Ocean swimming

People think that because there was discussion about changing how lots are coded, when City Living came out, and about how that would break everyone's saves. In that case, the change would affect things we've build on at a fundamental level; it would all need starting over. People are misapplying that to an unrelated type of change.

That said, I doubt they'd remake existing worlds. It would mean supporting two versions of each world, for people without the ocean-swimming pack, and all the time that goes into that would have to come out of other pack features because you can't put out a product without limits on what's done for it. Maybe someday the free-stuff team would have the time and technical-resources budget to do some of the existing worlds.

"luthienrising;c-17087187" wrote:
That said, I doubt they'd remake existing worlds. It would mean supporting two versions of each world, for people without the ocean-swimming pack, and all the time that goes into that would have to come out of other pack features because you can't put out a product without limits on what's done for it.

if they patched ocean swimming into everyone's games like in TS3, they wouldn't have to support two versions because everyone who patched their game would have the feature though if i'm not mistaken. i'm not saying they will do that though, i have no clue haha. this is the first mention i've seen of it.

I don't think we're going to see ocean swimming patched in. I think it will be specific to the Tropical World.

It would really be nice if they could place swimming in the water into some places like Windenburg, where there are beaches..... I also would love to see it patched into ponds with the fish. Since people who use debug with pools can do it, I don’t see why Maxis can’t.

It wouldn’t break anyone’s save. They said it was unlikely because of how many assets they would have to redo. Water in Sims 4 is totally different than in Sims 3; anywhere you see water in Sims 4 it was modeled to fit into the world like a puzzle piece. Sims 3 had a water layer throughout the entire map whether it was exposed or not.

File this one under “careless designs that have hindered their ability to expand the game”. IMO we see WAY too much of that given the studio’s history with this one game franchise.

"drake_mccarty;c-17087353" wrote:
File this one under “careless designs that have hindered their ability to expand the game”. IMO we see WAY too much of that given the studio’s history with this one game franchise.

Exactly. It's so unfortunate that the current game suffers a lot from this, and players have been conditioned to accept the limitations brought on by the base. Players always have to temper their expectations with "but this isn't technically feasible, they don't have the resources to make this happen, or including this would take something else away from the pack", when normally this would solely be the developer's concern.

It would be awesome if they could open up other bodies of water in other world's. They could tag it to certain fishing spots where open water swimming would make sense and it could be part of the 64bit update or any update so it's not related to and separate from a pack.

But like most everyone I doubt it will happen and will be specific to and olny in the world related pack.

"icmnfrsh;c-17087383" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-17087353" wrote:
File this one under “careless designs that have hindered their ability to expand the game”. IMO we see WAY too much of that given the studio’s history with this one game franchise.

Exactly. It's so unfortunate that the current game suffers a lot from this, and players have been conditioned to accept the limitations brought on by the base. Players always have to temper their expectations with "but this isn't technically feasible, they don't have the resources to make this happen, or including this would take something else away from the pack", when normally this would solely be the developer's concern.

Maxis has put more effort into grooming the impressionable than they have fixing the game they made. They probably don’t know how. I mean they have done absolutely nothing with any key feature of the base game, and we’ll be on what year 5 here shortly?? Super successful game’s don’t get bottom barrel funding - which from what we hear from the developers themselves is what Sims 4 gets from EA. Contradictory statements, another one of Maxis strongest features these days.

"cheescaeks;c-17087675" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-17087666" wrote:

"icmnfrsh;c-17087383" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-17087353" wrote:
File this one under “careless designs that have hindered their ability to expand the game”. IMO we see WAY too much of that given the studio’s history with this one game franchise.

Exactly. It's so unfortunate that the current game suffers a lot from this, and players have been conditioned to accept the limitations brought on by the base. Players always have to temper their expectations with "but this isn't technically feasible, they don't have the resources to make this happen, or including this would take something else away from the pack", when normally this would solely be the developer's concern.

Maxis has put more effort into grooming the impressionable than they have fixing the game they made. They probably don’t know how. I mean they have done absolutely nothing with any key feature of the base game, and we’ll be on what year 5 here shortly?? Super successful game’s don’t get bottom barrel funding - which from what we hear from the developers themselves is what Sims 4 gets from EA. Contradictory statements, another one of Maxis strongest features these days.

kinda disagree with that, its been massively slow catching up to the other two basegames like sims 2 and 3 but they're slowly getting back to it. like we didn't have terrain tools or pools or toddlers at launch, yeah, but they've been adding them back in. we don't know what they're working on right now and they can't really say anything about it until its ready.

i mean, i see the gurus using the "oh we can't do that it takes up resources" excuses all the time and then it pops out of no where. pools being a prime example of it being left out cause the engine couldn't handle it and then being brought back in when the engine could.

i do agree that this should've been done before sims 4 was ever launched (which was severely hindered by them having to backtrack on the online multiplayer aspect of this game when simcity collapsed, the major source of all the engine problems) but the only thing they can do at this point is learn from their mistakes and make sure sims 5 is a completed base before launching.

Eh, I find it hard to believe that pools came to fruition because of a sudden breakthrough with the engine, considering the amount time between the launch of the game and the patch that added them. To me, it just seems like an excuse they threw out to appease an outraged fan base because they rushed the release and left far too much out. Time has shown that they’ve used that line over and over again to try to explain obvious shortcomings.

If they do add ocean swimming, I wouldn’t be surprised if they trotted out that same resources excuse as for why it’s confined to one world.

"leetamme;c-17087399" wrote:
It would be awesome if they could open up other bodies of water in other world's. They could tag it to certain fishing spots where open water swimming would make sense and it could be part of the 64bit update or any update so it's not related to and separate from a pack.

But like most everyone I doubt it will happen and will be specific to and olny in the world related pack.

Yes like Granite Falls so our sims could swim up to the waterfall.