Occult Sims

"mmb_abr;c-16698142" wrote:
@Armilus616 I suspect they may have been working on a pack (my hope is Witches) before they sent out that poll. They had one of the more official surveys (not on Twitter) about DLC in February 2017 that included Witches and Fairies. I wouldn't be surprised if the twitter polls were meant to either help decided which occult to work on next or to gauge community interest in occults to plan a release date. But that's just my theory and I'm sure my need for Witches in game leaves me a little biased. Here's a link to the SimVIP article on the poll: https://simsvip.com/2017/02/23/sims-4-yet-another-survey-surfaced/

You may remember that the very first survey in 2014 had Pets and Vampires in them.
They are not really much to go by.

I desperately want more occult sims, so I'm with you, OP!
I like how they did vampires and aliens, for the most part, so I can't wait to see what they can do with some of my other favorite occult options.

"Ceres_Meiriona;c-16698283" wrote:
I desperately want more occult sims, so I'm with you, OP!
I like how they did vampires and aliens, for the most part, so I can't wait to see what they can do with some of my other favorite occult options.

Me too.
I don't feel the game is a whole game until we have all the occults. I always play the game more often and far longer hours once the major occults are in the game - and as of yet with witches and werewolves still missing -(especially the Witches) I won't reach the point where it fully feels like my Sims game or be able to enjoy it anywhere near how I enjoy it with these occults finally added to the mix. To me the occults are like everyone elses Weather and Pets. I could play with or without weather and pets but not all my major occults.

"Armilus616;c-16697746" wrote:

"OneAdorkableGirl;c-16690413" wrote:
There were two polls about a month ish or so ago from SimguruGrant asking which occults we'd like to see in the future. Witches won with Mermaids next and I can't remember the others and how they did.

So, they're definitely thinking about other occults, it's just all about... when ...they finally release them. Just try to hold on a little longer, OP. :3 I am very excited for when they finally release witches, because I agree, we definitely need more!

Those Polls are the exact reason why I think Witches will be in the second half of 2019.
From the Community Stuff pack (Laundry) we know that Stuff packs take a year to make. Assuming that Gamepacks and EPs take at least as long, and them saying that they will do something with the poll results, one can assume that they've started working on an occult pack a month-ish ago.
By that logic, we have 11 Months to wait. At the very least.

The uproar for magic and witches has been noted since the start of the TS4. I think the poll only further proves that we want witches and magic. I don't believe it'll be too long before we see such pack.

"mmb_abr;c-16698142" wrote:
@Armilus616 I suspect they may have been working on a pack (my hope is Witches) before they sent out that poll. They had one of the more official surveys (not on Twitter) about DLC in February 2017 that included Witches and Fairies. I wouldn't be surprised if the twitter polls were meant to either help decided which occult to work on next or to gauge community interest in occults to plan a release date. But that's just my theory and I'm sure my need for Witches in game leaves me a little biased. Here's a link to the SimVIP article on the poll: https://simsvip.com/2017/02/23/sims-4-yet-another-survey-surfaced/

Yep Witches are the top occult must have for my game with Vamps being second - so I never fully get into the Sims until the witches are in the game. It gets real annoying they always add them further in the development of the game when I really wish the were the first after aliens and ghosts. Once they come into the game it is like I can't stop playing - well as long as they are done well that is. In Sims 2 they were like a after thought and very disappointing. They were the only thing though that disappointed me in the Sims 2 game.

I really want them to add a whole Supernatural expansion/game pack. I mean, the things I'm hoping for the most are werewolves, witches, and mermaids with the Supernatural pack. If they do go that far, and add even a whole world with a big lake and different themed houses for the occults, it would definitely be an expansion! Maybe they'll release them by game packs slowly; Mermaids with the ability to place a body of water down on empty plots and different CAS/Build Mode items that fit with the scaled sim; Werewolves with different options for hair because why not; and witches with nice green skin, the options for warts and big noses, and the classic broom. Just an idea, but in my signature Supernatural is closely tailing behind University. Hope they add both!

"MaggieMarley;c-16698319" wrote:
I of course do want more occults, particularly mermaids and also werewolves. I see that witches are very popular and think they will probably be the next to enter the game. I would love witches if they are well implemented with new powers and such. But, what I kind of worry about with witches is that the game designers won’t give them any new powers - they will just recycle features which are already in the game. I suspect the vast majority of their spells will consist of doing things which either aliens or vampires can do, or can be purchased from the rewards store, or can be done by a scientist. Maybe they will be able to cast a spell to read others’ personality (aliens and vampires), or to teleport (vampires), to freeze other sims (scientist: freeze ray), to make a love potion (vampires alluring power or rewards store beguiling trait), to make a sim young again (rewards store potion of youth), make a potion or cast a spell to fix a sim’s needs (rewards store: moodlet silver) to cast hallucinations on other sims (vampires) or maybe they will be able to make potions which do the same as the scientist career’s serums. The point is, while I would love to be proved wrong, I suspect that the majority of the powers that witches will have are in the game already.

I think witches will get some of those powers. But I also think they will get a lot of new magical powers as well. At least it's what I'm counting on. I hope witches can turn sims into *actual* frogs like in Makin' Magic, instead of that ugly lame frog face on TS3.

Witches are a feature I hope the vfx team puts all their effort into. Previous game's magic (exept maybe in Makin' Magic) was so lame fx wise, I really hope to see some cool effects. As of now, the voodoo doll doesn't even trigger animations on the affected sim, I hope that is updated as well.

The Sims 4 magic effects so far aren't all that bad but we'll see. They copy pasted the ghost smoke appearance to Father Winter, and I honestly hate it. But we'll see.

"Sigzy05;c-16698333" wrote:

"MaggieMarley;c-16698319" wrote:
I of course do want more occults, particularly mermaids and also werewolves. I see that witches are very popular and think they will probably be the next to enter the game. I would love witches if they are well implemented with new powers and such. But, what I kind of worry about with witches is that the game designers won’t give them any new powers - they will just recycle features which are already in the game. I suspect the vast majority of their spells will consist of doing things which either aliens or vampires can do, or can be purchased from the rewards store, or can be done by a scientist. Maybe they will be able to cast a spell to read others’ personality (aliens and vampires), or to teleport (vampires), to freeze other sims (scientist: freeze ray), to make a love potion (vampires alluring power or rewards store beguiling trait), to make a sim young again (rewards store potion of youth), make a potion or cast a spell to fix a sim’s needs (rewards store: moodlet silver) to cast hallucinations on other sims (vampires) or maybe they will be able to make potions which do the same as the scientist career’s serums. The point is, while I would love to be proved wrong, I suspect that the majority of the powers that witches will have are in the game already.

I think witches will get some of those powers. But I also think they will get a lot of new magical powers as well. At least it's what I'm counting on. I hope witches can turn sims into *actual* frogs like in Makin' Magic, instead of that ugly lame frog face on TS3.

Witches are a feature I hope the vfx team puts all their effort into. Previous game's magic (exept maybe in Makin' Magic) was so lame fx wise, I really hope to see some cool effects. As of now, the voodoo doll doesn't even trigger animations on the affected sim, I hope that is updated as well.

The Sims 4 magic effects so far aren't all that bad but we'll see. They copy pasted the ghost smoke appearance to Father Winter, and I honestly hate it. But we'll see.

Keep in mind Sims 1 was only 2 D so effects were difficult. Now they have the effects and power to do all kinds of things - just hope they take advantage of what they can do NOW! I think the only limit would be on the players end - and having the computer that allowed the full visual effect properly.

Just like the window lighting affects we now have in the game if you have a pc that handles the highest lighting effects it's amazing - but if you don't you'll never see how cool that looks and plays, and without issues too.

"Writin_Reg;c-16698298" wrote:

"Ceres_Meiriona;c-16698283" wrote:
I desperately want more occult sims, so I'm with you, OP!
I like how they did vampires and aliens, for the most part, so I can't wait to see what they can do with some of my other favorite occult options.

Me too.
I don't feel the game is a whole game until we have all the occults. I always play the game more often and far longer hours once the major occults are in the game - and as of yet with witches and werewolves still missing -(especially the Witches) I won't reach the point where it fully feels like my Sims game or be able to enjoy it anywhere near how I enjoy it with these occults finally added to the mix. To me the occults are like everyone elses Weather and Pets. I could play with or without weather and pets but not all my major occults.

You and me both :(

Sims 4 is the first sims game where I actually enjoy playing regular humans, but I still prefer my occults.

I LOVE my vampires but I like doing legacy styled stories with my own rules, and since Vampires are immortal they really don't have a need to procreate and choose heirs.

Witches on the other hand would have a need, and teaching their children magic and spells would be awesome.

I can already sense some rivalry about witches dueling because they were un happy their sibling was chosen as heir.

The devs make what sells, simple as that. If certain occult states from past games sold well, there's no doubt in my mind that they hadn't forgotten about them and are making them now. Occults like PlantSims, Werewolves, and Zombies weren't nearly as popular as the top winners of Vampires, Witches, and even Mermaids, so I doubt the less popular ones will ever be getting made in this version and fully expect the most popular ones to be remade in TS4 instead.