any places we can go swim? I was expecting eco living to allow us to swim in the ocean/water they had. What other worlds can we swim besides uni & iisnald ? I thought it would also be cool to swim in “dirty water” from eco living for story purposes. If you’re going to short horn mermaids & at least things that they’re tired to when it comes to the next packs that include a new world. But overall swimming underwater would be more ideal & fun then swimming above.

I also agree on this. I understand some people might not want to pay for a add on but what about the people that do? They wouldn’t make dlc if it wouldn’t sell. They have a market for them. If you don’t want it don’t buy it? But if they do do that then I would suggest not adding things that would exclude the ones that bought mermaids from IL. Like If your gonna add a skill tree for them in the next pack at least add that as a free dlc also for IL. So those who don’t want to pay for a dlc at least don’t get short horned anymore for not buying it.

*If you’re gonna short horn mermaid at least add the” things that they’re tired to for the next expack. If you’re gonna add a city with water make it so they can swim in that water .

Other: I'd prefer it to come as an update to Island Living so people don't have to pay twice for mermaids. Plus I think the underwater world would be great for Scuba Diving even if not playing mermaids.

I would like to say thank you for all who is commenting. I like to hear what other people think about this :)

I like mermaids the way they are as I’m not a huge occult player but not against occults for me mermaids are the right balance for my type of gameplay. I find spellcasters and vampires too much work. Mermaids are my favourite occult in sims 4.

Let me start by saying that i don't care for mermaids or occults so this thread is not for me, but i just wanted to add my opinion on improving already existing features through fully dedicated packs. It is kinda tricky because while i support crossing between packs and updating old features even if they are good, i dont know if they deserve the slot of a whole pack more than themes and features that did not have the chance to be added in the first place.

They're okay as they are.

I would love a pack that adds underwater gameplay for mermaids and divers. It just seems so odd to me that we have mermaids and yet we can't go underwater with them.