The Sims 4 will continue into 2018!

"Erpe;c-16234191" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-16234165" wrote:

"TS1299;c-16234043" wrote:

"divine56;c-16233925" wrote:
> @TheGoodOldGamer said:
> The gurus have made it pretty clear they intend to support this game longer than any other in the series. Obviously other circumstances can come up to change those plans at some point, but part of the whole live service thing is to make updating easier n all that. The gallery has done a lot to promote creativity within the community as well.
>
> I get the feeling a lot of the doom n gloom is propagated by people not wanting/not liking the idea of further support, rather than any actual evidence to back up such claims.

The Sims 4 should end and they should revive the Sims 3, which is by far the best game of the serie. I don't know why it should be the longest game that they will support, it makes no sense!

Just because you don't want the game it doesn't mean they should end it. A lot of people bought The Sims 4 because they loved the game and and they are hoping for EA/Maxis to return the features they loves from previous games such as Seasons and Universities in the game. Scrap the game as soon as possible and market The Sims 5 will result to angry fans, and many will boycott the Sims 5 seeing that EA may not give a game that is expanded to its fullest. Add the controversy that the publisher had with Star Wars Battlefront II, Mass Effect Andromeda, and UFC 3, a lot are already boycotting EA, and if EA release Sims 5 without expanding Sims 4 to its fullest potential, angry fans will result to boycotting of Sims 5 which will result to the end of this franchise. It may be a waste of money for you but for others it wasn't.

If EA can release a rushed, sloppy offline game built in less than two years from an low quality online game why on earth would players boycott The Sims 5? Clearly you don’t understand how easily people are sold on Sims things.

They could release a Sims 5 that was worse than 4 and people would still buy it, and some people would still defend the bad choices made for it.

If you only count the time from the first announcement of a new basegame to the actual release of the basegame then all the basegames for TS2, TS3 and TS4 were made in only 15 months for each basegame. So there isn’t anything new there ;)

But I think that we all know that each new basegame took longer time than this. So why didn’t EA announce them earlier? Well, I think that the reason always was that in the early stages the developers are mainly just experimenting and everything can therefore change. EA then likely doesn’t want to announce anything before EA at least knows some of the main new things to be included in the game.

Simmers wouldn’t likely buy the new game if it became too similar to one of the previous games. So EA just want the games to be as different as possible. But then most simmers just buy all the games and even all the cheap SPs out of curiosity. EA sure knows this :)

@Erpe I am not counting the months from announcement to release. Back when TS4 first launched, and the Guru’s used to hold Q&A sessions, one of them told us that The Sims 4 was in development for about a year and a half, two years max. That post is probably buried 10 feet deep by now, but that was in essence their way of admitting that the offline game was not in development for very long. A little nod to the fact that The Sims 4 spent most of its development time as a completely different game, leaving little time for big changes when they dropped online.

You also don’t need to post a timeline at all. No Sims game was completely developed in 1-2 years, even Sims 4. However their mention of 1.5-2 years was a nod to the game spending most of its development as an online game, which is something they have never been allowed to confirm directly. I know you have a hard time believing that, don’t know why, but it’s old news regardless.

"drake_mccarty;c-16235443" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16234191" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-16234165" wrote:

"TS1299;c-16234043" wrote:

"divine56;c-16233925" wrote:
> @TheGoodOldGamer said:
> The gurus have made it pretty clear they intend to support this game longer than any other in the series. Obviously other circumstances can come up to change those plans at some point, but part of the whole live service thing is to make updating easier n all that. The gallery has done a lot to promote creativity within the community as well.
>
> I get the feeling a lot of the doom n gloom is propagated by people not wanting/not liking the idea of further support, rather than any actual evidence to back up such claims.

The Sims 4 should end and they should revive the Sims 3, which is by far the best game of the serie. I don't know why it should be the longest game that they will support, it makes no sense!

Just because you don't want the game it doesn't mean they should end it. A lot of people bought The Sims 4 because they loved the game and and they are hoping for EA/Maxis to return the features they loves from previous games such as Seasons and Universities in the game. Scrap the game as soon as possible and market The Sims 5 will result to angry fans, and many will boycott the Sims 5 seeing that EA may not give a game that is expanded to its fullest. Add the controversy that the publisher had with Star Wars Battlefront II, Mass Effect Andromeda, and UFC 3, a lot are already boycotting EA, and if EA release Sims 5 without expanding Sims 4 to its fullest potential, angry fans will result to boycotting of Sims 5 which will result to the end of this franchise. It may be a waste of money for you but for others it wasn't.

If EA can release a rushed, sloppy offline game built in less than two years from an low quality online game why on earth would players boycott The Sims 5? Clearly you don’t understand how easily people are sold on Sims things.

They could release a Sims 5 that was worse than 4 and people would still buy it, and some people would still defend the bad choices made for it.

If you only count the time from the first announcement of a new basegame to the actual release of the basegame then all the basegames for TS2, TS3 and TS4 were made in only 15 months for each basegame. So there isn’t anything new there ;)

But I think that we all know that each new basegame took longer time than this. So why didn’t EA announce them earlier? Well, I think that the reason always was that in the early stages the developers are mainly just experimenting and everything can therefore change. EA then likely doesn’t want to announce anything before EA at least knows some of the main new things to be included in the game.

Simmers wouldn’t likely buy the new game if it became too similar to one of the previous games. So EA just want the games to be as different as possible. But then most simmers just buy all the games and even all the cheap SPs out of curiosity. EA sure knows this :)

@Erpe I am not counting the months from announcement to release. Back when TS4 first launched, and the Guru’s used to hold Q&A sessions, one of them told us that The Sims 4 was in development for about a year and a half, two years max. That post is probably buried 10 feet deep by now, but that was in essence their way of admitting that the offline game was not in development for very long. A little nod to the fact that The Sims 4 spent most of its development time as a completely different game, leaving little time for big changes when they dropped online.

You also don’t need to post a timeline at all. No Sims game was completely developed in 1-2 years, even Sims 4. However their mention of 1.5-2 years was a nod to the game spending most of its development as an online game, which is something they have never been allowed to confirm directly. I know you have a hard time believing that, don’t know why, but it’s old news regardless.

According to http://honeywellsims4news.tumblr.com/post/63437610043/more-corroboration-for-patrick-kelly-the-sims-4 development on TS4 started already in 2008 and Patrick Kelley tells on this link that he only knew its development until 2012 where he stopped working on the game. So it seems that the development of TS4 even started before TS3 was released. I think that this tells better than anything else that EA plans quite exactly when each new basegame should be released many years before they tell us about it and that the basegames are planned to be released every 5 years.

Simmers seem to not understand this and to believe that the developers know exactly how to make the next Sims game even before they actually begin working on it. But I am quite sure that the opposite is true and that the reason a new basegame takes so many years to develop is that they don’t know anything when they start - except that the next big Sims game has to be very different from all previous released games and to have a new main focus. To obtain that they then have to make a lot of experiments and to come up with a lot of ideas which they then later can choose between. For the Sims 4 Olympus was just one of those ideas. But still an idea that they most likely dropped at an early stage of TS4’s development. (I just don’t think that EA’s top managers ever would have allowed them to drop something that they had worked so much on as most simmers seem to believe and even without firing some of the responsible producers!)

"Erpe;c-16235502" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-16235443" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16234191" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-16234165" wrote:

"TS1299;c-16234043" wrote:

"divine56;c-16233925" wrote:
> @TheGoodOldGamer said:
> The gurus have made it pretty clear they intend to support this game longer than any other in the series. Obviously other circumstances can come up to change those plans at some point, but part of the whole live service thing is to make updating easier n all that. The gallery has done a lot to promote creativity within the community as well.
>
> I get the feeling a lot of the doom n gloom is propagated by people not wanting/not liking the idea of further support, rather than any actual evidence to back up such claims.

The Sims 4 should end and they should revive the Sims 3, which is by far the best game of the serie. I don't know why it should be the longest game that they will support, it makes no sense!

Just because you don't want the game it doesn't mean they should end it. A lot of people bought The Sims 4 because they loved the game and and they are hoping for EA/Maxis to return the features they loves from previous games such as Seasons and Universities in the game. Scrap the game as soon as possible and market The Sims 5 will result to angry fans, and many will boycott the Sims 5 seeing that EA may not give a game that is expanded to its fullest. Add the controversy that the publisher had with Star Wars Battlefront II, Mass Effect Andromeda, and UFC 3, a lot are already boycotting EA, and if EA release Sims 5 without expanding Sims 4 to its fullest potential, angry fans will result to boycotting of Sims 5 which will result to the end of this franchise. It may be a waste of money for you but for others it wasn't.

If EA can release a rushed, sloppy offline game built in less than two years from an low quality online game why on earth would players boycott The Sims 5? Clearly you don’t understand how easily people are sold on Sims things.

They could release a Sims 5 that was worse than 4 and people would still buy it, and some people would still defend the bad choices made for it.

If you only count the time from the first announcement of a new basegame to the actual release of the basegame then all the basegames for TS2, TS3 and TS4 were made in only 15 months for each basegame. So there isn’t anything new there ;)

But I think that we all know that each new basegame took longer time than this. So why didn’t EA announce them earlier? Well, I think that the reason always was that in the early stages the developers are mainly just experimenting and everything can therefore change. EA then likely doesn’t want to announce anything before EA at least knows some of the main new things to be included in the game.

Simmers wouldn’t likely buy the new game if it became too similar to one of the previous games. So EA just want the games to be as different as possible. But then most simmers just buy all the games and even all the cheap SPs out of curiosity. EA sure knows this :)

@Erpe I am not counting the months from announcement to release. Back when TS4 first launched, and the Guru’s used to hold Q&A sessions, one of them told us that The Sims 4 was in development for about a year and a half, two years max. That post is probably buried 10 feet deep by now, but that was in essence their way of admitting that the offline game was not in development for very long. A little nod to the fact that The Sims 4 spent most of its development time as a completely different game, leaving little time for big changes when they dropped online.

You also don’t need to post a timeline at all. No Sims game was completely developed in 1-2 years, even Sims 4. However their mention of 1.5-2 years was a nod to the game spending most of its development as an online game, which is something they have never been allowed to confirm directly. I know you have a hard time believing that, don’t know why, but it’s old news regardless.

According to http://honeywellsims4news.tumblr.com/post/63437610043/more-corroboration-for-patrick-kelly-the-sims-4 development on TS4 started already in 2008 and Patrick Kelley tells on this link that he only knew its development until 2012 where he stopped working on the game. So it seems that the development of TS4 even started before TS3 was released. I think that this tells better than anything else that EA plans quite exactly when each new basegame should be released many years before they tell us about it and that the basegames are planned to be released every 5 years.

Simmers seem to not understand this and to believe that the developers know exactly how to make the next Sims game even before they actually begin working on it. But I am quite sure that the opposite is true and that the reason a new basegame takes so many years to develop is that they don’t know anything when they start - except that the next big Sims game has to be very different from all previous released games and to have a new main focus. To obtain that they then have to make a lot of experiments and to come up with a lot of ideas which they then later can choose between. For the Sims 4 Olympus was just one of those ideas. But still an idea that they most likely dropped at an early stage of TS4’s development. (I just don’t think that EA’s top managers ever would have allowed them to drop something that they had worked so much on as most simmers seem to believe and even without firing some of the responsible producers!)

Erpe - PK was part of the team that worked on the original game engine - not the game itself by the way.

"@Writin_Reg;c-16235704" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16235502" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-16235443" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16234191" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-16234165" wrote:

"TS1299;c-16234043" wrote:

"divine56;c-16233925" wrote:
> @TheGoodOldGamer said:
> The gurus have made it pretty clear they intend to support this game longer than any other in the series. Obviously other circumstances can come up to change those plans at some point, but part of the whole live service thing is to make updating easier n all that. The gallery has done a lot to promote creativity within the community as well.
>
> I get the feeling a lot of the doom n gloom is propagated by people not wanting/not liking the idea of further support, rather than any actual evidence to back up such claims.

The Sims 4 should end and they should revive the Sims 3, which is by far the best game of the serie. I don't know why it should be the longest game that they will support, it makes no sense!

Just because you don't want the game it doesn't mean they should end it. A lot of people bought The Sims 4 because they loved the game and and they are hoping for EA/Maxis to return the features they loves from previous games such as Seasons and Universities in the game. Scrap the game as soon as possible and market The Sims 5 will result to angry fans, and many will boycott the Sims 5 seeing that EA may not give a game that is expanded to its fullest. Add the controversy that the publisher had with Star Wars Battlefront II, Mass Effect Andromeda, and UFC 3, a lot are already boycotting EA, and if EA release Sims 5 without expanding Sims 4 to its fullest potential, angry fans will result to boycotting of Sims 5 which will result to the end of this franchise. It may be a waste of money for you but for others it wasn't.

If EA can release a rushed, sloppy offline game built in less than two years from an low quality online game why on earth would players boycott The Sims 5? Clearly you don’t understand how easily people are sold on Sims things.

They could release a Sims 5 that was worse than 4 and people would still buy it, and some people would still defend the bad choices made for it.

If you only count the time from the first announcement of a new basegame to the actual release of the basegame then all the basegames for TS2, TS3 and TS4 were made in only 15 months for each basegame. So there isn’t anything new there ;)

But I think that we all know that each new basegame took longer time than this. So why didn’t EA announce them earlier? Well, I think that the reason always was that in the early stages the developers are mainly just experimenting and everything can therefore change. EA then likely doesn’t want to announce anything before EA at least knows some of the main new things to be included in the game.

Simmers wouldn’t likely buy the new game if it became too similar to one of the previous games. So EA just want the games to be as different as possible. But then most simmers just buy all the games and even all the cheap SPs out of curiosity. EA sure knows this :)

@Erpe I am not counting the months from announcement to release. Back when TS4 first launched, and the Guru’s used to hold Q&A sessions, one of them told us that The Sims 4 was in development for about a year and a half, two years max. That post is probably buried 10 feet deep by now, but that was in essence their way of admitting that the offline game was not in development for very long. A little nod to the fact that The Sims 4 spent most of its development time as a completely different game, leaving little time for big changes when they dropped online.

You also don’t need to post a timeline at all. No Sims game was completely developed in 1-2 years, even Sims 4. However their mention of 1.5-2 years was a nod to the game spending most of its development as an online game, which is something they have never been allowed to confirm directly. I know you have a hard time believing that, don’t know why, but it’s old news regardless.

According to http://honeywellsims4news.tumblr.com/post/63437610043/more-corroboration-for-patrick-kelly-the-sims-4 development on TS4 started already in 2008 and Patrick Kelley tells on this link that he only knew its development until 2012 where he stopped working on the game. So it seems that the development of TS4 even started before TS3 was released. I think that this tells better than anything else that EA plans quite exactly when each new basegame should be released many years before they tell us about it and that the basegames are planned to be released every 5 years.

Simmers seem to not understand this and to believe that the developers know exactly how to make the next Sims game even before they actually begin working on it. But I am quite sure that the opposite is true and that the reason a new basegame takes so many years to develop is that they don’t know anything when they start - except that the next big Sims game has to be very different from all previous released games and to have a new main focus. To obtain that they then have to make a lot of experiments and to come up with a lot of ideas which they then later can choose between. For the Sims 4 Olympus was just one of those ideas. But still an idea that they most likely dropped at an early stage of TS4’s development. (I just don’t think that EA’s top managers ever would have allowed them to drop something that they had worked so much on as most simmers seem to believe and even without firing some of the responsible producers!)

Erpe - PK was part of the team that worked on the original game engine - not the game itself by the way.

I’m almost certain the game Patrick Kelly worked on isn’t even The Sims 4.

Patrick Kelly said EA were working on two games, Olympus and Icarus. He said he worked on Olympus.

On the Honeywell interview, he admits they went with an entirely new engine for The Sims 4, rather than the one he worked on (Olympus). Which if they were working on 2 games, leaves Icarus.

However, everyone seems to ignore this HUGE detail, just because Olympus is referenced in the game files.



Apparently, we’re supposed to believe that a massive MMO hosting hundreds of players was supposed to fit inside Willow Creek and Oasis Springs.

Which I find a little hard to believe.

Well, there is that pre-production concept video floating online. It doesn't seem to be an MMO. Just one where you can visit your friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsx-pgwMYew

"Simsfan99111;c-16200516" wrote:

"jackjack_k;c-16198664" wrote:

"@SeaSide;c-16198125" wrote:

"TheGoodOldGamer;c-15663310" wrote:
The gurus have made it pretty clear they intend to support this game longer than any other in the series. Obviously other circumstances can come up to change those plans at some point, but part of the whole live service thing is to make updating easier n all that. The gallery has done a lot to promote creativity within the community as well.

I honestly think Sims 4 will end in 2020. It's a new decade, and they might want to focus solely and mainly on Sims 5, so it's not half-baked like Sims 4 was when it came out. But they might add a few stuff packs when they have time. That's just what I think will happen, I still think Sims 4 needs university and seasons EPs and has lots of potential.

They would have to be hard at work on the game now if we want to see it by 2020.

We knew when The Sims 4 went to work, because a lot of the Guru’s stopped working on Sims 3 things, and were kind of there but not really.

This hasn’t happened yet, so unless they’re ditching everyone on The Sims and getting a brand new team, my assumption is we won’t see The Sims 5 till around 2022 at the earliest. They’d need 4 years to develop a new base game.

I expect next year we’ll start seeing Guru’s shuffle around and then some of them will start working on “future content”

I still think the sims get rebooted, a new name or it will just go back to "The SIms" and drop the number. They cant go 5,6,7,8 etc forever lol well they can of course but thats alot of numbers.

EA BOUGHT THE DOMAIN for the Sims to the Sims 10 back in 2003, and update it every June 18th so we will see at least through the Sims 10 before any reboot in the title at the very least.

"jackjack_k;c-16235737" wrote:

"@Writin_Reg;c-16235704" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16235502" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-16235443" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16234191" wrote:

"drake_mccarty;c-16234165" wrote:

"TS1299;c-16234043" wrote:

"divine56;c-16233925" wrote:
> @TheGoodOldGamer said:
> The gurus have made it pretty clear they intend to support this game longer than any other in the series. Obviously other circumstances can come up to change those plans at some point, but part of the whole live service thing is to make updating easier n all that. The gallery has done a lot to promote creativity within the community as well.
>
> I get the feeling a lot of the doom n gloom is propagated by people not wanting/not liking the idea of further support, rather than any actual evidence to back up such claims.

The Sims 4 should end and they should revive the Sims 3, which is by far the best game of the serie. I don't know why it should be the longest game that they will support, it makes no sense!

Just because you don't want the game it doesn't mean they should end it. A lot of people bought The Sims 4 because they loved the game and and they are hoping for EA/Maxis to return the features they loves from previous games such as Seasons and Universities in the game. Scrap the game as soon as possible and market The Sims 5 will result to angry fans, and many will boycott the Sims 5 seeing that EA may not give a game that is expanded to its fullest. Add the controversy that the publisher had with Star Wars Battlefront II, Mass Effect Andromeda, and UFC 3, a lot are already boycotting EA, and if EA release Sims 5 without expanding Sims 4 to its fullest potential, angry fans will result to boycotting of Sims 5 which will result to the end of this franchise. It may be a waste of money for you but for others it wasn't.

If EA can release a rushed, sloppy offline game built in less than two years from an low quality online game why on earth would players boycott The Sims 5? Clearly you don’t understand how easily people are sold on Sims things.

They could release a Sims 5 that was worse than 4 and people would still buy it, and some people would still defend the bad choices made for it.

If you only count the time from the first announcement of a new basegame to the actual release of the basegame then all the basegames for TS2, TS3 and TS4 were made in only 15 months for each basegame. So there isn’t anything new there ;)

But I think that we all know that each new basegame took longer time than this. So why didn’t EA announce them earlier? Well, I think that the reason always was that in the early stages the developers are mainly just experimenting and everything can therefore change. EA then likely doesn’t want to announce anything before EA at least knows some of the main new things to be included in the game.

Simmers wouldn’t likely buy the new game if it became too similar to one of the previous games. So EA just want the games to be as different as possible. But then most simmers just buy all the games and even all the cheap SPs out of curiosity. EA sure knows this :)

@Erpe I am not counting the months from announcement to release. Back when TS4 first launched, and the Guru’s used to hold Q&A sessions, one of them told us that The Sims 4 was in development for about a year and a half, two years max. That post is probably buried 10 feet deep by now, but that was in essence their way of admitting that the offline game was not in development for very long. A little nod to the fact that The Sims 4 spent most of its development time as a completely different game, leaving little time for big changes when they dropped online.

You also don’t need to post a timeline at all. No Sims game was completely developed in 1-2 years, even Sims 4. However their mention of 1.5-2 years was a nod to the game spending most of its development as an online game, which is something they have never been allowed to confirm directly. I know you have a hard time believing that, don’t know why, but it’s old news regardless.

According to http://honeywellsims4news.tumblr.com/post/63437610043/more-corroboration-for-patrick-kelly-the-sims-4 development on TS4 started already in 2008 and Patrick Kelley tells on this link that he only knew its development until 2012 where he stopped working on the game. So it seems that the development of TS4 even started before TS3 was released. I think that this tells better than anything else that EA plans quite exactly when each new basegame should be released many years before they tell us about it and that the basegames are planned to be released every 5 years.

Simmers seem to not understand this and to believe that the developers know exactly how to make the next Sims game even before they actually begin working on it. But I am quite sure that the opposite is true and that the reason a new basegame takes so many years to develop is that they don’t know anything when they start - except that the next big Sims game has to be very different from all previous released games and to have a new main focus. To obtain that they then have to make a lot of experiments and to come up with a lot of ideas which they then later can choose between. For the Sims 4 Olympus was just one of those ideas. But still an idea that they most likely dropped at an early stage of TS4’s development. (I just don’t think that EA’s top managers ever would have allowed them to drop something that they had worked so much on as most simmers seem to believe and even without firing some of the responsible producers!)

Erpe - PK was part of the team that worked on the original game engine - not the game itself by the way.

I’m almost certain the game Patrick Kelly worked on isn’t even The Sims 4.

Patrick Kelly said EA were working on two games, Olympus and Icarus. He said he worked on Olympus.

On the Honeywell interview, he admits they went with an entirely new engine for The Sims 4, rather than the one he worked on (Olympus). Which if they were working on 2 games, leaves Icarus.

However, everyone seems to ignore this HUGE detail, just because Olympus is referenced in the game files.



Apparently, we’re supposed to believe that a massive MMO hosting hundreds of players was supposed to fit inside Willow Creek and Oasis Springs.

Which I find a little hard to believe.

I agree. It seems more to me like EA was considering to also make a new Facebook Sims game or something like that. But we will never know because the game was never actually released anyway.

"Writin_Reg;c-16236710" wrote:

"Simsfan99111;c-16200516" wrote:

"jackjack_k;c-16198664" wrote:

"@SeaSide;c-16198125" wrote:

"TheGoodOldGamer;c-15663310" wrote:
The gurus have made it pretty clear they intend to support this game longer than any other in the series. Obviously other circumstances can come up to change those plans at some point, but part of the whole live service thing is to make updating easier n all that. The gallery has done a lot to promote creativity within the community as well.

I honestly think Sims 4 will end in 2020. It's a new decade, and they might want to focus solely and mainly on Sims 5, so it's not half-baked like Sims 4 was when it came out. But they might add a few stuff packs when they have time. That's just what I think will happen, I still think Sims 4 needs university and seasons EPs and has lots of potential.

They would have to be hard at work on the game now if we want to see it by 2020.

We knew when The Sims 4 went to work, because a lot of the Guru’s stopped working on Sims 3 things, and were kind of there but not really.

This hasn’t happened yet, so unless they’re ditching everyone on The Sims and getting a brand new team, my assumption is we won’t see The Sims 5 till around 2022 at the earliest. They’d need 4 years to develop a new base game.

I expect next year we’ll start seeing Guru’s shuffle around and then some of them will start working on “future content”

I still think the sims get rebooted, a new name or it will just go back to "The SIms" and drop the number. They cant go 5,6,7,8 etc forever lol well they can of course but thats alot of numbers.

EA BOUGHT THE DOMAIN for the Sims to the Sims 10 back in 2003, and update it every June 18th so we will see at least through the Sims 10 before any reboot in the title at the very least.

You put too much into this because you apparently think that EA knows exactly which game to make for the next 20 years and how to make them when the truth instead is that EA’s plans are changing all the time. EA makes a lot of experimenting and considering to explore new ideas. But most of those ideas never result in real games.

So yes, EA reserved all those domains because EA didn’t know if EA would need them later and EA still doesn’t. But the only thing that we can conclude from this is that EA is pretty sure that EA won’t ever need domains for Sims 11 to Sims 20 too because otherwise EA also would have reserved them before somebody else did (hoping to later be able to sell them to EA for a good price).

"jackjack_k;c-16235737" wrote:


I’m almost certain the game Patrick Kelly worked on isn’t even The Sims 4.

Patrick Kelly said EA were working on two games, Olympus and Icarus. He said he worked on Olympus.

On the Honeywell interview, he admits they went with an entirely new engine for The Sims 4, rather than the one he worked on (Olympus). Which if they were working on 2 games, leaves Icarus.

However, everyone seems to ignore this HUGE detail, just because Olympus is referenced in the game files.



Apparently, we’re supposed to believe that a massive MMO hosting hundreds of players was supposed to fit inside Willow Creek and Oasis Springs.

Which I find a little hard to believe.

I don't. I heard otherwise that Sims 4 was going to be an online game at one time early on in development. I don't know why Maxis is holding back, but it doesn't seem like the Sims 4 origins will be clear to the main public from what I gather until its development ends. It actually isn't that hard to believe. SimCity worlds are very similar in size to the Sims 4 neighborhoods. There are actually screenshots of Sims Olympus in the Sims 4 game files too it seems: http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/The_Sims_Olympus Sims games always take a lot of years of development, so I doubt that Maxis would have dumped all their assets they worked on so far to release the Sims 4 in time. It would be silly to do so. I actually asked some of the Gurus about some of the screenshots and some of them were testing the Sims 4 in an Unity engine like the rock with the grass.

"Scobre;c-16236801" wrote:

"jackjack_k;c-16235737" wrote:


I’m almost certain the game Patrick Kelly worked on isn’t even The Sims 4.

Patrick Kelly said EA were working on two games, Olympus and Icarus. He said he worked on Olympus.

On the Honeywell interview, he admits they went with an entirely new engine for The Sims 4, rather than the one he worked on (Olympus). Which if they were working on 2 games, leaves Icarus.

However, everyone seems to ignore this HUGE detail, just because Olympus is referenced in the game files.



Apparently, we’re supposed to believe that a massive MMO hosting hundreds of players was supposed to fit inside Willow Creek and Oasis Springs.

Which I find a little hard to believe.

I don't. I heard otherwise that Sims 4 was going to be an online game at one time early on in development. I don't know why Maxis is holding back, but it doesn't seem like the Sims 4 origins will be clear to the main public from what I gather until its development ends. It actually isn't that hard to believe. SimCity worlds are very similar in size to the Sims 4 neighborhoods. There are actually screenshots of Sims Olympus in the Sims 4 game files too it seems: http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/The_Sims_Olympus Sims games always take a lot of years of development, so I doubt that Maxis would have dumped all their assets they worked on so far to release the Sims 4 in time. It would be silly to do so. I actually asked some of the Gurus about some of the screenshots and some of them were testing the Sims 4 in an Unity engine like the rock with the grass.

The thing that should make it clear for everybody that Olympus wasn’t intended to be Sims 4 is the screenshots which clearly shows so simplified and poor graphics that Olympus must have been intended for another platform and most likely Facebook. Also TS4 can’t have been intended to have been a free online game with updates instead of expansions just like the Sims Freeplay is.

But Olympus and Icarus were two different projects and they could both have been about TS4. Just with Olympus as an online version of TS4 for another platform and Icarus intended as the PC version. We can guess all we want. But we will never know all the details anyway. People just want Olympus to be the reason why the basegame for TS4 got simplified, babies, no toddlers, simplified teens and no open world when the truth clearly is that EA just wanted TS4 to be a different type of Sims game with focus on multitasking, happiness and partying and also wanted to save money by cutting down on everything that wasn’t about that. Besides that the open world was omitted to make multitasking possible and still to have so low minimum requirements that all simmers could buy and play the game.