Regular townies turning into spellcasters?

"InuMiroLover;c-17240786" wrote:

"WolfNate;c-17239387" wrote:
@fullspiral People are... Odd and want the pack for build mode content and whine about fantasy plaguing them when they bought a fantasy dlc

Some simmers: "I better not see one occult sim doing any occult things in this occult pack I bought!"

Me: ?????????????????

I see it as ordering a hamburger rare and getting upset that's its pink inside.

...Or ordering a burger just to eat the bun and getting upset that it's flavored with meat.

People should be able to control this. Choice is key. While I agree certain things have been toned down, I don’t agree that because you buy this pack you have to be happy with random townies becoming spell casters. It’s very immersion breaking. The same way it’s Immersion breaking to see Sulani locals wearing their beach outfits to the Geek con in Fall.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting this pack but not wanting every John and Jessica becoming spellcasters. The player is meant to rule. I know sims 4 doesn’t like toggles but even from the game play I have saw, it’s weird to see say Willow creek townies just appear in the Realm. But then again, this is the problem with the sims 4. You leave Willow creek at the bar and say goodbye to Bella Goth; travel to Brindleton bay and who’s there? Bella Goth.

I haven't got the pack yet, but from what I understand, the townies only appear to do magic in the magic realm; and secondly, townies/npcs your sims have a relationship will not become spellcasters.

I can see they made it this way because it would be odd to go to the magic realm and have nobody else there doing magic - it would be a ghost town, not a spellcaster town. So instead of generating new sims for this, and increasing the population (which apparently can be an issue after a long time), they pull from the pool of "unplayed/uninteracted with" existing sims.

This makes sense, except most people have a preset story/idea in their mind about the premades, so having Bob Pancakes or Nancy Landgraab become a sorcerer seems off. (Not to me personally, but it sounds like this is the main issue to other people?).

One possible way around it might be to simply "favorite" all of the premades you want exempt from spellcaster status. Again, I don't have the pack yet, but maybe this would work?

I was not expecting for pre-made Sims to suddenly become spellcasters. That certainly is disappointing.

The game already cheats up skills of the premades it uses to stalk your Sims from lot to lot - like Singing, Programming, and Painting. So now it's making them Spell Casters too. I guess the game is making them Super Sims.

I opened the filter, Vampires, Alien and Mermaids are blacklisted, they can't be choosen as NPCs Spellcasters... Anyway, I edited the filter and made a mod to stop non occult sims from being turned into occults at random, too... you can find it here

https://forgottenhollow-secretgarden.tumblr.com/post/187627434911/quick-mod-for-rom-dont-turn-my-sims-into

If it is premades I personally won't mind as I was going to edit sims anyways. I always felt like that unlike sims 2, most of these games are heading towards more realism which is what I don't want and no real option to choose to spawn more. I liked Sims 2 because there was randomness and unexpected things that will never happen in real life.

Townies just get deleted usually no matter what.

"Pamtastic72;c-17239450" wrote:

"fullspiral;c-17239445" wrote:

"Pamtastic72;c-17239427" wrote:

"fullspiral;c-17239404" wrote:

"WolfNate;c-17239387" wrote:
@fullspiral People are... Odd and want the pack for build mode content and whine about fantasy plaguing them when they bought a fantasy dlc

And that's why we don't have the alien invasions like we should and what we paid for. And why vampires were toned down. And why witches will be too.

They complained that the in game dynamics were not "fun" for their happy, happy, joy, joy white picket fence sim-lives. They didn't want garlic on the walls, or satellite dishes on the lawns. And those of us who love the "weird and wonderful world of sim crazy" get screwed so they can play family time with washers and dryers.

This. I will again pay $20.00 for a pack and have $10.00 worth of features stripped out because a bunch of people buy it as a stuff pack and only want the BB and CAS. Features. The way I figure it, EA owes me money for nerfing the aliens, vampires, and weather related deaths I plunked down my money for that they later came in and extinguish it. It’s almost like running a bait and switch which technically is illegal. If people are going to pay for a pack knowing the features it contains and then gripe about not wanting those exact same features then they should have to turn to modders to tone down or eliminate them and stop having them snatched out of the games belonging to those of us who paid for them and enjoyed them.

100% exactly and you said it better than me.

The autonomous alien mind meld is nerfed. So much that we PAID for is nerfed. For the complainers who want stuff packs from game packs.

Thanks. This game sorely lacks randomness and every time we get some a small handful complains loudly and the very reasons I bought the pack...unpredictable happenstance ends up getting patched out. It’s depressing. Literally nothing happens in this game that you don’t absolutely force to have happen.

That's how I feel. Finally I get something I like and find random and fun but of course, others are going to get their way and it will be removed and goes back to less random and more mundane chores and all that.


I want witches and if I can pay for it, I want it in my game. People don't have to buy occult packs if they aren't interested in that.

"graventhe;c-17239415" wrote:

"fullspiral;c-17239383" wrote:

"graventhe;c-17239379" wrote:

"EmmaVane;c-17239364" wrote:
They only autonomously practice magic in the Magic Realm. Extra spellacasters aren't needed until you go there, so just don't visit and your save will be fine.

There will be premades in the world though, and these will likely regenerate as randoms if you delete them.

What the point of owning the pack if I never visit? I just want the magic to stay there and not spellcasters appear in other worlds?

And where these premades you talking about? In other normal worlds? Or in magic realms? I don't want spellcasters townies to spawn in other worlds and see them walking around, in the magic world its fine of course..

Why would you buy the pack if you don't intend to use it?

I want to use it just I don't want to ruin my other realistic play, it's pretty simple..the magic should stay in the magic world..I dont want spellcasters in my realistic saves wondering around everywhere..I like both realistic and fantasy..but I don't like them to be mixed..simple.

And I want witches and randomness, less realism. This is going to be a problem if they can't please both. I am afraid they are going to water things down again because everyone complains. Without a toggle feature, you are always going win and us occult simmers always lose out which means more work for us to add them all in or stuck with mods that break.

"fullspiral;c-17239597" wrote:

"WolfNate;c-17239594" wrote:
why would they nerf something? This isn't an mmo...? @Pamtastic72

Do you have any idea what they've nerfed/changed/toned down/gotten rid of since the beginning of the series and what they've sold to us?

True. I remember being told about there being a certain skill shown in a trailer and that they removed it before launch even because people complained. This the reason why so many things end up getting left out, watered down or nerfed.

It is a problem as it means many of who want these things or want it to go back to like Sims 1 and 2 can't get it or have be nerfed if we do. It's a lose lose for us. I don't want mods as they often cause problems but sometimes I have no choice if it means getting some features and randomness back. They won't even give us a story progression because some people don't want it (they could create a toggle feature for them which would be a good compromise).

Seasons was a challenge at first for example and now hardly anyone freezes to death.

I don't want magic restricted in the magic realm. They need to be out in the world. Really, if you want to be realistic magic would not be restricted to one area . I don't understand people who stomp their feet and demand that (aliens, vampires and spellcasters) be restricted because it would interrupt their game play but what about those of us that expected that to happened but then again those are the ones that think they have to have it their way and who cares about anyone else. If I didn't want them in my play then I wouldn't buy them I sure in the world wouldn't have a fit and demand them to be restricted because I think my play is more important than the ones that actually want to play the way it should have been.