Stuff packs ain't cheap.

"CK213;c-16376475" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-16375883" wrote:

"CK213;c-16375739" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-16375511" wrote:

"CK213;c-16375491" wrote:

"RnM92;c-16371163" wrote:
I miss the days when Sims Stuff Packs purely followed a decorative theme rather than made up lacking gameplay, followed two or three sub themes within that and had tons of objects, clothes and hair, wallpapers, floors and other building tools/objects. I know they were more expensive but not by much (£5 more than now), especially when you consider how much we got for that money. And because they were only decorative you didn't feel you were missing out on any gameplay if you didn't buy them.

Well I like it.
Each stuff pack has a theme and game play that supports the theme.
This adds more value to the pack and it doesn't hurt that it cost $10 instead of $20 as it did with The Sims 3.

Sims 3 came with 11 EP's though with loads of content/gameplay. Who even needed the SP's.

I did, because we had create-a-style and it just brought more stuff to get creative with.
I also had store content. This isn't about The Sims 3 anyway other than the obvious price difference.
No one needs stuff packs, they are just if you want more stuff to add to your game.

As a matter of fact people complained about stuff packs because they didn't offer any additional game play.
So now we have game play and another group of people complain about them having game play. :D

You made me look (thinking I misread something). You were bringing in Sims 3 there :o I disagree, you need SP’s for Sims 4 far more than for Sims 3. It was nothing but wallpaper in Sims 3 where for Sims 4 SP’s play a much more important part content wise. I don’t remember any complaints about SP’s not having gameplay. They were stuff packs, everybody knew they were. We got so much gameplay through EP’s, why would anyone need gameplay from SP’s back then?

I truly do not care who needs stuff packs more or less, nor did I suggest that any game did. All I said is TS4 has cheaper stuff packs.

I wanted a little game play with my stuff packs and I even made a thread in TS3 ideas and feedback about it.
And now we have it. People were always complaining about stuff packs and one of the arguments were that stuff packs added nothing to game play and were a waste of money. That's why I suggested the idea.

You really are hypersensitive about TS3.
Ironically, game play is the main reason why I would want a TS4 stuff pack now because with this art style and no create-a-style, I don't have much interest in TS4's blocky objects. I would rather use custom content. I don't want TS4 stuff packs for hair either. So in the end, the stuff packs have become less useful to me because of the art style. :p

Just game play and clothes. :D

Yes, that’s me, completely hypersensitive and overprotective and not in any way trying to make an objective argument. I’m not talking about Sims 3, you were, in an attempt to explain away EA’s current marketing tricks. Because Sims 3 and Sims 4, they’re both nothing more than the products of the very same company.

All I’m saying is that when you offer something cheaper but make it more essential to buy, that matters. In no way am I saying SP’s for Sims 3 weren’t a rip off, cause they were. It was much easier to tell EA so by not buying them though without missing out on anything, that’s all I’m saying (same with the Store) because they didn’t add any gameplay. They were a rip off and they had rip off written all over them. Where Sims 4’s SP’s scream: “I’m cheap, I’m cheap, and I don’t just have stuff, I also contain gameplay (that will become a bore after you’ve done it twice but I’m not going to tell you that) and did I mention I’m cheap? I’m cheap!”

By no means am I implying you shouldn’t buy and enjoy those ennobled stuff packs. But they’re not cheap just because SP’s in the predecessor (you could easily skip but definitely were overpriced) were more expensive. That’s counting yourself rich.

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"CK213;c-16376524" wrote:

"lele62;c-16376504" wrote:

"kaywilliams;c-16376478" wrote:
Sims 3 had a store though. They were sold by the sets. And that stuff was not cheap.

True, but you could buy exactly what you wanted -- often even just one item instead of an entire set.

That's what I liked about The TS3 Store.
And with all these TS4 stuff packs the amount of content is catching up with the TS3 store.
Unfortunately we can't buy only the items we want.

I am with the OP for that reason though.
This is a ridiculous amount of stuff packs and I can understand people being annoyed with game play tied to them because of EA milking it.
I would rather see an extra game pack a year than 4 stuff packs.

Huh? Ok, we seem to agree then.