What is most powerful Occult in the Sims 4? No Mod/cheat and Age is on.

It was a toss up between vampires and werewolves but I had a think about it. I think vampires are because of level 3 influence emotion. I never needed mods to enhance their powers or abilities like I did with other occults. You overcome burning up in the sun by taking sun resistance, so they might be fragile at first but if you make them sun resistant then nothing gets in their way. If you want to get a room full of sims in a flirty mood, just fire off that emotional influence. Or if you want a room full of sims to drop from cardiac explosion, same thing. I often wondered why they were the only occult with the ability to actually kill other sims. Without mods, non of the other occults have any kind of ability. So I guess that's why I voted vampires.

I find werewolves rather fun, but I think the vampires have them beat with the range of abilities they have.

You're asking simple questions for nuanced answers, and one answer for what seems like 3 questions. I'm not going to pick one, simply because there's no one answer to 3 different questions.

Most useful? In what situation?
Useful to everyone else: Spellcasters. They have ways to pretty much cheat anything they like, save a few.
Useful to themselves: Vampires. Bladder and Energy are changed into one need that can be made even easier to replenish. They can rid themselves of Social, Hygiene, and Fun. Thirst can be awful, but if they drop low, they'll automatically seek to replenish it (Not to mention 'Drain Life Spirit', which replenishes it fully).

Hardest to kill?
Simplest answer would be ghosts. They're more a "lifestage", than a "lifestate", and all lifestates have ghosts (besides Servos and skeletons).

Hardest/easiest on other sims in what context?
Do you mean to kill, based on abilities? That comes down to what a person has access to.

If they have access to an urn, then ghosts become tremendously easy.

In that case, then perhaps a werewolf (if their immortality grants death immunity, then only by cure would they be killable) or a vampire (who can be killed without being cured, but are less prone than mortal sims).

If a werewolf isn't death immune, then a vampire is the hardest.

I can't even express how happy it makes me to finally see Werewolves on a poll list. ❤️

I do play a lot of spellcasters, especially in large households where their practical magic is incredibly useful. I'm having a lot of fun with werewolves. My first impression with the werewolves was how other sims cowered in fear around them. I thought that was quite powerful in that way. I'm not sure I'd want a werewolf in every household, nor would I want a vampire in every household, but spellcasters are always handy.

So I'll say that modless, spellcasters are the most useful, but vampires are the most powerful.

"KyreRoen;c-18137582" wrote:
You're asking simple questions for nuanced answers, and one answer for what seems like 3 questions. I'm not going to pick one, simply because there's no one answer to 3 different questions.

Most useful? In what situation?
Useful to everyone else: Spellcasters. They have ways to pretty much cheat anything they like, save a few.
Useful to themselves: Vampires. Bladder and Energy are changed into one need that can be made even easier to replenish. They can rid themselves of Social, Hygiene, and Fun. Thirst can be awful, but if they drop low, they'll automatically seek to replenish it

I'm sorry about too many question, I tried get many question into one, more or less.

I do must let you know that even normal sim can get powerful traits, like no more sleep, no more food, no more bladder, no more social need, no more taking shower, all that from filled Aspiration goal (Aspiration traits and Satisfaction reward traits) but immortal is other story, normal sim could get it from spellcaster making of potion of immortal, but that is only elder only, not work on young and normal adults. Mermaid and Alien might got useful traits just like normal sim and should be more ability as well, too, I think, but not sure about rest...

What about fighting? Is vampire or werewolf better fighting or same random?

Is werewolf 100% death immune? I thought it's should be go to undead since undead is basic immune to death, not werewolf, werewolf should be harder to killed, but not immune to death, unless it's undead werewolf, more or less.

I find that if you're doing the Legacy Challenge, mermaids are most useful! Their powers are accessible right away, despite being limited, and can be very useful if you're fishing to raise money or trying to get your Sim a partner.

@Humility925
I don't know how strong a werewolf with 10 fitness, an energised moodlet, the right lunar phase, a garlic braid, and rampage on would be vs. a vampire with the same moodlet, fitness skill, Child Of The Moon rank 3, and Vampiric Strength rank 3. Either of the two would still trounce any other lifestate.

If we're talking a fight wherein both can be preemptive, then vampires have the edge due to various forms of mental manipulation.

I have heard it's death immune, but I tend not to take what isn't thoroughly tested as fact unless I'm the one testing it. Thus, I do not know.

"Humility925;c-18137594" wrote:

I'm sorry about too many question, I tried get many question into one, more or less.

I tried to at least narrow it down on each question, but as I said, it's a lot more nuanced based on the present variables.

"lilypadmeulin;c-18137597" wrote:
I find that if you're doing the Legacy Challenge, mermaids are most useful! Their powers are accessible right away, despite being limited, and can be very useful if you're fishing to raise money or trying to get your Sim a partner.

I wouldn't surprised mermaid is most powerful when are in the swimming in pool or ocean or river, I think?

"KyreRoen;c-18137598" wrote:

I tried to at least narrow it down on each question, but as I said, it's a lot more nuanced based on the present variables.

Thank you for feedback, but I do want to know werewolf is immure to death or not, because that is petty sound most powerful of all, is it bug or oversight or they do on purpose? If not on purpose, I don't know they will fix or not, since few time they hadn't fix some old bug for long time or change gameplay as well or balance gameplay in patch or upgrade.

As in love I am with Werewolves, I think Vampires still take the cake. The fact that they're the only occult that can directly kill, and in great numbers (make all nearby Sims in a club/bar get incredibly mad, for example), other Sims and remove most of the drawbacks to being a Vampire takes the cake for me.

my answer is normal sims but with aging fully turn off