https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei9Y3AFR0RwIn case you haven't seen, the Youtube Reveal of Kits is now at 5.1k likes and 6.6k dislikes. There is also a lot of backlash on other social media platforms and by GameChangers. To many people these Kits are overmonetization of a game with another three DLC types already. Do you think anyone from the team will adress the backlash? Do you think they will mostly ignore the backlash like they did with Batuu?

Ignore it, mostly. The dislikes of one relatively “small” group of dislikers means little to EA. Here’s why:On this very forum I’ve seen folks raging about how these “nonsense” kits are overpriced and promptly bought 1 or more packs from the moment they were available. EA got that money and doesn’t need to address it. I actually believe the kits are quite popular and there’s scope for them! I’m sure the team sold many already. A fiver overpriced? A fiver is something one would spend quicker than $10, $20, $40. Folks are desperate for new content and when you’re desperate a fiver doesn’t seem so bad. EA knows the psychology behind that, they were clear about that too and this is why these kits exist and will sell.

I love the kits. All the fun of the store without buying store credits first. I'm expecting some really fun ideas.

Kits seem to have ideas on existing packs. I don't think the backlash will be as bad as Batuu.Seems like Gamechangers are on the fence about it too and scared how much it will add up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM-wbpJIL1k

They didn't acknowledge JTB, Grant defended My First Pet Stuff by pointing at sales. I feel like they only listened to us last year because it took a multitude of things coming their way (criticism over how they've been handling representations, JtB, more and more accusations of not listening, criticism over the game that's been boiling over for years, etc.) And even then, it didn't lead to much beyond the skin tone stuff.I expect them to let people grumble about it until they get bored and give up. Then they'll pump out some more packs and kits until we're desensitized, before introducing "Bites;" bite-sized kits that cost 3 dollars and introduce 1 gameplay idea, one CASset and one BB item. EDIT: For the record, I'm not completely anti-kit. I think they could be a great idea, if they were appropriately priced. The three kits cost more than a Stuff Pack but have much less content than the latest ones. And a Kit consisting largely of recolored assets shouldn't be worth the same price as a Kit with new mechanics, animations and gameplay.

"Gordy;c-17823472" wrote:They didn't acknowledge JTB, Grant defended My First Pet Stuff by pointing at sales. I feel like they only listened to us last year because it took a multitude of things coming their way (criticism over how they've been handling representations, JtB, more and more accusations of not listening, criticism over the game that's been boiling over for years, etc.) And even then, it didn't lead to much beyond the skin tone stuff.I expect them to let people grumble about it until they get bored and give up. Then they'll pump out some more packs and kits until we're desensitized, before introducing "Bites;" bite-sized kits that cost 3 dollars and introduce 1 gameplay idea, one CASset and one BB item. I mean that is what SimsMobile and SimsFreeplay is already doing. Maybe next Sims game will just resort to mobile because microtransactions are working better than selling DLC it seems like at least to EA's viewpoint. I'd be shocked if the next iteration is an offline PC game because seems like EA is heading to a complete opposite direction for the future and kits kind of cement that future.

Sims 4 Kits Backlash incoming | EA Forums

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CAPTAIN_NXR7
Legend
5 years ago
Ignore it, mostly. The dislikes of one relatively “small” group of dislikers means little to EA. Here’s why:

On this very forum I’ve seen folks raging about how these “nonsense” kits are overpriced and promptly bought 1 or more packs from the moment they were available. EA got that money and doesn’t need to address it. I actually believe the kits are quite popular and there’s scope for them!

I’m sure the team sold many already. A fiver overpriced? A fiver is something one would spend quicker than $10, $20, $40. Folks are desperate for new content and when you’re desperate a fiver doesn’t seem so bad. EA knows the psychology behind that, they were clear about that too and this is why these kits exist and will sell.
kathmhughes
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I love the kits. All the fun of the store without buying store credits first. I'm expecting some really fun ideas.
Scobren
Legend
5 years ago
Kits seem to have ideas on existing packs. I don't think the backlash will be as bad as Batuu.

Seems like Gamechangers are on the fence about it too and scared how much it will add up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM-wbpJIL1k
Karamazov123
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
They didn't acknowledge JTB, Grant defended My First Pet Stuff by pointing at sales. I feel like they only listened to us last year because it took a multitude of things coming their way (criticism over how they've been handling representations, JtB, more and more accusations of not listening, criticism over the game that's been boiling over for years, etc.) And even then, it didn't lead to much beyond the skin tone stuff.

I expect them to let people grumble about it until they get bored and give up. Then they'll pump out some more packs and kits until we're desensitized, before introducing "Bites;" bite-sized kits that cost 3 dollars and introduce 1 gameplay idea, one CASset and one BB item.

EDIT: For the record, I'm not completely anti-kit. I think they could be a great idea, if they were appropriately priced. The three kits cost more than a Stuff Pack but have much less content than the latest ones. And a Kit consisting largely of recolored assets shouldn't be worth the same price as a Kit with new mechanics, animations and gameplay.
Scobren
Legend
5 years ago
"Gordy;c-17823472" wrote:
They didn't acknowledge JTB, Grant defended My First Pet Stuff by pointing at sales. I feel like they only listened to us last year because it took a multitude of things coming their way (criticism over how they've been handling representations, JtB, more and more accusations of not listening, criticism over the game that's been boiling over for years, etc.) And even then, it didn't lead to much beyond the skin tone stuff.

I expect them to let people grumble about it until they get bored and give up. Then they'll pump out some more packs and kits until we're desensitized, before introducing "Bites;" bite-sized kits that cost 3 dollars and introduce 1 gameplay idea, one CASset and one BB item.

I mean that is what SimsMobile and SimsFreeplay is already doing. Maybe next Sims game will just resort to mobile because microtransactions are working better than selling DLC it seems like at least to EA's viewpoint. I'd be shocked if the next iteration is an offline PC game because seems like EA is heading to a complete opposite direction for the future and kits kind of cement that future.
SimmerGeorge
5 years ago
"KathMHughes;c-17823465" wrote:
I love the kits. All the fun of the store without buying store credits first. I'm expecting some really fun ideas.

@KathMHughes On the other hand the Sims 3 Store also had huge backlash.
eternalrainn
5 years ago
"Scobre;c-17823474" wrote:
"Gordy;c-17823472" wrote:
They didn't acknowledge JTB, Grant defended My First Pet Stuff by pointing at sales. I feel like they only listened to us last year because it took a multitude of things coming their way (criticism over how they've been handling representations, JtB, more and more accusations of not listening, criticism over the game that's been boiling over for years, etc.) And even then, it didn't lead to much beyond the skin tone stuff.

I expect them to let people grumble about it until they get bored and give up. Then they'll pump out some more packs and kits until we're desensitized, before introducing "Bites;" bite-sized kits that cost 3 dollars and introduce 1 gameplay idea, one CASset and one BB item.

I mean that is what SimsMobile and SimsFreeplay is already doing. Maybe next Sims game will just resort to mobile because microtransactions are working better than selling DLC it seems like at least to EA's viewpoint. I'd be shocked if the next iteration is an offline PC game because seems like EA is heading to a complete opposite direction for the future and kits kind of cement that future.

I'd be willing to bet money Sims 5 will take on the mobile model.
Sharooonia
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I don’t know how much the kits cost in other countries but where I live they cost £4.99 each. I think that is actually a very reasonable price for what we get in the kits. I bought all three kits yesterday and I am very satisfied with them.
CAPTAIN_NXR7
Legend
5 years ago
"Scobre;c-17823466" wrote:
Kits seem to have ideas on existing packs. I don't think the backlash will be as bad as Batuu.

The backlash won’t even be close. Unlike Batuu, there’s also a lot more future potential for kits. I don’t think the price will change unless they’re sold as part of a pick and mix bundle. I would agree, it is strange to think that a “mere” CAS pack should have the same price tag as a gameplay kit. However, to a CAS creator who doesn’t care for an additional gameplay system, that $5 dollar may be a good way to spend on a kit with a couple of items they like. Same goes for builders. It doesn’t matter whether the content took less time to create. EA knows that too.

Adding different price tags to different kits will only confuse the customer. Folks find it much easier to work with simple subdivisions rather than a chaotic price list. It makes it easier for the customer to save and put that fiver aside for when they see a kit that suits their playstyle. Simplicity is key to keep a customer engaged. And often it has little to do with the content.

ETA: I also want to add, when a pack is $5, during a 50% sale $2.50 looks much more appealing to a customer than when the retail price is $2.50 and it’s on sale for $1.25. These last numbers are too close together. Working with a higher retail price will have more impact on sales, because the numbers actually look better to the eye. Especially if the customer is willing to spend $5 anyway. It makes them believe that they saved more.
Ancaryvan
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
"@Sharonia;c-17823493" wrote:
I don’t know how much the kits cost in other countries but where I live they cost £4.99 each. I think that is actually a very reasonable price for what we get in the kits. I bought all three kits yesterday and I am very satisfied with them.

:open_mouth: Oh my~~~ consider £ is larger than $US, that is truly a ripped off price by £2.00, same as $Cdn, since not much difference with $US in exchange, how~~ever, An Obligation of $Cdn 6.99 before Tax! Also you can check James Turner's reaction on Australian Price.

https://i.imgur.com/Y6DsjiW.png
Thank you @Gordy, for the picture.