Now I'm Angry!!!

"pepperjax1230;c-17327785" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-17327767" wrote:

"rudolpha;c-17327761" wrote:
My sims have only had problems with elective courses. They do all their homework and whatever associated stuff comes with it, upgrading their term papers and presentations until they are outstanding level and they only need to do this once. They hand the presentations in when ready and it usually involves a trip to campus. They press the submit button for the term paper and they don't rotate away during the term. They go to classes on time but they don't bother asking the profs or using the tool tips or doing extra studying. They get consistent A+ grades for all their courses except for the two sims that took elective classes they only got a C. I think the elective classes are bugged.

I was referring specifically to the homework needing to be done more than once, not term papers or presentations. Do you also complete homework just once per class? It's probably still possible to pass even then.

I do feel like I've had more trouble with those electives classes. Though I still usually manage to get all As.

How tips because my sim failed baking she turned in everything. Then she had to take one more class to graduate because she failed baking. :joy:

I don't know, really. It seems that success is tied to so many things that no one will have the same experience. I actually like that since the gameplay will vary each time I play but I can see how it might be frustrating for others.

"IceyJ;c-17327716" wrote:

"babajayne;c-17327703" wrote:
@Sunirose - I would definitely attribute the failure to the act of rotational play during the term. This is unfortunate because it sounds like they met all their obligations and the skill levels sound like they were more than high enough since they were maxed. Thank you for mentioning this because I did wonder what would happen during rotational play under the most perfect circumstances. I wish the developers would rethink this. It seems the only way around it, and still play rotationally, is to put sims through 1 term at a time and not enroll them immediately, then play a different household, then return and enroll the student again. That’s not very intuitive for the many players who love to play rotationally and a lot of time and effort will be wasted, with bitterness felt towards the heavy handedness of how this is dealt with. I don’t blame you for getting angry. Hopefully you can revert back to a previous version of your save and finish the term before you rotated away.

I play rotationally and the only time my sim got bad grades was when I did not complete the homework and projects throughout the week. I've discovered that it's safe to switch to another family after all that is done and only the finals remain. I can also switch repeatedly between class time, coming back only to do the assignments.

I'm starting to wonder if some of those failing are only completing the homework once in each class? Homework resets and has to be completed again before each class session.

And everyone keeps mentioning skill levels, which may help performance, but your sim continuously learns these skills when going to class, studying and doing homework. So if you take a sim to Uni with zero skills, they will graduate with new skills.

Again, I'm a micro manager game player. Trust me, after every class and before the day ends, my sims have done all their homework and all projects necessary to their class obligations. I check their homework book and the computer every single day to make sure and to make double sure they have met all their class requirements. Basically, I know what you know about what it takes to meet all requirements and then some. I haven't left one stone unturned, except if there is some hidden agenda i'm not aware of.

May have to use some cheats to help progress with the completion of the degree so that you don't end up spending too much time on it. Especially, if you have more than one Sim in Uni. I will look into it further as I have only played with the Sims already in the University. Also while the homework and term papers are easy, not sure why (thus, far) the presentation options are weird. Not sure if there is a bug with this.

"Sunirose;c-17327976" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-17327716" wrote:

"babajayne;c-17327703" wrote:
@Sunirose - I would definitely attribute the failure to the act of rotational play during the term. This is unfortunate because it sounds like they met all their obligations and the skill levels sound like they were more than high enough since they were maxed. Thank you for mentioning this because I did wonder what would happen during rotational play under the most perfect circumstances. I wish the developers would rethink this. It seems the only way around it, and still play rotationally, is to put sims through 1 term at a time and not enroll them immediately, then play a different household, then return and enroll the student again. That’s not very intuitive for the many players who love to play rotationally and a lot of time and effort will be wasted, with bitterness felt towards the heavy handedness of how this is dealt with. I don’t blame you for getting angry. Hopefully you can revert back to a previous version of your save and finish the term before you rotated away.

I play rotationally and the only time my sim got bad grades was when I did not complete the homework and projects throughout the week. I've discovered that it's safe to switch to another family after all that is done and only the finals remain. I can also switch repeatedly between class time, coming back only to do the assignments.

I'm starting to wonder if some of those failing are only completing the homework once in each class? Homework resets and has to be completed again before each class session.

And everyone keeps mentioning skill levels, which may help performance, but your sim continuously learns these skills when going to class, studying and doing homework. So if you take a sim to Uni with zero skills, they will graduate with new skills.

Again, I'm a micro manager game player. Trust me, after every class and before the day ends, my sims have done all their homework and all projects necessary to their class obligations. I check their homework book and the computer every single day to make sure and to make double sure they have met all their class requirements. Basically, I know what you know about what it takes to meet all requirements and then some. I haven't left one stone unturned, except if there is some hidden agenda i'm not aware of.

This does seem to be a result of changing households. I did however have one question, and this would not result in an “F” but do you have your sims “Take Notes” while in class?? I do know this generally affects the grade a little.

I do my presentations and term papers as quickly as possible on the very first weekend the term starts. Then, go and present ASAP. That way, all I have to do is focus on homework. I’ve always got A+ semesters; maybe because my Sim jumps into degrees appropriate for their skill level and interests?

Popstarissa, that's exactly what I do and I get the same results.

"rjhenn14;c-17328186" wrote:


This does seem to be a result of changing households. I did however have one question, and this would not result in an “F” but do you have your sims “Take Notes” while in class?? I do know this generally affects the grade a little.

You got me there. I didn't know you could take notes in class. Though, as you say, I don't think that would result in a failing grade not to take notes. But I agree, it does seem to be a rotational bug.

"Sunirose;c-17329541" wrote:

"rjhenn14;c-17328186" wrote:


This does seem to be a result of changing households. I did however have one question, and this would not result in an “F” but do you have your sims “Take Notes” while in class?? I do know this generally affects the grade a little.

You got me there. I didn't know you could take notes in class. Though, as you say, I don't think that would result in a failing grade not to take notes. But I agree, it does seem to be a rotational bug.

Taking notes does seem to be enough to compensate for being late to class, so maybe? (Was late, got a 'did not do as much as others' feedback message at the end of class, reloaded, tried again, still late but took notes and this time 'did great sure to do well on exam' feedback message).

"IceyJ;c-17327975" wrote:

"pepperjax1230;c-17327785" wrote:

"IceyJ;c-17327767" wrote:

"rudolpha;c-17327761" wrote:
My sims have only had problems with elective courses. They do all their homework and whatever associated stuff comes with it, upgrading their term papers and presentations until they are outstanding level and they only need to do this once. They hand the presentations in when ready and it usually involves a trip to campus. They press the submit button for the term paper and they don't rotate away during the term. They go to classes on time but they don't bother asking the profs or using the tool tips or doing extra studying. They get consistent A+ grades for all their courses except for the two sims that took elective classes they only got a C. I think the elective classes are bugged.

I was referring specifically to the homework needing to be done more than once, not term papers or presentations. Do you also complete homework just once per class? It's probably still possible to pass even then.

I do feel like I've had more trouble with those electives classes. Though I still usually manage to get all As.

How tips because my sim failed baking she turned in everything. Then she had to take one more class to graduate because she failed baking. :joy:

I don't know, really. It seems that success is tied to so many things that no one will have the same experience. I actually like that since the gameplay will vary each time I play but I can see how it might be frustrating for others.

I do like the electives because they are based on packs you have so it makes it interesting to learn like the Selvadoradan culture without even having to go to Selvadorada. But if its based on alot of things then this pack is a learning curve for sure.

> @Sunirose said:
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> Wait. Are you saying the whole point of University is to build skills?
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> If that's the case, then I didn't need to buy University because apparently my sims had everything they needed to build all their skills, no thanks to University. What was the point of buying University then? To spend $40 to buy that joke called a ping pong table, because EA didn't think it was worth spending a few extra dollars to invest in the animations for a pool table? Or those useless kegs that are good for nothing more than a theatrical prop that gets boring and useless really fast? What did University offer? Two new skills that have absolutely no bearing on added game play? No new sim interactions? Then there's the debate podium that when two sims use it together, there is no awareness of the other sim or their environment, but a mere theatrical ditty that gets really old really fast?

This is a simulation game... That's the point of the game. You simulate real life. So with this pack, you simulate going to college and college life. Why would you ever expect anything different from what the game is?