toggle on/off vampires

I would think just the ones you did that in.

op and to other players if you do not went vampires in game simply reinstall the sims4 but just uncheck the vampire gamepack if you do not went it install you need to realise that if you bough the gamepack then you have to live with vampires in all your towns.

"Writin_Reg;15571236" wrote:

"lulubadwolf;15571031" wrote:
It must be a bug.
I had repair my game, play with my vampire, go back to the world view, check on manage household and saw two new people in the "Not in World population" and they are vampire, plus there is this townie i have meet before, who wasn't a vampire, who came into forgotten hollow and when i click on her it says that she was a vampire, so i wait until she leave FH, and she is still a vampire.
I don't understand what my game is doing Oo'
Didn't touch my game, i locked my vampire in her house and wait, the game have create new vampire townie ( and i don't have any mod/cc in my game )

I have no idea why it does that - maybe because you play a vampire and learn the Lore? I think they do if you actually play one as vamps need vamps. I know my sim is not a vamp and is level 15 on the vampire lore because he is a slayer of vampires - he doesn't kill them - he cures them - lol and I never see any new vamps. I have tons of pictures where my sim goes to vamp paries galore and he goes to human parties and outings and not a vamp in site in the human outings. But as I said he is not a vamp just lives in Forgotten Hollow and is being groomed as a slayer.

Locking vamps in a house doesn't usually work as they can generally get out as the mist teleport or the bat eventually.

Now that you say that, when i play a vampire without vampire lore skill the game didn't generate them that much (1 or 2 maybe), but the vampire i played lately did have the vampire lore skill at level 15. And i did remember that when i played a normal sims with vampire lore skill the game generate them.
In fact i looked her into her house without a way of teleportation to make sure that it's not her who force them to stay because she might have talked to some of them, but even the one she never met stay.
Must be the Vampire lore then.

"Writin_Reg;15571215" wrote:

"suzanna13;15570963" wrote:
Vlad just turned up as the receptionist in my science career. I was going to freeze him but it was time for my sim to go home. If he turns up again he will have to be deleted from the game. I don't know why my regular receptionist disappeared. This is the only thing I find super annoying.
Wims are also a problem with sims constantly getting a wim to research vampire lore on the computer but wims are just annoying In general anyway.
In one save Vlad did enter my sims apartment uninvited and bite him while everyone was sleeping. Other than messing up his first day of work it wasn't that big a deal and hopefully was a one time thing. Usually he just stands outside the door until morning.
How can you not interact with a vampire if you don't know they are a vampire? I guess if you wait long enough they will do some vampire actions but Vlad did nothing but play on the computer if I had not known who he was I would have had my sim introduce himself.
Now is Lilith immune to the sun? She was at a party at the bluffs and was still dancing away at 10 AM when I sent my sim home to sleep. I went in and edited the generated vamps so they don't dress like regular townies and I can keep better track of them. I have found so far my game wants to have 3 townie Vampires. If I delete them, 3 more spawn.
There are definately many more vampires in my vampire save. Especially in Forgotten Hollow. My vampire has to go to the city every Night to find food.
I like this pack enough to deal with the vampires. Aliens running around dressed as aliens but not recognized as aliens is worse for me.

Okay if Vllad (He is the Vampire Master) is showing in your place of work would be normal as he is a sim in the game and the game programs them to be co-workers - it is supposed to happen. But coming into your sims apt without an invite ever from you is not something that happens. Even the vampire Lore book says vamps cannot go into a sims living quarters if they have never been invited in and I know in my game they never come in as I have never allowed any in. Once you allow them in then they can come back all the time.

As for deleting a programmed character that might be an issue as they are not homeless sims generated by the game - in fact he is the most major of the Vamps for the pack - and you might have issues with your game if you do that. My niece and her friend both got their games corrupted by deleteing the three resident Vampires even though tons of people tell players to - it is not recommended when a character is in the actual programming as the game is programmed to tell that sims to do various things and when it is not there it can create conflict in the IA and do anything from corrupt the saves related to that game to creating lag when the game starts searching for the sim it has to control to do things. It is a different matter removing just game generated Sims in this game. If you want them gone they need to die to keep things like that from happening. From my understanding he may be respawn eventually but not sure when or if this is a fact as the devs were not clear on that - but usually programming needs the subject control it is programmed for or it creates serious issues.

In past sims games it created corrupt files, and saves, and created freezing and lag.

So the only way if you want to get rid of Vlad is to wait for his death ?
We definitively need more info about that.

"Writin_Reg;15571215" wrote:
Okay if Vllad (He is the Vampire Master) is showing in your place of work would be normal as he is a sim in the game and the game programs them to be co-workers - it is supposed to happen. But coming into your sims apt without an invite ever from you is not something that happens. Even the vampire Lore book says vamps cannot go into a sims living quarters if they have never been invited in and I know in my game they never come in as I have never allowed any in. Once you allow them in then they can come back all the time.

As for deleting a programmed character that might be an issue as they are not homeless sims generated by the game - in fact he is the most major of the Vamps for the pack - and you might have issues with your game if you do that. My niece and her friend both got their games corrupted by deleteing the three resident Vampires even though tons of people tell players to - it is not recommended when a character is in the actual programming as the game is programmed to tell that sims to do various things and when it is not there it can create conflict in the IA and do anything from corrupt the saves related to that game to creating lag when the game starts searching for the sim it has to control to do things. It is a different matter removing just game generated Sims in this game. If you want them gone they need to die to keep things like that from happening. From my understanding he may be respawn eventually but not sure when or if this is a fact as the devs were not clear on that - but usually programming needs the subject control it is programmed for or it creates serious issues.

In past sims games it created corrupt files, and saves, and created freezing and lag.

Did they report this as a bug? I know what you're probably going to tell me about the programming and everything, but I would bug report something like that and see if they can get QA to look at the save file.

Deleting a few premades causing major save corruption is a pretty big deal. And if that were something that is consistently going to occur, you would think they'd put in a "can't be deleted" clause for those Vampires. So either they totally missed the issues it could cause and didn't expect people to delete the premades, or it's a big ole' bug.

"Writin_Reg;15571283" wrote:
I would think just the ones you did that in.

That's a relief. Thanks again.

"Triplis;15571418" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;15571215" wrote:
Okay if Vllad (He is the Vampire Master) is showing in your place of work would be normal as he is a sim in the game and the game programs them to be co-workers - it is supposed to happen. But coming into your sims apt without an invite ever from you is not something that happens. Even the vampire Lore book says vamps cannot go into a sims living quarters if they have never been invited in and I know in my game they never come in as I have never allowed any in. Once you allow them in then they can come back all the time.

As for deleting a programmed character that might be an issue as they are not homeless sims generated by the game - in fact he is the most major of the Vamps for the pack - and you might have issues with your game if you do that. My niece and her friend both got their games corrupted by deleteing the three resident Vampires even though tons of people tell players to - it is not recommended when a character is in the actual programming as the game is programmed to tell that sims to do various things and when it is not there it can create conflict in the IA and do anything from corrupt the saves related to that game to creating lag when the game starts searching for the sim it has to control to do things. It is a different matter removing just game generated Sims in this game. If you want them gone they need to die to keep things like that from happening. From my understanding he may be respawn eventually but not sure when or if this is a fact as the devs were not clear on that - but usually programming needs the subject control it is programmed for or it creates serious issues.

In past sims games it created corrupt files, and saves, and created freezing and lag.

Did they report this as a bug? I know what you're probably going to tell me about the programming and everything, but I would bug report something like that and see if they can get QA to look at the save file.

Deleting a few premades causing major save corruption is a pretty big deal. And if that were something that is consistently going to occur, you would think they'd put in a "can't be deleted" clause for those Vampires. So either they totally missed the issues it could cause and didn't expect people to delete the premades, or it's a big ole' bug.

Sims 1, 2 and 3 are like that too for certain sims. Sims 2 it's the vamps, the Grim, Social Bunny, Psychiatrist and old Mrs. Crumplebottom.

It is not a bug though - it is the way AI works when a special character plays a programmed role in any game - the game sees that character and issues certain things they are supposed to do. If you have removed that character the game AI does not recognize that as it's files are still alive and well in the games data files - as you do not kill their files unless that character dies in the game. you would need a program to tell the AI the character is no longer there if they have not died in the game. The dying is the kill switch for that character that stops it's programming. Removing it just removes the ability for the character to do as the AI tells it to so then the AI tries to fix the issue as it thinks the character is stuck somewhere and in it's zeal to get the program to respond starts searching for the character, When the AI is searching a game can lag seriously or freeze or even crash the game - among many other things. Part of the lag of Sims 3 was due to characters getting stuck in the game due to bad routing - so the AI just kept trying to find a solution to make them do what it was programmed to do. Those were just minor Sims compared to The three Vamps this GP is built around.

Most Simmers know not to delete major characters. It has always been an issue with any game that uses a strong AI (Artificial Intelligence in case you are wondering.) The ones you can delete are the townies the game generates to fill jobs or provide walk bys to make the towns look lively- but deleting a programmed character like Vllad would be akin to deleting a boss in WOW or any of those kind of games.

It's not a bug though- it's working as AI does. Well unless the changed the way AI works - Sims has always worked this way. People were forever deleting sims then wondering why their games played so badly. I never have game issues because I know the way programming works with AI. They did improve it a ton for Sims 4 - but that is a programmed special character for the pack.

ETA -
There is tons of info on this in Sims Wiki - it's always been a fact. At least in Sims 4 they gave people a way to delete the Sims without destroying your saves - but as far as I know it's a different story when it comes to the "Special characters" - the Grim is also one of those special characters. But you can't just delete even the other sims without creating a problem and corruption to save files. This is not new knowledge at all about the Sims though.

http://www.wikihow.com/Delete-Sims

That's how to delete Sims 4 sims - but still not the special characters - they are not supposed to be deleted.

Honestly, I love how they set up the vamps, you wont get unannounced Turned sims.

"Writin_Reg;15570721" wrote:
It was in a thread link from twitter from the head guru of that pack. He also repeated that in one of the threads here.


http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/15506637#Comment_15506637

Thank you for posting the link :) then I know that toggles are out of the question.

"Writin_Reg;15570922" wrote:
Well they are not supposed to as the Guru's said they weren't. Did you watch the Vampire Twitch tv game plays with the vampires? I believe that's where they said that. They even talked about the Faux vampires. The team that made the gp is who played it. Seems to me they'd know what they programmed it to do.

I have been playing with the vamps since they came out and as I said the only vamps I have in game besides the 3 that came with it I added. All of them live in Forgotten Hollow.

Dave Miotke
‏@SimGuruNinja

@TheSimScraper @SimGuruMegs No on/off switch, but Vampirism only spreads when you (player) do it. So no swarms of Vamps invading your worlds

Curious if you have natural aging on or off? Because saw somewhere it was suggested that it could be issue for some us who have the aging toggled off, that game generate a lot of townies that probably would been intended to make possible to prevent a population decline as sims grow old and die, but with aging toggled off you will eventually have to delete some in order to prevent overpopulation and lag at least that's how it feels to me.

But been suggested that this might be causing vampires to be generated to fill out odd jobs like vendor jobs, bartender and etc that townies usually handle. So may if this is true be mostly a strong given problem for us not using auto aging because there some sims we might not wish to see get old and die?