The Sims 4 Feedback Thread - come share yours

**What you liked**

- The CAS options are great. Being able to choose personality traits, while positive, that have both positive and negative moodlets and perks is fantastic. Also, the body/feature customization is very good. However, there should be a height option! As well as teens being slightly smaller.

- Again from the personality side of it, the depth and quality of interaction between sims of varying demeanor is great. I actually have to "get to know" and see what the personality traits of sim I'm interacting with, and think about my actions accordingly to avoid a negative conversation. As opposed to just spamming various interactions until someone is happy enough or flirty enough.

- The build mode is wonderful! Being able to just place rooms (furnished or unfurnished), just grab walls and drag them, and increase their height. Having the build and buy options in 1 tab definitely makes it easier. Many many perks within the new building/buying options... like searching for an item, or going to rooms, or categories. Well done.

- I've only really messed around in depth with botany thus far (and a tad cooking/programming), but the various actions and detail in growing, splicing, harvesting etc is fantastic! (as well as gourmet in cooking, and all the different options of programming/hacking in tech).

- No grocery shopping?! Frees up some time, and sims wont freak out and starve if you forget to restock. However, it does kinda take away from it.

- The timer shown on food serving decay is extremely helpful.

- How sims tend to all flock to the same location when eating on their own for socialization.

- The cellphone!

- Being able to UPGRADE things like the fridge door, faucets, flushing, sanitary, etc. on varying appliances! yes. Thank you.

- MAGICAL TREES!

**What you didn't like**

- First and foremost... Needs decay. It's definitely way too fast. I spend more time chasing needs decay than I do anything else. Makes it feel more monotonous and less fun and freeing. Less ability to increase skills, explore, and interact with other sims/build relationships.

- Why the hell do my sims keep walking into a bathroom with another sim on the toilet. Do they not know what closed doors are? Please just make them wave their hands and yell that the door is closed instead... many many embarrassments. A tad too much. One of my major playing frustrations... which leads into the next V...

- When canceling an action (either misclick, or no please don't walk into the bathroom with someone in there), The sims will still walk ALL THE WAY to their original destination, then stop to turn around... Instead of just stopping right where they are, and canceling the action.

- No basements. *disappointed face*

- No work cars.... i don't care about the cars so much, but my sims have missed so much work from this. I miss my honking. A side note to that, it is great that they're able to just go to work late. At least they can still go even if they're late! BUT....

---- With work, there's a serious bug where my sims will become stuck and greyed out.

- Can't see needs decay and fill while they're at work? Very very big dislike for that one. I liked being able to que up actions when they're about to return home from work.

- The inventory is one big disastrous mess! Please give some sorting method to that. How am I going to find anything among a couple hundred random quantity stacks of... just.. stuff?

- ^ and what the hell do I do with the million things harvested (other than fertilizer)?

- Dragging and dropping each book from the inventory into the book shelf after buying like 20 of them.

- The world is currently pretty boring, and the loading screens are frequent and long (However, bare in mind that the world may be more boring to me because I chase needs decay more than being able to do anything else).

- Did you know when you plop a triangle room and try to adjust it in any way it will not stay a triangle? Makes the triangle room tool pretty null and void when you just have to do it yourself anyways.

**********- Annnddddd... alarm is going off... my house is burning down. Where is the fire department?

**Suggestions?**

- Just do exactly what you're doing. See the pros and cons from the player base and adjust accordingly.

- Seasons.

- More depth to the world (like sims freeplay has). The upgrading of world locations.

**Overall thoughts?**

- Was there no beta? The games current state has some serious bugs, to a point of being unplayable for some (3 of my sims have been "stuck" at work, greyed out tab, can't see needs, yet they're home. Had to start a new household.). There are a lot of good things going, but not having a "storyline" like the beginning of sims3 killed a lot of the joy in first playing for me (as well as made it much harder to learn everything). Not going to lie, not having some storyline families with pre-set goals was a very sad point in beginning my gameplay. There's a lot of things that have no information (example, what the heck is up with the mega-scrolling list of individual, 2 stack, 5 stack, 8 stack, 70 stack etc random plants in my botanists inventory? I understand fertilizer, but otherwise what the hell do I do with them? Or all the random stuff I find by digging?). Not to mention the inventory is a complete disaster zone. Desperately needs some form of organization. Some serious love went into the game in some parts, but got neglected in others. It has the potential to be fun and blow S3 out of the water, but not in its current state.

Likes...

I like the small neighborhoods. The game runs and loads much faster than it ever did, which I appreciate. It's also very easy to find where Sims are congregating and to take my Sim out to meet new people.

The new UI is sleek, and I appreciate the way needs are managed - less in-your-face, but you can still see when a Sim has some urgent need.

The fact that events affect your Sim's interactions and even her demeanor is very cool!

The game looks amazing. Lighting is much better than TS3, too. I hear some people complain about cartoony graphics, but it doesn't bother me - I like the stylized look.

Love the new CAS. Mostly.

The overhaul to build mode is, for the most part, amazing. Makes building SO much easier.

Dislikes...

By far the thing that's bothering me most is how little my Sims react to major events like births, deaths, infidelity, etc. When my Sim family's first child was born, the father panicked for a few seconds, then went about his business and ignored the birth. Yes, he had a New Baby moodlet, but so what? It didn't seem to affect him in any way.

Maybe it's silly, but ever since TS3 I've missed the cut scenes from TS2. They always made me feel like I was being rewarded with a little show to honor a major event like a first kiss, marriage, birth, etc.

I REALLY miss the ability to edit color selections with hex codes and/or color palette. It's impossible to coordinate clothing and decor without it sometimes. Please, in the name of all that is simly, bring it back.

Although I like the small neighborhoods, having only two towns makes the world feel very small right now. I understand that Maxis needed to scale back in order to accomplish an ambitious revamp of the base game, but I do feel a little cheated at having paid $70 for a game where there's so little for my Sims to do. Consider adding a new town as a free update ASAP.

More stuff! The game feels a little "light" right now. I miss little things like dart boards and activities that Sims can participate in as a group. (You know, it would be cool if my Sim could put a pack of playing cards in his inventory and then start up a card game with his friends!)

Overall, I love the revamp of the game systems, but I worry that the current game is a little light on content and Simmers will get bored quickly unless we get some major updates. I only just started playing at launch, and already I'm very eager for the first expansion.

What you liked
- I really enjoy how emotive the sims are. A lot of the romantic interactions (once you get there) are super adorable.
- Build mode is a completely new beast to me, but I like that I can just push and pull on the house and move rooms around if I need to rebuild it.
- I actually enjoy the smaller 'worlds'. I like that the neighborhoods are open world. It cuts down on lag and helps retains some of that open world feel from TS3.
- I like the multitasking and the cute interactions that come from it.
- I like the art style and the game is generally fun to play.

What you didn't like
- I'm finding that it seems like the needs are overtuned. They fall just a little too fast, and the sims insist on sleeping the minute their energy bar is in the yellow. It's really frustrating when the sims stop what they're doing just to go nap for four hours.
- The above might be because the game runs significantly faster than the TS3 and I'm used to days taking a good fifteen to twenty minutes, without lag spikes.
- Sims tend to just stop what they're doing and go do something else, which is really frustrating if your trying to get your sim to read from a book.
- Emotions get a bit over powering sometimes, and it's super hard to send my kids to school energized, even with taking a brisk shower fifteen minutes before they leave.
- The lack of cars or buses, even just as decor when they go to work is a little off putting. The sims just sort of go to the street and vanish.
- The dynamic lighting is nice, but the lights are no where near bright enough to make good use of it.
- This is nitpicky but, there aren't any colored hair for kids! My sims have green hair and their two kids have red and brown because there aren't any green (or any other dyed colors) for kids.

Suggestions?
- Tune down the motive drops. My sims should not be at half energy after four hours awake, or completely exhausted after going to work or school.
- I'd like the ability to set specific age lengths.
- I'd like the ability to set something like 'High' free will, instead of just "full" and "off".
- More color options. While I don't mind the lack of CASt, some of your color options are... really hard to match together.

Overall thoughts?
- I find the game to be really fun, but I seem to get super frustrated when all my sims want to do is sleep and not actually do anything I tell them too. It's a lot more micromanaging because if I don't, either the sims never stop playing chess or they don't do anything productive except watch TV and sleep. In TS3 I felt find leaving my sims to their business once I have them things to do. Here they're just a little too automous for me right now, especially when you get four or more sims in a house. Otherwise, I do enjoy the game and excited to see what expansions get released for it.

Great thread guys. Going to take a bit to sort through all of this.

Ok I gave sims 4 a try and I have to say it has good bones but no meat. I can see that the game could be great but it is just not there yet for me.
I spend 11 hours of game play and I must say that it looks fresh and nice. The sims emotions was a cute touch and some of the animation that went along with that was great. I love how the sims interact with each other and how you can really tell when two sims are in love. The pregnancy also was great my sim was in labor for two days before she went to the hospital to have the baby although husband never reacted to sim being in labor or birth of the child. The game ran smooth and the loading screens was fairly quick although it did crash once for me. I love the way the babies look and move it was such a shame that they are connected to bassinets. I didn't enjoy any of the community lots except for 1 park was pretty and I had fun there. I played most of the time on my home lot and that is not what I like to do when playing the sims. The world seemed very small to me maybe I am spoiled with the Sims 3 and the massive stuff you could do. I do understand this is a base game but so many things I love from the sims is missing a big one is the toddlers and family tree. I played as far as my baby aging straight to a child and then decided I will wait for the whole game before I give it a go anymore. I am glad that orgin offers the refund. I felt like I was playing a demo not a full game. I will get sims 4 when they put in the toddlers and family stuff and more community lots but it is back to the sims 3 for me. Usually when the base game comes out I move on to the new when sims 3 came out I never looked back to the sims 2 but to much was missing and sims 3 was to great for me to move on at this time.

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What you liked: I liked that you can do so many interactions with other sims and multitask. Also, the building is pretty awesome.

What you didn't like: I DIDN'T like that there was no school on the map, no hospital, and how fast paced the needs and such are. Edit: (I figured out how to make 1 person move out of a 4 person household, Yay!)

Suggestions?: I WANT to see the return of almost every feature from sims 3 that got removed... Multiple floor foundation levels for a garage (doesn't have to be just a garage...) that is to the ground (Just for looks or having workout equipment in it, because we lost cars and awesome easy traveling...)

Overall thoughts? It lost more features than it gained... Its not really good... 5/10

Edit: This game just keeps on getting worse... The door mechanics are completely removed which means that you cannot lock them or when you have a solid door for a bathroom sims can still see through it (I learned this the hard way.) Also, Testingcheats was stripped down to where there is no use except aging and the CAS part of the cheat SHOULD have full body manipulation. :'( (Please, don't make us buy the features that should have already been in the base game).

What I like
- I like the sims themselves. I think they have a lot of personality. They're very cute and some of the animations are quite nice.
- I like multitasking.
- I like the fact that the sims seem more drawn to each other than before and that they will autonomously socialize quite often.
- CAS is great. So is build mode.
- I like the fact that you can now use a search in build/buy.
- I like how detailed some of the skills are

What I don't like
- Tiny worlds. 5 houses on a block broken up by loading screens and fake houses in the background. The world feels too small to me.
- Camera controls are extremely frustrating.
- Annoying spammy notifications and general intrusiveness. All of the pop-ups, the music when emotions change, the level up notification, the white outline around things. It's too hand-holdy and in-your-face.
- Too many unlockables. Unlocakble beds, chairs, lamps, and everything else. Too much.
- Lack of NPCs and other features. I'm really disappointed that there's no firefighter, police officer, or burglar anymore. It's dull.
- Lack of more normal jobs. Hospital workers, military personnel, educators, etc. aren't represented anymore.
- General lack of... well, gameplay. It doesn't feel like there's much for sims to do in this game besides socialize with each other.
- Too much teleporting, warping, and poofing to places. I hate that my sim teleports to work. I hate that their baby poofs back and forth from daycare to home. Or that he poofed into the house out of thin air when he was born.
- Smartphone is OP.
- And, yeah, I miss CASt, toddlers, pools, etc.

What I have mixed feelings about
- Emotions. There are some nice little surprises with new interactions brought on by emotional traits. But, they just don't draw me in as a whole. Not with my play style.

Suggestions?
- Remember that this game has an eclectic fan base. Remember that a lot of us are creators and family players. Don't shut us out. Oh, and please add more lots to the neighborhoods and more interactive objects. Our sims need more ways to have fun!

Overall thoughts?
- It's ok. But, it feels like too basic an approach. TS3 focused on the world nearly at the expense of the sims themselves. I feel like TS4 does the opposite.

> @Slimysumocow said:
you can't have one sim move out of a house with three people in the current household, and how fast paced the needs and such are.


Yes you can, use the manage household option.

i dont want to be mean, but...
the negative aspects of the game are much more than then the positive ones...
The positives are only the emotions and the multitasking... its the only thing we heard from you for month... you only talked about emotions, and the way they behave... and thats realy good, i enjoyed it, realy... but now...
I can't say that there are a lot of bad things, but i CAN say that the bad things that exist.. well they are aweful!... the pools were a problem but i had no idea of another thing until i bought the game and played it... actualy i think that (for me) the game isnt worth playing anymore because of this big mistake: there is no open world anymore... when i saw this i cryed my money so hard... having loads everytime you go to another part of the city, to another house...in the neighborhood?! god, that was realy bad.. seriously... that destroyed the game... and with that so many things were lost... no cars... come on, the main achievements people wanted were ''Be rich, have a gigant house and have an expensive top car!''... i dont know if there is an expansion that can save the game from something like this... because this is a HUGE fail.... Honestly, im very disapointed... All the good things that came with sims 3 are now destroyed... think better next time...