New Stuff Pack Coming

"Sk8rblaze;c-16362529" wrote:
Just a reminder, that's $50 dollars total for two packs of the same theme which still have less content than the predecessor entry, whereas The Sims 3 gave you horses, cats, dogs, small pets, a new open world to explore while riding your horse around as in other worlds, tons of new skills to control your pets with, and more.

The Sims 3's version was released in 2011, costs $10 dollars less, and has more content. This franchise is becoming far more of a joke and greedy money grab than ever before.

What did the Sims 3 small pets do? Is it fair to compare content there? Once we get the pack comparisons can be made and worth speculated on. I am certain though if they put a massive amount of small pets into the Sims 4 Cats & Dogs pack they wouldn't be very interactive. I'd rather have them very interactive and pay more. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna like it though.

"Hermitgirl;c-16362746" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16362529" wrote:
Just a reminder, that's $50 dollars total for two packs of the same theme which still have less content than the predecessor entry, whereas The Sims 3 gave you horses, cats, dogs, small pets, a new open world to explore while riding your horse around as in other worlds, tons of new skills to control your pets with, and more.

The Sims 3's version was released in 2011, costs $10 dollars less, and has more content. This franchise is becoming far more of a joke and greedy money grab than ever before.

What did the Sims 3 small pets do? Is it fair to compare content there? Once we get the pack comparisons can be made and worth speculated on. I am certain though if they put a massive amount of small pets into the Sims 4 Cats & Dogs pack they wouldn't be very interactive. I'd rather have them very interactive and pay more. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna like it though.

I'm trying not to pass any judgements for another 24 hours.

Don't worry, I'm sure EA has every intention of pumping money out of us, though.

"Loanet;c-16362754" wrote:

"Hermitgirl;c-16362746" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16362529" wrote:
Just a reminder, that's $50 dollars total for two packs of the same theme which still have less content than the predecessor entry, whereas The Sims 3 gave you horses, cats, dogs, small pets, a new open world to explore while riding your horse around as in other worlds, tons of new skills to control your pets with, and more.

The Sims 3's version was released in 2011, costs $10 dollars less, and has more content. This franchise is becoming far more of a joke and greedy money grab than ever before.

What did the Sims 3 small pets do? Is it fair to compare content there? Once we get the pack comparisons can be made and worth speculated on. I am certain though if they put a massive amount of small pets into the Sims 4 Cats & Dogs pack they wouldn't be very interactive. I'd rather have them very interactive and pay more. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna like it though.

I'm trying not to pass any judgements for another 24 hours.

Don't worry, I'm sure EA has every intention of pumping money out of us, though.

Well yeah they are a business... I'm a Sims 4 customer. If I can have a hamster that is more than stuck in a cage I want it. I actually have really high hopes for the interaction levels. That kind of work to put into every little creature would take time and effort. I'll pay for that.

"Hermitgirl;c-16362757" wrote:

"Loanet;c-16362754" wrote:

"Hermitgirl;c-16362746" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16362529" wrote:
Just a reminder, that's $50 dollars total for two packs of the same theme which still have less content than the predecessor entry, whereas The Sims 3 gave you horses, cats, dogs, small pets, a new open world to explore while riding your horse around as in other worlds, tons of new skills to control your pets with, and more.

The Sims 3's version was released in 2011, costs $10 dollars less, and has more content. This franchise is becoming far more of a joke and greedy money grab than ever before.

What did the Sims 3 small pets do? Is it fair to compare content there? Once we get the pack comparisons can be made and worth speculated on. I am certain though if they put a massive amount of small pets into the Sims 4 Cats & Dogs pack they wouldn't be very interactive. I'd rather have them very interactive and pay more. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna like it though.

I'm trying not to pass any judgements for another 24 hours.

Don't worry, I'm sure EA has every intention of pumping money out of us, though.

Well yeah they are a business... I'm a Sims 4 customer. If I can have a hamster that is more than stuck in a cage I want it. I actually have really high hopes for the interaction levels. That kind of work to put into every little creature would take time and effort. I'll pay for that.

THey're a business. They're not a BANK. I've been through this before, that their product is games and therefore they should make good games at a fair price. A price that results in a good gameplay experience while bringing in enough profit to go towards the expansion of the company and resulting in better games, which will make them plenty of money when people buy these better games.

No, I don't want something for nothing. No, I'm not saying that EA should make games at a loss. No, I'm not saying they should work for free.

We should all wait for the trailer before passing judgement.

I will take a look at the trailer tomorrow and see what it is. A dancing hamster doesn't tell you much.

I note that there's no pack icon.

"Sk8rblaze;c-16362792" wrote:

"Hermitgirl;c-16362746" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16362529" wrote:
Just a reminder, that's $50 dollars total for two packs of the same theme which still have less content than the predecessor entry, whereas The Sims 3 gave you horses, cats, dogs, small pets, a new open world to explore while riding your horse around as in other worlds, tons of new skills to control your pets with, and more.

The Sims 3's version was released in 2011, costs $10 dollars less, and has more content. This franchise is becoming far more of a joke and greedy money grab than ever before.

What did the Sims 3 small pets do? Is it fair to compare content there? Once we get the pack comparisons can be made and worth speculated on. I am certain though if they put a massive amount of small pets into the Sims 4 Cats & Dogs pack they wouldn't be very interactive. I'd rather have them very interactive and pay more. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna like it though.

http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Small_pets

We know, as of now, the SP will come bundled with costumes for our cats & dogs (which will likely be the exclusive feature requiring C&D) and the new rodent pet. I don't think it's too early at all to speculate and judge this idea of withholding content from a pack you pay money for unless you pay additional money for another pack.

Mind you, this could be the start of a trend that will only grow worse and more anti-consumer with time.

Much agreement. It could result in SPs being used as an excuse to put less in the larger packs. The old "Well, we made a lot of stuff for this EP. More than we need, in fact! Hey, SP crew, want some code to pad out your next SP? It'll save you work and make EA more money!"

"Hermitgirl;c-16362746" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16362529" wrote:
Just a reminder, that's $50 dollars total for two packs of the same theme which still have less content than the predecessor entry, whereas The Sims 3 gave you horses, cats, dogs, small pets, a new open world to explore while riding your horse around as in other worlds, tons of new skills to control your pets with, and more.

The Sims 3's version was released in 2011, costs $10 dollars less, and has more content. This franchise is becoming far more of a joke and greedy money grab than ever before.

What did the Sims 3 small pets do? Is it fair to compare content there? Once we get the pack comparisons can be made and worth speculated on. I am certain though if they put a massive amount of small pets into the Sims 4 Cats & Dogs pack they wouldn't be very interactive. I'd rather have them very interactive and pay more. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna like it though.

I imagine the small pet in this stuff pack will be about the same as what was available in Sims 2 and 3. This is a stuff pack after all, which has a smaller animation budget than a GP or an EP. Don’t expect Cats and Dogs quality animals out of a stuff pack.

"Sk8rblaze;c-16362697" wrote:

"Pegasys;c-16362641" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16362529" wrote:
Just a reminder, that's $50 dollars total for two packs of the same theme which still have less content than the predecessor entry, whereas The Sims 3 gave you horses, cats, dogs, small pets, a new open world to explore while riding your horse around as in other worlds, tons of new skills to control your pets with, and more.

The Sims 3's version was released in 2011, costs $10 dollars less, and has more content. This franchise is becoming far more of a joke and greedy money grab than ever before.

I don't see many people mentioning inflation...

Most things cost more than they did ten years ago. Food, real estate, entertainment, movies. At least they cost me more.

I am not defending EA here. But asking an honest question. Why should we be surprised that they are charging more for the same content, regardless of how it's pieced out?

My response to that would be then why was The Sims 3's Pet expansion the same price as The Sims 2's, yet included way more in it?

Potentially the reuse of various assets from TS2 Pets for PC and console allowed for the addition of horses. I've always speculated this.

However, I agree that this new concept is a bit :neutral:

"Katlyn2525;c-16362785" wrote:
I will take a look at the trailer tomorrow and see what it is. A dancing hamster doesn't tell you much.

In the meantime we can speculate hamster parties.

"drake_mccarty;c-16362820" wrote:

"Hermitgirl;c-16362746" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16362529" wrote:
Just a reminder, that's $50 dollars total for two packs of the same theme which still have less content than the predecessor entry, whereas The Sims 3 gave you horses, cats, dogs, small pets, a new open world to explore while riding your horse around as in other worlds, tons of new skills to control your pets with, and more.

The Sims 3's version was released in 2011, costs $10 dollars less, and has more content. This franchise is becoming far more of a joke and greedy money grab than ever before.

What did the Sims 3 small pets do? Is it fair to compare content there? Once we get the pack comparisons can be made and worth speculated on. I am certain though if they put a massive amount of small pets into the Sims 4 Cats & Dogs pack they wouldn't be very interactive. I'd rather have them very interactive and pay more. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna like it though.

I imagine the small pet in this stuff pack will be about the same as what was available in Sims 2 and 3. This is a stuff pack after all, which has a smaller animation budget than a GP or an EP. Don’t expect Cats and Dogs quality animals out of a stuff pack.

I'm not expecting it to be an EP quality pack at all. For hamsters I'd like a few things .. all of which I might not get. I'd like them to run around in a little ball. Escape in a way we can see them. I'd like them to have maybe more than one cage. As a kid I had the little box one and once I had one of those tunnel ones .. you know what I mean. If they bite you I'm hoping they bring back the guinea pig disease. I don't think all that is too much for a stuff pack. Of course I could be way off base since we just get a sim dancing in a suit as the blurb so it's a wait and see.