Relationship Gains and Losses. Base Game Update

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I have noticed a change in relationship gain. Like an instant full green bar after a friendly hello sometimes, or just a small bit of green on the bar doing the same hello to another Sim. And alot of in-between.

Interesting. That explains it.

Thanks for posting this. I made an adult me sim (not the first time) but was having troublemaking friends and couldn't figure out why. After 4 sim weeks he'd managed only 3, and it wasn't from lack of trying. I personally think it's overboard; he has a good rep, self-assured, charisma of nine, does nothing but positive socials, and gets almost nothing out of it. The idea that he could instead run around making friends with children that aren't his own is a bit creepy, too. I get the concept, and wouldn't have minded some tweaking since it was too easy before, but not a big fan so far of the changes.

Edit: BTW, this is typical of so many of the packs. Not the tweaking; that's fine. But the fact that the social impact leans so heavily in favor of adults and their children. Which was pretty unnecessary; sim parents and kids are usually die hard friends effortlessly.

One of my families hired a nanny - instant friend with the entire family so much so that she started coming over every day when not needed and then asked if she could move in!

I don’t like this. It’s stereotypical. In my world, people of all ages get along.

I wonder if this affects at all the massive relationship gain from taking photos together?

"mightysprite;c-18249625" wrote:
I wonder if this affects at all the massive relationship gain from taking photos together?

Have you tried it lately? They may have already lowered the amount. I made a mod a while back and changed the gain to just one social point in protest, but looking at it now you only get 5 points un-modded, which isn't ALL that much. Seems like it used to be like 20 or something.

In any case, I doubt if the changes affect it at all; I think it's just a lump sum you get without all the social variances calculated in.

The changes are just to the base, not including all the social variances from various packs.

ETA: And patches. It's Ground Zero. Anything else that changes social isn't affected...just the original foundation. So I guess it affects it a bit, but not as much as if they had rebuilt the entire thing.

"WildIrishBanshee;c-18249634" wrote:
The changes are just to the base, not including all the social variances from various packs.

Not sure if that is from my quote, but in my last post I was talking about the photo relationship gain mightysprite brought up.

On the one hand I can understand wanting the sims to act more believably, but those changes may just lead to generalisations.

My personal gripe with this change is that age-based modifiers do not reflect how sims in my setting socialize at all. To them which social class and faction (career, neighborhood etc.) one belongs to is much more important.