Randomness of Sims 4

They took out the randomness because they felt it was counter-active to players playing out their perfectly envisioned fantasy lives in this game. They have removed or watered down many of the “gamey” features making this game feel more like an interactive story book/doll house, where you must imagine most of what’s happening because the Sims certainly don’t offer much in that regard and nothing unexpected or bad ever happens without you forcing it to happen.

"drake_mccarty;c-17128223" wrote:
They took out the randomness because they felt it was counter-active to players playing out their perfectly envisioned fantasy lives in this game. They have removed or watered down many of the “gamey” features making this game feel more like an interactive story book/doll house, where you must imagine most of what’s happening because the Sims certainly don’t offer much in that regard and nothing unexpected or bad ever happens without you forcing it to happen.

Wow I couldn't have said it better tbh.

"RIP-Troika-Games;c-17128057" wrote:
They can always add a toggle in the options for these things (Story progression, burglars etc), for those people who doesn't want them.

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Story progression made it impossible for me to play Sims 3 as it wasn't compatible with my playing style. There was a toggle to turn it off. It didn't work.

I'm no fan of story progression, but wholly agree that there needs to be more randomness to the game, the unexpected twists and turns that come along as in RL. Have also noticed of late that community lots are empty (including service providers) when my sim first arrives, and I remember when it wasn't that way. Something has changed, and not for the better. Again.

"Sigzy05;c-17128207" wrote:

"SilentKitty;c-17128067" wrote:
More random stuff happening would be nice :)

Story progression would be awful :s do not want!

I want to be able to be in control of the stories in my saves. I do not want the game deciding who gets married or not because it does not know the variables in this specific save. If occults are shunned or admired and other things like that. I love to play rotational, loading a household and expecting to continue where I left off and finding a new wife and toddler is not fun. I am happy when a vampire comes over unexpectedly and snacks on my sim. Awesome! I would find it amusing if my sims would have random happenings at work that had consequences.

Sims getting married and having kids without me is a huge no-no. However I would be very happy to be able to play matchmaker for my fellow sims. If my played sim could help NPCs find their true love or a good partner somehow. By operating a dating site or arranging dates then that would be a lot of fun! I would most likely run across combination that surprised me and it could cause me to break lore-rules just because it would add to the story. I would be very happy to have a feature like this.

Trying to find where I draw my lines for randomness. I am very positive to random stuff happening to the sim that I am currently playing because then I can make sure that they act correctly to what happens. After being bitten, will they buy garlic in bulk or start researching vampires so that they also can become one. That is something that I encourage. I am much more restrictive with things happening to the households that are not played with. I want them to wait for my input. Then when I logg on anything goes.

Why wouldn't you be in control of your stories with a story progression feature? You always had the option to turn it off on TS3, so I find that argument truly inaccurate.

I would love story progression to be a feature in TS4 for those you would like to enable it, so long as it works well.

I encourage more randomness and more unexpected things happening. Meteor falling from the sky, fantastic. Even if it falls smack down in the park taking a bunch of NPC’s with it. I would still be operating one of the sims nearby and can choose how to incorporate it into my game. Try to plead with the grim for a specific sim or dancing on their graves.

If the game would be in charge of romantic relationships among NPC those parings would probably occur a bit more often than meteors and that would have a huge impact on my story. I have a lot of occult sims in my saves and they often have untold rules to follow. Hypothetical scenario. The alien faction and the vampires playing out a huge conflict for resources for example. I swing by the ghost community in Willow creek for a while and when I return a bunch of aliens wound up married to vampires. Hmmm....

More randomness and mayhem would be very much welcome, if I can see it happening then I can work it into my story. I do not want marriage and kids without my input. Flirting yes, showing a preference, yes. Actually putting a ring on it, no.

Does anyone know how to make a discussion on here? Sorry i'm new on here haha, any help is greatly appreciated :)

"RIP-Troika-Games;c-17128057" wrote:
They can always add a toggle in the options for these things (Story progression, burglars etc), for those people who doesn't want them.

The devs will always use the excuse that they lose time and money developing toggle buttons instead of adding new content to the game. Well, guess what simgurus?! You guess should always add that to the Base game. We always have ghosts in the base game (not in sims 4, but you get what i mean) so they can be used as guinea pigs for future occult toggle options. Robbers can be used as toggle options for future bad sim-related disasters. You can choose a basic disaster (like earthquake) as the guinea pig/base for future natural disasters like the volcanic activity. You can cut corners if you planned EVERY single aspect of futre DLCs before releasing the base game. Also, if they added swimmable oceans from the base game we would have more space in the Island Living pack for them to expand the actual ocean instead of adding it to the game. Now we have a world with a buggy swimmable ocean and a bunch of other worlds that we are not even able to swim. DLC should be made to expand the game, not add stuff thats lacking.

@NoWayJose527 Sims 3 didn't add better toggle options for players that like rotational gameplay, because they didn't knew how much we loved to do that, but in Sims 4 they did the opposite to players that liked story progressive gameplay. They are lazy to add advanced settings/options for some reason. If they studied some mods from Sims 3 like the MCCC they would have some ideas of how we like to set out games, but they didn't.

"drake_mccarty;c-17128223" wrote:
They took out the randomness because they felt it was counter-active to players playing out their perfectly envisioned fantasy lives in this game. They have removed or watered down many of the “gamey” features making this game feel more like an interactive story book/doll house, where you must imagine most of what’s happening because the Sims certainly don’t offer much in that regard and nothing unexpected or bad ever happens without you forcing it to happen.

make your words mine, my friend.

Thanks @Sindocat ! :)

"Karon;c-17128868" wrote:

"RIP-Troika-Games;c-17128057" wrote:
They can always add a toggle in the options for these things (Story progression, burglars etc), for those people who doesn't want them.

The devs will always use the excuse that they lose time and money developing toggle buttons instead of adding new content to the game. Well, guess what simgurus?! You guess should always add that to the Base game. We always have ghosts in the base game (not in sims 4, but you get what i mean) so they can be used as guinea pigs for future occult toggle options. Robbers can be used as toggle options for future bad sim-related disasters. You can choose a basic disaster (like earthquake) as the guinea pig/base for future natural disasters like the volcanic activity. You can cut corners if you planned EVERY single aspect of futre DLCs before releasing the base game. Also, if they added swimmable oceans from the base game we would have more space in the Island Living pack for them to expand the actual ocean instead of adding it to the game. Now we have a world with a buggy swimmable ocean and a bunch of other worlds that we are not even able to swim. DLC should be made to expand the game, not add stuff thats lacking.

@NoWayJose527 Sims 3 didn't add better toggle options for players that like rotational gameplay, because they didn't knew how much we loved to do that, but in Sims 4 they did the opposite to players that liked story progressive gameplay. They are lazy to add advanced settings/options for some reason. If they studied some mods from Sims 3 like the MCCC they would have some ideas of how we like to set out games, but they didn't.

As teenagers said back in the day: Word.

"drake_mccarty;c-17128223" wrote:
They took out the randomness because they felt it was counter-active to players playing out their perfectly envisioned fantasy lives in this game. They have removed or watered down many of the “gamey” features making this game feel more like an interactive story book/doll house, where you must imagine most of what’s happening because the Sims certainly don’t offer much in that regard and nothing unexpected or bad ever happens without you forcing it to happen.

Indeed. Which is very counter-active towards other sections of their playerbase. The ones who liked these things.

"NoWayJose527;c-17128245" wrote:

"RIP-Troika-Games;c-17128057" wrote:
They can always add a toggle in the options for these things (Story progression, burglars etc), for those people who doesn't want them.

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Story progression made it impossible for me to play Sims 3 as it wasn't compatible with my playing style. There was a toggle to turn it off. It didn't work.

Obviously I'd want a toggle that actually work, if it was to be implemented.


Why is it so common that whenever someone brings up the want for story progression and almost always a toggle to go with it for the people who doesn't want it. They usually go "No, I don't want it.". No desire for a toggle or anything. It shall simply not be added for the ones that want it. Doesn't feel very nice for the ones who do. (And this was not aimed to you NoWayJose, just a general observation on my part over the years.)