I'm very glad that Seasons is coming, since it is one of the most requested packs, however there is (like always) something obviously lacking about an EP, so here's the thing with Seasons, which someone pointed out:https://twitter.com/SimsTimeOficial/status/999842609261613056The EP looks good, but the details such as this are just the downfall of Sims 4 packs.Shoes don't sink in the snow, since it seems like the only thing snow really does is turning the floor white and nothing else. Same with roofs, why is the snow so flat?.Little disappointed with that, since Winter is my favorite Season in the game.. Also: Since we had the amazing melting of snow in Sims 3, you know, the gradual thing; will it be like this in the SIms 4 too, or will it just be some on/off switch?.. *Update*Looks like the Windows CAN become blurry. Still waiting for the snow thing though..https://twitter.com/SimsTimeOficial/status/999861159737090049{EA_Lanna: Merged discussions. Adapted title to be encompassing to discussion points}

I'm cool with it personally. It's really not that far off from SimCookie',s winter mod and tons of simmers have used that for years with no complaints. Now in addition we get the effect of falling snow, we can build snowmen, have snowball fights, and go ice skating. Plus our Sims react to the weather. I think this is going to be an awesome pack!

"Pamtastic72;c-16490902" wrote:I'm cool with it personally. It's really not that far off from SimCookie',s winter mod and tons of simmers have used that for years with no complaints. Now in addition we get the effect of falling snow, we can build snowmen, have snowball fights, and go ice skating. Plus our Sims react to the weather. I think this is going to be an awesome pack!Fair enough, but because a modder made something available years ago, does not mean EA can't make it better. Especially since they did so in the past games.It's one of my gripes with this game, and this seems to repeat itself every time. I am not saying the EP is bad, I am only saying that little (or for me personally big) things like this are really disappointing with the Sims 4 so far.

"flowerkitten67;c-16490906" wrote:It would have been nice to have accumulated snow as a ultra settings thing, for those of us who have computers who can handle it and then no accumulation on medium-low settings. However, that is the only flaw of the pack that I can see so far :) Yes, the rest of the pack looks good, but I think it's very disappointing and I hope they will elaborate on that subject when they have the time.

"rudy8292;d-940260" wrote:I'm very glad that Seasons is coming, since it is one of the most requested packs, however there is (like always) something obviously lacking about an EP, so here's the thing with Seasons, which someone pointed out:https://twitter.com/SimsTimeOficial/status/999842609261613056The EP looks good, but the details such as this are just the downfall of Sims 4 packs.Shoes don't sink in the snow, since it seems like the only thing snow really does is turning the floor white and nothing else. Same with roofs, why is the snow so flat?.Little disappointed with that, since Winter is my favorite Season in the game.. Also: Since we had the amazing melting of snow in Sims 3, you know, the gradual thing; will it be like this in the SIms 4 too, or will it just be some on/off switch?.. I personally like it this way only because in sims 3 when my puppies or kittens where out in the snow I couldn't see them... Or if my sims put something down in the snow it was lost until spring. I remember hating it the fact I could never find the newspaper and when the snow melted there was a ton of used papers I had to recycle xD

"rudy8292;c-16490912" wrote:"flowerkitten67;c-16490906" wrote:It would have been nice to have accumulated snow as a ultra settings thing, for those of us who have computers who can handle it and then no accumulation on medium-low settings. However, that is the only flaw of the pack that I can see so far :) Yes, the rest of the pack looks good, but I think it's very disappointing and I hope they will elaborate on that subject when they have the time.If that is true, that there is no accumulation, then that is a major flaw. I loved how the snow would build up into drifts in sims 2 and 3. Are we sure about this? Maybe there are effects that are not included in the trailer. We need to get it verified by a dev or guru.

Seasons: Snow Depth and Accumulation?

keylimepiesims
7 years ago
"AlbaWaterhouse;c-16491641" wrote:
I guess it's due to the lack of a terrain tool in game. At least when it comes to the floor level, and then I assume they didn't want to make the snow have real depth on roofs since it would look odd when compared to the floor.

The difference between TS3 snow angels and the one we see in this trailer is very telling.

I disagree, this is the least they should have done, you probably wouldn't notice the lack of depth on the ground so much if the roofs looked better, look at those horrible sharp angles on the picture above!
AlbaWaterhouse
7 years ago
"keylimepiesims;c-16491700" wrote:
"AlbaWaterhouse;c-16491641" wrote:
I guess it's due to the lack of a terrain tool in game. At least when it comes to the floor level, and then I assume they didn't want to make the snow have real depth on roofs since it would look odd when compared to the floor.

The difference between TS3 snow angels and the one we see in this trailer is very telling.

I disagree, this is the least they should have done, you probably wouldn't notice the lack of depth on the ground so much if the roofs looked better, look at those horrible sharp angles on the picture above!

I disagree too, but I was just trying to get in their minds and guess what their explanation/excuse will be.
JanuaryGarnet08
New Spectator
7 years ago
"jackjack_k;c-16490938" wrote:
Honestly, I’m happy for this reason:

Realism vs Gameplay

Basically, while it’s realistic for Snow to be thick, it meant it was harder to actually play the game because you would lose objects in the snow.
It also drained FPS heavily in both The Sims 2 and 3, when all it added was some minor realism with no real advantage.

What are the pros? More realistic snow.
What are the cons? Potential lag, annoyances and reduced user experience.

Nope, scrap it.

I will however be concerned if it’s on-screen effects rather than actual rain and snow. A rain or snow filter doesn’t fly with me in 2018, and is painfully obvious.

Yes, this too. They already had to up the specs for C&D making it so lots of simmers had to upgrade computer equipment to keep playing, it would seem unreasonable I think to up them again less than a year later.
AFlyingNun
7 years ago
"peach1red;c-16491149" wrote:
That's a minor detail, I'm sure the overall content will make up for it.

What other brave new content have they actually shown...?

The lightning thing is already confirmed to NOT be a lifestate.
Pretty much all of the objects shown have been done before in the past, save for the "kiddie pool" being awkwardly used by adults.
There's already less snow activities than we once had (snowboarding, igloos), just like how we got less pets with the last pack.

The new content named is basically the scouts and making your own holiday. I'm calling it now that the "make your own holiday" thing just recycles the interface from clubs, and leaving scouts as the last thing that could potentially deliver loads of new content...? Yeah, I somehow can't picture it being that amazing that it can distract from the rest of the lacking content.

This is the canary in the coalmine. It's not just about how a lack of snow depth or snow buildup sucks (people keep linking the pics from Sims 2 for example. The thing is, Sims 2 and 3 were capable of having both snow layers as thin as Sims 4 as well as heavy layers of it. It made for a nice variety), but about how this is just a hint of things to come...or rather, a hint of the lack of things to come.

Every single time one of these trailers + blogposts releases, I argue that "if there were something else amazing worth showing off, they would've included it," and every single time that proves to be sound logic. We've yet to see a single occassion where shortly before release they screamed "SURPRISE!!" and they were somehow hiding a major feature. The fact of the matter is that this trailer didn't really show anything new and the seasons themselves even managed to look particularly weak.
MidnightAura86
New Spectator
7 years ago
How do we know scouts isn't like the volunteering in parenthood? Aka a rabbit hole?
Do we know if the pack is going to require a specification upgrade?
thegreenplumbob
7 years ago
Guys... Seasons was literally announced yesterday, the one thing everyone has been begging for since launch, so why not give it a chance before you start to bash it... If seasons can't make you happy, what will?

The lack of Snow Accumulation doesn't phase me at all, because the game still looks stunning!
ChelsPlaysSims
7 years ago
I don't care about snow depth or window fog. I'm just grateful that we got seasons and based on the trailer it looks like heaps of new CAS and build items. Some people just like to pick at EA for little, irrelevant things.
NeverSeemsToEnd
Rising Newcomer
7 years ago
Humm...... Of course nothing is perfect in the sims 4 (maybe only the sims lives that are all unicorns and rainbows), I was so happy and excited with the trailer that i didn't notice this detail, hope that some guru tell that it's all false and snow have depth (almost sure that will not happen but....oh well) :disappointed:
thegreenplumbob
7 years ago
"ChelsPlaySims;c-16491790" wrote:
I don't care about snow depth or window fog. I'm just grateful that we got seasons and based on the trailer it looks like heaps of new CAS and build items. Some people just like to pick at EA for little, irrelevant things.

It's so upsetting - the hype and positivity surrounding seasons yesterday was so uplifting, it's always the negative comments that bring you down :( especially as I don't see this as being such a dramatic and fundamental flaw.
NeverSeemsToEnd
Rising Newcomer
7 years ago
"ChelsPlaySims;c-16491790" wrote:
I don't care about snow depth or window fog. I'm just grateful that we got seasons and based on the trailer it looks like heaps of new CAS and build items. Some people just like to pick at EA for little, irrelevant things.

Why should we be fine with less when we know we can have more. They did MFP because they knew people will buy anything they do, some people should be a little more picky.