So if you let a child starve, or get him/her an F in school, he/she will eventually be taken away by the social worker. I've been thinking about this since this morning, and I remember the one time I went into the tuning to check it out, and found this in the child-neglect tracker: 98476 LESS_OR_EQUAL ...wait, what? The child rescue is a death?This raises some serious implications about the social worker O.o... considering it's labeled a permanent death. Like they have some kind of annihilator that not only destroys the sim, but the ghost as well. Keeps costs down, I guess. Maybe I'd feel better about it if children who got taken away got added to the pool of potential walkby's instead of getting deleted...

Okay, who had the idea that a social worker should be labelled as a death type?!In my opinion it would be nicer if the child was added to the adoption list, so we could play another household and adopt the child there, which would retain all relationships and family ties.

And don't think that killing your kids via other means will save him from the social worker: he'll be more than happy to take ghosts, too. (Neglect and Netherworld are the only death types that bypass the can_die check). Ghosts returning to the netherworld and "dying" that way is fine; it makes sense. Dying from getting bad grades is just wrong.

Death by low grades :D what a society."Pancakesandwich;c-15763378" wrote:Okay, who had the idea that a social worker should be labelled as a death type?!In my opinion it would be nicer if the child was added to the adoption list, so we could play another household and adopt the child there, which would retain all relationships and family ties.Yes I remember how in the sims 2 if a kid was taken away from one household if you adopted with a latter household you could get the other households kid. I thought it was a really nice touch and now that we have a more connected world in that you can travel to all the different neighborhoods it makes sense that you could see your adopted out kids because well in real life kids don't just vanish off the face of the earth when the social workers come.(Or die, usually that isn't the goal of adoption programs cause that's awful)

"EnkiSchmidt;c-15763702" wrote:Technically it's a case of gameplay and story segregation. Storywise the children are supposed to go to some adoption center in another town, but in coding they took the easy way out.I didn't like this mechanic with it's unfortunate implications right from the beginning and would very much prefer the old adding to adoption pool solution from Sims 2 (and 3?). For some time there was a mod around that allowed children to die from starvation and leave a ghost so that they could be resurrected later. I think it's unsupported or broken now.@EnkiSchmidt If you mean the "Children can die of anything" mod, it's actually being updated on simsworkshop now. Just like all TS4 mods of that creator.https://simsworkshop.net/resources/simstopics-children-can-die-of-anything.33/

"Pancakesandwich;c-15764014" wrote:"EnkiSchmidt;c-15763702" wrote:Technically it's a case of gameplay and story segregation. Storywise the children are supposed to go to some adoption center in another town, but in coding they took the easy way out.I didn't like this mechanic with it's unfortunate implications right from the beginning and would very much prefer the old adding to adoption pool solution from Sims 2 (and 3?). For some time there was a mod around that allowed children to die from starvation and leave a ghost so that they could be resurrected later. I think it's unsupported or broken now.@EnkiSchmidt If you mean the "Children can die of anything" mod, it's actually being updated on simsworkshop now. Just like all TS4 mods of that creator.https://simsworkshop.net/resources/simstopics-children-can-die-of-anything.33/Yes, that's the one, thank you for posting the adress! I like how they keep the files for older game versions available (1.27 in my case).Crazy as it sounds, installing kids-killing mods is the way to keep them save :D

Something I've noticed about the social worker...

Pukitaki
6 years ago
> @Hadron1776 said:
> So if you let a child starve, or get him/her an F in school, he/she will eventually be taken away by the social worker. I've been thinking about this since this morning, and I remember the one time I went into the tuning to check it out, and found this in the child-neglect tracker: 98476 LESS_OR_EQUAL
>
> ...wait, what? The child rescue is a death?
> This raises some serious implications about the social worker O.o... considering it's labeled a permanent death. Like they have some kind of annihilator that not only destroys the sim, but the ghost as well. Keeps costs down, I guess. Maybe I'd feel better about it if children who got taken away got added to the pool of potential walkby's instead of getting deleted...

Like InsularFLY, I'd also like to know where you found this in the code. Which file is it in? If I don't get a reply, I may just have to go digging. I'm so sick of how they decided to handle Social Work and adoption, I'm thinking about making an overhaul...
Writin_Reg
6 years ago
"Pukitaki;c-17012235" wrote:
> @Hadron1776 said:
> So if you let a child starve, or get him/her an F in school, he/she will eventually be taken away by the social worker. I've been thinking about this since this morning, and I remember the one time I went into the tuning to check it out, and found this in the child-neglect tracker: 98476 LESS_OR_EQUAL
>
> ...wait, what? The child rescue is a death?
> This raises some serious implications about the social worker O.o... considering it's labeled a permanent death. Like they have some kind of annihilator that not only destroys the sim, but the ghost as well. Keeps costs down, I guess. Maybe I'd feel better about it if children who got taken away got added to the pool of potential walkby's instead of getting deleted...

Like InsularFLY, I'd also like to know where you found this in the code. Which file is it in? If I don't get a reply, I may just have to go digging. I'm so sick of how they decided to handle Social Work and adoption, I'm thinking about making an overhaul...

"Pukitaki;c-17012235" wrote:
> @Hadron1776 said:
> So if you let a child starve, or get him/her an F in school, he/she will eventually be taken away by the social worker. I've been thinking about this since this morning, and I remember the one time I went into the tuning to check it out, and found this in the child-neglect tracker: 98476 LESS_OR_EQUAL
>
> ...wait, what? The child rescue is a death?
> This raises some serious implications about the social worker O.o... considering it's labeled a permanent death. Like they have some kind of annihilator that not only destroys the sim, but the ghost as well. Keeps costs down, I guess. Maybe I'd feel better about it if children who got taken away got added to the pool of potential walkby's instead of getting deleted...

Like InsularFLY, I'd also like to know where you found this in the code. Which file is it in? If I don't get a reply, I may just have to go digging. I'm so sick of how they decided to handle Social Work and adoption, I'm thinking about making an overhaul...

Sims 1 was designed same way - like if the Sims child did badly in school they were taken away by the social worker and said to be sent to Military school - a school they never returned from and if you checked the files you would see that childs files were totally gone from the game permanently.

If a new born cried more than a few times - not long at all during the 3 days it was an enfant - the social worker would not only take the child away - again permanently - and on top of it would declar your Sims unfit parents and would not allow them to have another baby or adopt a child ever. In Sims 1 that was forever as there was no aging in the game - so you fail at kids you sort of didn't get a second chance.

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