Option to disable vampires?

"SageRainWillow;15504914" wrote:
I don't understand how IF they did create a toggle, how does this affect YOU? Just leave it alone...lol.

Because then player triggered events of cause and effect will no longer be part of gameplay. Do you get that? If it's off or on, that means the surprise of if I do this that causes this etc. gameplay is gone. That's not The Sims.

I am a family player. That's pretty much all I do in The Sims ... build houses and play families.

I don't mind things like aliens/vampires in my game. I actually prefer it to some extent. I don't play them a whole lot, but I do like the fact that vampires were really in depth. Aliens were kind of lame, but I actually find myself enjoying playing vampire Sims.

I want to list a couple of things though:

1. I think there should be a slider bar for the ratio of Sim townies to supernatural. With each new addition of supernatural, I would like to see an update in the game menu. Maybe I want 100% vampire townies? Maybe I want 100% normal Sims? Maybe I want 50% aliens, 25% vampires, and 25% normal Sims?

2. I don't think people should be saying, "Don't like it? Don't buy it!" The pack itself offers stuff outside of just vampires. There are build/buy objects that people want to use. I think we should encourage EA to create a game that is tailored towards user customisation. We shouldn't tell people not to buy the pack if they don't like every aspect of it. I get it, vampires is the main reason for this GP in the first place, but we should accept that not everyone wants vampires in their game, and that should be perfectly fine.

We should want/encourage fellow Simmers to express their wants for the game, irregardless of them rejecting certain styles of gameplay in favour of another.

The Sims should never have a linear focus, or only allow one type of gameplay. It should be customisable to the user. That is always what made the game great to begin with. It's supposed to be about storytelling, and not everyone wants to tell the same story.

We should all want more choices in The Sims instead of taking them away.

"mirta000;15504787" wrote:

"SageRainWillow;15504765" wrote:
Well, given that every man in town was knocked up by aliens when GTW was first introduced, that was just plain silly. If you want aliens there are things you can do to increase the chances. Or go visit them yourself.

I find aliens too hard and too easy to find at the same time. On one hand there's the complete cheat being the aliens night at the bar where you can meet like 20 at the same time. On the other hand abductions never happen. I think that they should have done it like in TS2 and tied abductions to using the observatory at night-time as there's a clear action to do if you want to be abducted. Because right now there's no way for me to increase my chances of getting abducted without doing the scientist career.

Ummm the Scientist Career does not help - I play the science career with numerous Sims - it's the only one of those careers I like and the most I have gotten is aliens that visit my Sims house - no abductions at all. In fact it is the only time I see the aliens in my game is if they drop in to visit or on alien night at the local bar. Neither of which happen all that often since the cut back on aliens. I bought that whole ep for the aliens, not the careers (except Science - I like that career) or crappy retail - just for the aliens - and thanks to the cut backs on them I can't enjoy a pack I did not get on sale either - I paid 40 bucks for. So no - I will not find it acceptable for cutting back on vamps period.

I understand that they made it part of core gameplay. Which means it's already toned down more than many players want. And there's nothing anyone can do if they want to play without them completely. Both sides lose, really.

Why would someone spend $20 on a pack just to want 95% of that pack disabled? Beyond the scope of non-vampire CAS stuff and the standard build/buy content literally everything is built around vampires.

Just my opinion, but I would definitely hold off until a sale of some sort if you're just wanting the assets and not the gameplay. Expecting a toggle at this stage is a little unrealistic, there's what two supernaturals in game and neither are overly problematic. I sometimes wonder how people survived the previous two games, because every pack introduced a supernatural and a toggle wasn't available until the tail end of The Sims 3. Seems like a relatively new issue that wasn't a major problem in the past.

General rule: if you don't like what is being offered don't buy it. They aren't going to tailor their expansions so players can turn off functions that are added. As unrealistic, or out of place, as some players feel supernaturals are they remain a completely optional piece of the game.

Because, as I have said a million times, people want to play them in certain games, and not in others. It's really that simple.

"Luke;15504923" wrote:
I am a family player. That's pretty much all I do in The Sims ... build houses and play families.

I don't mind things like aliens/vampires in my game. I actually prefer it to some extent. I don't play them a whole lot, but I do like the fact that vampires were really in depth. Aliens were kind of lame, but I actually find myself enjoying playing vampire Sims.

I want to list a couple of things though:

1. I think there should be a slider bar for the ratio of Sim townies to supernatural. With each new addition of supernatural, I would like to see an update in the game menu. Maybe I want 100% vampire townies? Maybe I want 100% normal Sims? Maybe I want 50% aliens, 25% vampires, and 25% normal Sims?

2. I don't think people should be saying, "Don't like it? Don't buy it!" The pack itself offers stuff outside of just vampires. There are build/buy objects that people want to use. I think we should encourage EA to create a game that is tailored towards user customisation. We shouldn't tell people not to buy the pack if they don't like every aspect of it. I get it, vampires is the main reason for this GP in the first place, but we should accept that not everyone wants vampires in their game, and that should be perfectly fine.

We should want/encourage fellow Simmers to express their wants for the game, irregardless of them rejecting certain styles of gameplay in favour of another.

The Sims should never have a linear focus, or only allow one type of gameplay. It should be customisable to the user. That is always what made the game great to begin with. It's supposed to be about storytelling, and not everyone wants to tell the same story.

We should all want more choices in The Sims instead of taking them away.

I can pretty much ignore everyone on a community lot if I want to take screen shots of two Sims and set up a fake story denying what was really happening why my Sim passed out and make a story about it. I don't have to focus the camera on everything actually going on. Story telling is pretty much made up/fake screen shots and we all know that. Land of vampires take a screen shot of two normal Sims kissing...viola...no one will ever know there was a vampire standing next to them. Story telling is, was and always has been conjecture.

"DarkSlayer1331;15504794" wrote:
JFC I just don't get why it's such a bad thing to put in a switch. You don't even have to use it! And your response is simply "you don't have to play it." That's such a great response. People just not getting something, not putting in the money, and not supporting the game that everybody is supposed to want more things for. If people just stop saying the things they'd like to be included and simply went "okay I won't get it" then guess what? The company won't know what people want, what things could be done to make the most users happy, and in the end, people will just fall off all together and the game would start to fail. Now if that's what you're looking for, go ahead and continue to shut people out of a game pack that they would like with something else added on to better suit their own play style. But if you want real success and development, stop stomping your feet and saying "no, don't add something that I wouldn't use and actually wouldn't affect MY game because... well... because they can just not play it!"

Multiple people have already explained that ato add toggles wed have to change the core of vampires, its not like sims 3, vamps are setup.differently.

Just a quick question, does this pack bring extended night to other worlds as well?

"Cinebar;15504922" wrote:

"SageRainWillow;15504914" wrote:
I don't understand how IF they did create a toggle, how does this affect YOU? Just leave it alone...lol.

Because then player triggered events of cause and effect will no longer be part of gameplay. Do you get that? If it's off or on, that means the surprise of if I do this that causes this etc. gameplay is gone. That's not The Sims.

Ooohhh I get this! Sorry it took me a while to understand, but thank you for phrasing it this way! Yes, I can totally understand wanting that cause and effect. Now I guess the only problem I have is that there doesn't seem to be actual cause and effect. Vampires are just jumping into people's houses without provocation - which again, is totally cool if that's how you want it. I'm just wondering, and maybe there isn't, but is there some kind of way to make it so that it doesn't randomly happen all of the time? Or maybe it doesn't actually happen as much as I have gathered from the little I've read. I don't have the GP yet because I'm afraid of it happening non stop, like how people are saying the aliens were once upon a time. (Which, by the way, I have never had an abduction happen in TS4 yet and only once in TS3) Do you know yet if there seems to be random vampire attacks constantly, or have you not been able to test that yet? I know that right now most people are just enjoying playing with the vampires, so they're interacting with them anyway, so it'd be hard to determine how much is cause and effect. But maybe somebody has been playing with that and can let us know?