The Sims 4 will continue into 2018!

"Mchap353;c-15740136" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15740065" wrote:

"Mchap353;c-15739733" wrote:
Who cares about this outdated news. The main thing for me is that EA are now finding success with the current game and running with it for the foreseeable future. Poor Patrick Kelly
(whoever he is) is unlikely to be trusted by any large game manufacturer in the future.
There was fake news about another likely Sims rival a little while ago and that looked quite viable too until debunked.

I don't think anyone cares but Erpe about the old news we have all read/heard about TS4 was Olympus/Icarus projects. Or one or the other. What we care about is can this game survive past 2018 which is the usual four years. Considering Maxis history I sort of doubt it goes past Sept. 2018.

As long as it lasts 'til I can save up and afford a PC to play any new iteration on peak settings I'll be satisfied. I have played these Sims games for so long that I am quite stoic about disappointments.

Microsoft are going ahead with no new iterations only huge overhauls of Windows 10 so maybe Maxis could go that way too with Sims 4? They did give us 64bit. I hate having to start all over again.

I hated Windows 8, hate Windows 10 even more. I have no idea what I'm going to do when they release 11 and I still don't like any of them. lol

Windows XP and Windows 7 had more programs they stripped from Windows that now people have to buy or find shareware or third party. The more they improve the more they strip away programs users used every day.

"Cinebar;c-15732936" wrote:

"davina1221;c-15732908" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15669475" wrote:
Don't you mean it will end in 2018? :D Sept. 2014- Sept. 2018 is, after all, four years. Only TS3 lasted longer than four years and that is because TS4 was delayed a year. I really can't see adding more and more with the bad performance this game is already showing for so many. Whether they have a low grade laptop, a midgrade pc, or a monster gaming machine, this game is suffering performance wise, and ten GPs and seven or eight EPs seems like it might just break it for sure. I expect to hear rumors about the next Sims' project late this year or early next year and not necessarily even part of the series for 'pc'.

I'm not rich at all as who could be with 6 IRL kids, but I hope when they ever get to S5 that they don't skimp. There just comes a time when you have to buck up and get a good gaming computer. It isn't like gaming is all people do with computers and having an up to date one benefits a person in many ways. Keeping Sims games performance low just because some refuse to upgrade is just wrong. Windows changes everytime you blink and people go spend money and get the next version like its nothing. I'm wondering if all the cc and mods people use isn't the problem. I get the things that they fix in their updates, but no issues like you are talking about. Basically, my game works great. I'm an extremely firm believer that cc and mods was the biggest problem for S3 players. Right before Supernatural came out, I knew my game couldn't handle it and I got tired of the babies looking like sticks and took basically all cc except for around 5 things out and I have/had all the store stuff/all EPs/all packs and specials period and never had another problem again. My CAS seemed to be somewhat quicker and I only had my computer drop my game one time and that was when I was putting down black pavement in a large area and I'm no expert, but I assumed it was some time of blue screen issue and I never had a dropped game again with all content running and playing perfect.

I think they need to keep S4 and people should consider the cc and mods when examining why their game isn't working or working right; as I said, my game works fine no cc/mods. I'm not a total lover of S4 by any means, but to lose it any time before we get into the tens of EPs and a plum load of gamepacks/stuff packs would just be upsetting to those who have sunk money into it. :)

I'm going to strongly disagree with you on two points. One, CC and Mods had nothing to do with the bad performance of TS3. If not for the mods TS3 would have been over long before it was, I didn't use them and rarely ran into a problem other than the bugs the mods addressed. However, it's known fact their poorly created worlds (routing) caused much lag for many and other major things like the travel bug introduced with WA, which I didn't have since I never installed WA. (which caused silly stuff like missing butlers and other unrelated stuff which I did eventually get). Their CASt caused lag due to it is a 32 bit game and can't use more than 2.5GB of RAM so didn't matter if you had 8GB+the game can't actually utilize that anyway. Many modders told me if they would have cached CAS stuff it wouldn't have taken so long for so many. ETA: Spawners if on a lot would spawn a zillion more times causing the game to lag to the hilt and was finally told not to add spawners to lots, any lots. There were many things about TS3 that was bad programming and TS4 is soon to be not any better in the performance dept.

Point two, I strongly disagree people should buy a better card or processor if their processors and video cards are listed as supported. To me that should mean no lag, no freezing, no crazy graphics (like stretched babies) etc. If a company says something is supported hardware then it should be on them to make sure it will run just like they said it would. Period.

I've played Sims 3 completely modless and CC-less long after the last EP had been released. So no, Sims 3 doesn't necessarily need mods to ensure its existance. And I'm convinced a lot of complaints, like lag and crashes, are CC related. Not so much individual CC, but way too much of it. CAST did and does not cause lag.

"Cinebar;c-15740065" wrote:

"Mchap353;c-15739733" wrote:
Who cares about this outdated news. The main thing for me is that EA are now finding success with the current game and running with it for the foreseeable future. Poor Patrick Kelly
(whoever he is) is unlikely to be trusted by any large game manufacturer in the future.
There was fake news about another likely Sims rival a little while ago and that looked quite viable too until debunked.

I don't think anyone cares but Erpe about the old news we have all read/heard about TS4 was Olympus/Icarus projects. Or one or the other. What we care about is can this game survive past 2018 which is the usual four years. Considering Maxis history I sort of doubt it goes past Sept. 2018.

There were only 4 years between the Sims 1 basegame and the Sims 2 basegame and the reason most likely was that TS1 wasn't prepared to have expansions at all but got them anyway because sales numbers became many times higher than EA had expected for a game which only was an experimental sidegame to the SimCity games. But since then there have always been 5 years between the basegames ;)

I don't care about Olympus btw - only about the misunderstanding that Olympus in any way was the reason for the simplifications in TS4. IMO TS4 instead clearly was simplified for 2 other reasons:
1. EA has now seen that SPs and stuff sell just as well as bigs with a lot of gameplay even though stuff is much cheaper to make than new gameplay is.
2. The Sims games are still mainly targeted at the youngest teens who need simple gameplay and a lot of new things added all the time to keep their interest. (Jasmine Holiday and the challenges were added for the same reason.)

I just find Sims4 easer to play so hope it continues.
If I didn't have such problems with the Launcher and some kind of glitch in scrolling down when choosing clothes in CAS I would play Sims3 a lot more. I bought most of the Store also but it just refused to acknowledge a lot of it. A very stressful half an hour or so to reload everything for me. It's a shame as there is a beautiful game there.
I don't think I wasted my money though as I got several years pleasure when it worked properly and I am getting enjoyment, in a different way, from Sims 4.

"Mchap353;c-15741683" wrote:
I just find Sims4 easer to play so hope it continues.
If I didn't have such problems with the Launcher and some kind of glitch in scrolling down when choosing clothes in CAS I would play Sims3 a lot more. I bought most of the Store also but it just refused to acknowledge a lot of it. A very stressful half an hour or so to reload everything for me. It's a shame as there is a beautiful game there.
I don't think I wasted my money though as I got several years pleasure when it worked properly and I am getting enjoyment, in a different way, from Sims 4.

How much RAM do you have? When I played TS3 on a machine with only 4GBs of RAM I had a slow load for things like CAS. But that's not the only reason my CASt was slow. It's because I would redesign all sorts of woods on objects save those as customs. (No cc at all just using CASt) even patterns on furniture wood, lol. You can never have too much wood. Or I would redesign the wall panels and totally change those, too, to all sorts of things. But point being when I changed machines and had 8GBs of RAM all that load time stopped in CAS. True the game can't use more than 2.5GBs but think how that had to be divided between 4Gbs for XP (TS3 release) and then later for Windows 7 which both used 1GB so too little RAM does effect TS3.

I love to adjust every single surface in a house in CASt. I never ever save anything in CAS or build mode though.

"Erpe;c-15741677" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15740065" wrote:

"Mchap353;c-15739733" wrote:
Who cares about this outdated news. The main thing for me is that EA are now finding success with the current game and running with it for the foreseeable future. Poor Patrick Kelly
(whoever he is) is unlikely to be trusted by any large game manufacturer in the future.
There was fake news about another likely Sims rival a little while ago and that looked quite viable too until debunked.

I don't think anyone cares but Erpe about the old news we have all read/heard about TS4 was Olympus/Icarus projects. Or one or the other. What we care about is can this game survive past 2018 which is the usual four years. Considering Maxis history I sort of doubt it goes past Sept. 2018.

There were only 4 years between the Sims 1 basegame and the Sims 2 basegame and the reason most likely was that TS1 wasn't prepared to have expansions at all but got them anyway because sales numbers became many times higher than EA had expected for a game which only was an experimental sidegame to the SimCity games. But since then there have always been 5 years between the basegames ;)

I don't care about Olympus btw - only about the misunderstanding that Olympus in any way was the reason for the simplifications in TS4. IMO TS4 instead clearly was simplified for 2 other reasons:
1. EA has now seen that SPs and stuff sell just as well as bigs with a lot of gameplay even though stuff is much cheaper to make than new gameplay is.
2. The Sims games are still mainly targeted at the youngest teens who need simple gameplay and a lot of new things added all the time to keep their interest. (Jasmine Holiday and the challenges were added for the same reason.)

I will just be blunt, you can't convince me Olympus wasn't TS4 at one point. And you won't be able to convince me The Sims Mobile (new game) isn't TS4 ported over to Android down in the new Mobile section highlighting the new game.

"Cinebar;c-15742040" wrote:

"Mchap353;c-15741683" wrote:
I just find Sims4 easer to play so hope it continues.
If I didn't have such problems with the Launcher and some kind of glitch in scrolling down when choosing clothes in CAS I would play Sims3 a lot more. I bought most of the Store also but it just refused to acknowledge a lot of it. A very stressful half an hour or so to reload everything for me. It's a shame as there is a beautiful game there.
I don't think I wasted my money though as I got several years pleasure when it worked properly and I am getting enjoyment, in a different way, from Sims 4.

How much RAM do you have? When I played TS3 on a machine with only 4GBs of RAM I had a slow load for things like CAS. But that's not the only reason my CASt was slow. It's because I would redesign all sorts of woods on objects save those as customs. (No cc at all just using CASt) even patterns on furniture wood, lol. You can never have too much wood. Or I would redesign the wall panels and totally change those, too, to all sorts of things. But point being when I changed machines and had 8GBs of RAM all that load time stopped in CAS. True the game can't use more than 2.5GBs but think how that had to be divided between 4Gbs for XP (TS3 release) and then later for Windows 7 which both used 1GB so too little RAM does effect TS3.

This is the one I had trouble with so it wasn't the RAM. My latest is a Windows 10 and I don't play Sims3 much on that.

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700MQ CPU @ 2.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16316MB RAM

"Cinebar;c-15743710" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15741677" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15740065" wrote:

"Mchap353;c-15739733" wrote:
Who cares about this outdated news. The main thing for me is that EA are now finding success with the current game and running with it for the foreseeable future. Poor Patrick Kelly
(whoever he is) is unlikely to be trusted by any large game manufacturer in the future.
There was fake news about another likely Sims rival a little while ago and that looked quite viable too until debunked.

I don't think anyone cares but Erpe about the old news we have all read/heard about TS4 was Olympus/Icarus projects. Or one or the other. What we care about is can this game survive past 2018 which is the usual four years. Considering Maxis history I sort of doubt it goes past Sept. 2018.

There were only 4 years between the Sims 1 basegame and the Sims 2 basegame and the reason most likely was that TS1 wasn't prepared to have expansions at all but got them anyway because sales numbers became many times higher than EA had expected for a game which only was an experimental sidegame to the SimCity games. But since then there have always been 5 years between the basegames ;)

I don't care about Olympus btw - only about the misunderstanding that Olympus in any way was the reason for the simplifications in TS4. IMO TS4 instead clearly was simplified for 2 other reasons:
1. EA has now seen that SPs and stuff sell just as well as bigs with a lot of gameplay even though stuff is much cheaper to make than new gameplay is.
2. The Sims games are still mainly targeted at the youngest teens who need simple gameplay and a lot of new things added all the time to keep their interest. (Jasmine Holiday and the challenges were added for the same reason.)

I will just be blunt, you can't convince me Olympus wasn't TS4 at one point. And you won't be able to convince me The Sims Mobile (new game) isn't TS4 ported over to Android down in the new Mobile section highlighting the new game.

I don't care if Olympus really was TS4 at one point as long as people don't assume that EA used most of their time on Olympus and then suddenly made TS4 as a different game starting in the middle of 2013 after SimCity 2013 got into problems. A new basegame takes usually 3 to 4 yrs to develop and there is no way that EA suddenly would hurry the Sims 4 basegame through in only 1 year after having used 2 to 3 years on a different game.

I need to see the Sims Mobile before I can judge your idea about that game. But it would surprise me if your are right because then it would actually be about the first time ever that EA really has done such a thing.

I began with the PC version of TS2. But I still remember how surprised I was when I discovered that TS2 was a completely different game if you bought it for consoles. Everything looked very different, there weren't even kids in the console game and TS2 for consoles was a quest oriented game and not at all a sandbox game. None of the neighborhoods from the PC game were in the console game either. So I just didn't understand how EA could give the console game the same name as the PC game when this name actually was (almost) the only thing that was in common for those two very different games. But since then I have learned that this is something that EA just does all the time - no matter how confusing it is ;)

"Hax_the_Unjust;c-15745084" wrote:
Sims 5 out in 2019, thank god... I only have 2 more years to endure! I hope sims 4 can release couple expansion packs I can actually enjoy, pets not being one. Cats and dogs don't sound interesting to me they're always more hassle than theyre worth in sims games.

It's very unlikely that TS5 would be out in 2019. SimGuruLyndsay (the current executive producer for TS4) said in a interview earlier this year that she spends a lot of time thinking what TS4 would be like 3 or 4 years from now. 3 to 4 years from now is 2020 to 2021. It's entirely possible TS5 won't come out until something like 2022.

The old days of "a new Sims game every 5 years" are gone. The industry as a whole is increasingly embracing games as a service and most major publishers are launching fewer and fewer titles per year. There is a huge incentive for them to continue TS4 as long as possible, as opposed to launching a new game and building an active player base all over again.