We're all saying it. And that's the awful thing. I know some people really hate Occults. That's okay. But they're being listened to in completely the wrong way. When an Occult first comes out, thatis the first time it arrives in the game, so of course you feel like you're getting a lot of visits from Vampires - they've never even visited before! And yes, visiting every other night is a bit much when it's impossible to wake up in time...But Occult players are actually in the MAJORITY, from what I've seen. Even those who don't play Occult heavily would rather have the option. If we had perfect realism you would have to choose whether or not to wipe.Thanks to a handful of really loud people, EA has convinced itself that nobody will buy Occult packs and Sims 4 - with its slightly cartoony style - should be more realistic, when what we want is more DEPTH. So our Occult states are really weak when we know that they could be really strong. Magic users never use Magic, and have very few spells, Vampires and Mermaids rarely visit outside their worlds.Occults make life deeper too.

Based on recent statements I’m also confident that occult players are being considered.If EA/MAXIS decided to refresh Vampires and RoM before releasing more occult packs I won’t be complaining either, especially if they were given similar treatment as was given to Spa Day.

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17977356" wrote:Based on recent statements I’m also confident that occult players are being considered.If EA/MAXIS decided to refresh Vampires and RoM before releasing more occult packs I won’t be complaining either, especially if they were given similar treatment as was given to Spa Day. Good point. If they were to refresh Vampires along similar lines to what they did with Spa Day that might finally push me over the Maybe Fence to finally get it. Vampires, I mean.

I'd say they need to polish up the Occults to all be at the same standard. Like Aliens need to be at the standard of Vampires.

"Loanet;c-17977427" wrote:I'd say they need to polish up the Occults to all be at the same standard. Like Aliens need to be at the standard of Vampires.Agreed, Aliens and Mermaids could do with their own proper habitat in the form of planets and under water lots.We should also be able to create Ghosts and assign their cause of death in CAS and plant sims need a heap of work in general if they were ever to be taken seriously in this game. I could imagine them to be some kind of fae in a Fairies pack.

"Sindocat;c-17977300" wrote:EA/Maxis has actually shared the opposite sentiment, quite recently. They know Occults are popular and in demand, and have given us non-confirmation confirmation that more could be in the works. That is, they said as much as they ever CAN say about future plans that are not final, in a recent 411. Let me dig out the actual statement:Will there be werewolves, fairies, and zombies in The Sims 4?Maybe? Maybe! We definitely hear the occult fans' strong desire for werewolves, faeries, and zombies in The Sims 4. We can’t confirm at this time when they'll make their way into the game but rest assured, we would want to put as much love and thoughtfulness into them as we did for Vampires and Spellcasters. For now, our roadmap continues to be focused on improving content that is in the game. That said, stay tuned and prepare your Sims for a relaxing refresh of one of our existing Game Packs coming up soon! (source)No - it's not confirmation of coming content, but it is surely confirmation that they are aware of interest. But it is also an admission that as of last month, the Roadmap is focussed on polishing existing content - which has also been much requested. I am optimistic for my occults in the long term, however, myself.Wings crossed.Sithia would like to cross over to TS4 from TS3 with even more fairy powers, not less.

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Loanet
Rising Scout
4 years ago
EA's clearly fond of having as many Sims packs as possible, it irritates me that they had to condense when it came to Occults.
Babykittyjade
Rising Observer
4 years ago
I know a lot of people enjoy spellcasters but I still can't bring myself to love them. The coolest thing they have is the magic battle. Besides that they feel too much like a regular human sim with a few spells. I wanted them to feel a lot more witch like and individual. Darker and kind of creepy!
They should have came with a swamp bayou world filled with dead trees.

I almost can't even see them as an occult. And broom riding as a teleport was disappointing. Familars were a great idea but badly executed. They need more personality and interaction.
And no anonymous magic use around the worlds makes them boring and once again just like regular humans.

I guess that's what they were going for hence the name spell casters?

I want to love aliens too but can't. Their powers are just so blaaaaahhhhhh. They don't even have a ship or a proper place to live. Can't cause any chaos or gather alien armies....
Scobren
4 years ago
I would love more occults. Part of me wonders if they are being held at ransom to keep sales on kits and SPs going.
SEREFRAS
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
It's so funny how Realism players actually expect Sims 4 to be realistic since it had Rocketships, Ghosts, Grim Reaper, the temporary Plantsim & Cowplant in the Base since September 2014. :D
cyncie
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
My preference would be a Supernatural EP that enhances existing occult life states while introducing new ones. Of Course, there would be a new “enchanted” world. The BB or CAS items that might appeal to realism players can also be sold as stand alone Stuff Packs. Then there would be no reason to nerf the supernatural gameplay. Maybe the EP could carry a disclaimer “Warning! Contains Supernatural Critters doing Supernatural stuff! Play at your own risk!”
Ulf-Gunnel
New Spectator
4 years ago
"SERVERFRA;c-17985939" wrote:
It's so funny how Realism players actually expect Sims 4 to be realistic since it had Rocketships, Ghosts, Grim Reaper, the temporary Plantsim & Cowplant in the Base since September 2014. :D

Hehe I have tried my best to avoid all the things you listed since 2014 lol ?
Beardedgeek72
New Spectator
4 years ago
"SERVERFRA;c-17985939" wrote:
It's so funny how Realism players actually expect Sims 4 to be realistic since it had Rocketships, Ghosts, Grim Reaper, the temporary Plantsim & Cowplant in the Base since September 2014. :D

That's... not the same thing. There's a difference between an alternate "Life state" and conventions in the series, like Grim or the Cowplant.
Heck, the Rocket Ship isn't that bad anyway. Anyone that played Sims 2 remember that you became a Superhero, complete with superpowers, at the top level of the Law career.

As I said, expected conventions.

I don't play with Supernaturals often, but I can understand those who want equal quality content for all we already have to begin with, and then we can add new ones after that.

The Vampires and Wizards are top notch. The Mermaid? Eh. The Alien? Absolutely pointless, and that's most likely because they were introduced so early.
Heck, the whole "Alien Bar Night" and "Disguises nobody cares about" are so bad. The Aliens really need an overhaul. Imagine them having a skill tree like Vampires, but instead of the risk of burning to a crisp in the sun the goal is to never be revealed as an Alien?
Beardedgeek72
New Spectator
4 years ago
"carpe_diem;c-17986830" wrote:
"SERVERFRA;c-17985939" wrote:
It's so funny how Realism players actually expect Sims 4 to be realistic since it had Rocketships, Ghosts, Grim Reaper, the temporary Plantsim & Cowplant in the Base since September 2014. :D

Hehe I have tried my best to avoid all the things you listed since 2014 lol ?

For the longest time I wanted a switch to turn off ghosts. These days mass deaths are not as common, however...
SEREFRAS
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
I still so much want my Fairies & Werewolves in Sims 4. Please devs bring them back, pretty please.
SilentK008
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
Not holding my breath for an occult pack but I would love to have werewolves or fairies.

My biggest request for aliens would be to cure the face-melting. How some aliens have face-changes when they age up to adult.

Love my mermaids, if they got something interesting I would like it.