Why can't customers JUST SHOP!

I agree it is rather annoying that customers socialise so much, they stop looking at the items and the bar disappears (the sale bar above sims heads) and when it comes back its dropped right back down again to empty. Been an issue for a while now so assuming this will never get fixed as the broken detective career never has been. I feel like retail has never worked, employees still stand around and dont do what you assign them to do. If your playing in a small shop where you can have your sim do it all themselves its fine but the second you start hiring sims you start to notice bugs.

its all about what you do in the store the more things you have for sell and the more decoration you have up the more sims will come to your store also if you have low price they will buy stuff quicker the higher the price the harder and longer it is it sell something

Yet when they go bowling, no socialising at all. Go figure!

It's been years and it still hasn't been fixed. What a shame. The more time passes, the more GTW feels like a waste of money.

TS2 was better at this because Sims has a browse autonomous action where they moved clothes on the clothes racks, looked around stood ande stared at objects thinking about buying them. I've been through Walmart before where people were blocking an aisle, socializing, don't you just want to scream 'get out of the way!' lol. But they weren't strangers to each other like in this game, they were friends or cousins or someting who happened to bump into each other. Do any of us stand around in stores and talk to strangers? I don't think so. Most kids learned 'stranger danger' in kindegarden and something we take through life the rest of our lives. lol And TS2 Sims don't start up socializing and pillow fighting etc. unless you are out of stock with what they wanted.

ETA: And TS2 Sims buy or leave and don't return the same day...smarter Sims.

"marcel21;c-16055547" wrote:

"Gviper;d-892221" wrote:
For crying out loud! Playing my bakery yesterday and now it seems I'm back to the endless socializing. Customers come in gather in a big group and then talk, whip out their phone and take selfies and text. I get that you want to emulate the social habits of society today, but even the mess we have in real life isn't as dysfunctional as what we have in the game. Why can't sims browse, and initiate and grow the purchase bar on their own instead of my having to babysit and interact with them every single step to purchase.

And even worse; I feel like the developers really aren't listening or don't care about this issue.

Because retail in general for this game was done poorly.

Have to agree while other areas are good, this area needs work.

"TS1299;c-16055912" wrote:

"Avilea;c-16055873" wrote:

"TS1299;c-16055579" wrote:
I don't know how you run a business, but in my game, customers shop. I had a furniture store currently and I earn 12-15K every day with all employees are maxed on their skills, and all of the perks are purchased. While I do see some customers talking, its only a minority and majority of my customers was browsing the items. Mostly also when I saw a group of sims talking, my employee was there who is assigned to answer customers question. I just let her do it then moments later those sims in the group will be ready to rung up.

So I wanted to ask, how do you run your business in The Sims 4? How come that at most I always saw others saying that after 10hrs they only had 1-3 sales where I can reach up to 15+? Keep in mind the mods that I use is only the MC Command Center for story progression along with MC cheats, and the Happy Buffs Change to fine.

Well you said it yourself, you're achieving what you do because everything is maxed out and you've purchased all the perks. I would think a reply giving tips on how to max out the skills and earn the points to purchase perks would be more helpful than comparing your high sales with someone's low sales. It's also a little rude.

I am very sorry if I appeared to be rude. I never meant it that way. It is the reason why I asked at the end, how do you run your business in The Sims 4? By giving your information I can help you to identify what had you experienced in running a retail store and what problems did you encounter that to me appears to be normal. However I would also like to thank you for giving me an idea. I might try to have my other sims to own a retail system from the beginning then capture images to create a guide for players to enjoy that feature as much as I do.

Thank you, I think this will help - the guide I used was from Carl's website, and it was informative, but as all guides are, some details are left to be discovered. I don't have a method of running the business yet as I had only just started it an hour or two before coming to the forum. I decided to run a store to see if it was a faster way to earn money than being in the GTW careers or rabbit hole careers, and I started with just a 10K store build and used 10K for items to put on the shelves (and subsequently discovered that with the 3-tier glass shelves, only the bottom shelf can be restocked, the sim complains and says they can't for some unknown reason on the 2nd and 3rd shelves). I wasn't able to hire any employees so I worked the store myself (and I admit I used a cheat to disable my sim's needs decay because there was nothing but a toilet on the lot to care for needs, and she's gotta make some money to afford anything more).

I also discovered that there is apparently a shopping meter over the sim's heads that only shows up once in awhile, and when that meter gets full, or close to full, they will make a purchase. Through research today, I have learned that you can speed it up if you use retail interactions such as answer questions and suggest options on that sim, but not having the meter always visible is frustrating. Now there's an idea for any modders reading this!

"Avilea;c-16056832" wrote:

"TS1299;c-16055912" wrote:

"Avilea;c-16055873" wrote:

"TS1299;c-16055579" wrote:
I don't know how you run a business, but in my game, customers shop. I had a furniture store currently and I earn 12-15K every day with all employees are maxed on their skills, and all of the perks are purchased. While I do see some customers talking, its only a minority and majority of my customers was browsing the items. Mostly also when I saw a group of sims talking, my employee was there who is assigned to answer customers question. I just let her do it then moments later those sims in the group will be ready to rung up.

So I wanted to ask, how do you run your business in The Sims 4? How come that at most I always saw others saying that after 10hrs they only had 1-3 sales where I can reach up to 15+? Keep in mind the mods that I use is only the MC Command Center for story progression along with MC cheats, and the Happy Buffs Change to fine.

Well you said it yourself, you're achieving what you do because everything is maxed out and you've purchased all the perks. I would think a reply giving tips on how to max out the skills and earn the points to purchase perks would be more helpful than comparing your high sales with someone's low sales. It's also a little rude.

I am very sorry if I appeared to be rude. I never meant it that way. It is the reason why I asked at the end, how do you run your business in The Sims 4? By giving your information I can help you to identify what had you experienced in running a retail store and what problems did you encounter that to me appears to be normal. However I would also like to thank you for giving me an idea. I might try to have my other sims to own a retail system from the beginning then capture images to create a guide for players to enjoy that feature as much as I do.

Thank you, I think this will help - the guide I used was from Carl's website, and it was informative, but as all guides are, some details are left to be discovered. I don't have a method of running the business yet as I had only just started it an hour or two before coming to the forum. I decided to run a store to see if it was a faster way to earn money than being in the GTW careers or rabbit hole careers, and I started with just a 10K store build and used 10K for items to put on the shelves (and subsequently discovered that with the 3-tier glass shelves, only the bottom shelf can be restocked, the sim complains and says they can't for some unknown reason on the 2nd and 3rd shelves). I wasn't able to hire any employees so I worked the store myself (and I admit I used a cheat to disable my sim's needs decay because there was nothing but a toilet on the lot to care for needs, and she's gotta make some money to afford anything more).

I also discovered that there is apparently a shopping meter over the sim's heads that only shows up once in awhile, and when that meter gets full, or close to full, they will make a purchase. Through research today, I have learned that you can speed it up if you use retail interactions such as answer questions and suggest options on that sim, but not having the meter always visible is frustrating. Now there's an idea for any modders reading this!

I had the do the same with you. The only cheat that I use when running a retail store was the make happy cheat to fill their needs. It will take days for you to earn a lot of money. It is normal if you only had 2-3 sims to be rung up every day, but as a business owner, you have to find a way to increase it.
My suggestion would be go to settings then check the box that says Traditional Social Menu.(I can't remember where part is this on the option is). Then when you interact an customer, clicking on them will automatically bring up the social category. It will be easier for you to find the retail socials more quickly. At the beginning there are only three socials that are available. However the longer you talk with them the more socials. You must interact with the customer on a retail store as always.
The meter will only be visible if they are browsing or your sim is interacting with them. In my experience it will only decrease once your sim interact with them and either your sim or your customer was in a bad mood. While the bar disappeared, the blue inside of it will remain the same.
When interact have your sim be in a confident mood. The close the deal interaction will become available, so while your sim was interacting with their customers, you can use that interaction to complete the curb appeal bar(the blue bar) to be fulled instantly, so they will by instantly. That is where the retail perks come into play. Buy the green simoleon sign. Place it inside of your store. Now by turning it on, your sim will be on the confident emotion state, which will let you use the close the deal interaction again. If you wanted to have more sales, then use the retail perks, because those are vital for your business if you want to have many customers to be rung up. From 2-3 customers, using the retail perks you can rung up 15-20 customers a day.
I approve that you didn't hire any employees.However don't get to long alone. Because once you follow what I said on the last paragraph, you will not be able to keep up on cleaning, restocking, and ringing up customers.

"TS1299;c-16056870" wrote:

"Avilea;c-16056832" wrote:

"TS1299;c-16055912" wrote:

"Avilea;c-16055873" wrote:

"TS1299;c-16055579" wrote:
I don't know how you run a business, but in my game, customers shop. I had a furniture store currently and I earn 12-15K every day with all employees are maxed on their skills, and all of the perks are purchased. While I do see some customers talking, its only a minority and majority of my customers was browsing the items. Mostly also when I saw a group of sims talking, my employee was there who is assigned to answer customers question. I just let her do it then moments later those sims in the group will be ready to rung up.

So I wanted to ask, how do you run your business in The Sims 4? How come that at most I always saw others saying that after 10hrs they only had 1-3 sales where I can reach up to 15+? Keep in mind the mods that I use is only the MC Command Center for story progression along with MC cheats, and the Happy Buffs Change to fine.

Well you said it yourself, you're achieving what you do because everything is maxed out and you've purchased all the perks. I would think a reply giving tips on how to max out the skills and earn the points to purchase perks would be more helpful than comparing your high sales with someone's low sales. It's also a little rude.

I am very sorry if I appeared to be rude. I never meant it that way. It is the reason why I asked at the end, how do you run your business in The Sims 4? By giving your information I can help you to identify what had you experienced in running a retail store and what problems did you encounter that to me appears to be normal. However I would also like to thank you for giving me an idea. I might try to have my other sims to own a retail system from the beginning then capture images to create a guide for players to enjoy that feature as much as I do.

Thank you, I think this will help - the guide I used was from Carl's website, and it was informative, but as all guides are, some details are left to be discovered. I don't have a method of running the business yet as I had only just started it an hour or two before coming to the forum. I decided to run a store to see if it was a faster way to earn money than being in the GTW careers or rabbit hole careers, and I started with just a 10K store build and used 10K for items to put on the shelves (and subsequently discovered that with the 3-tier glass shelves, only the bottom shelf can be restocked, the sim complains and says they can't for some unknown reason on the 2nd and 3rd shelves). I wasn't able to hire any employees so I worked the store myself (and I admit I used a cheat to disable my sim's needs decay because there was nothing but a toilet on the lot to care for needs, and she's gotta make some money to afford anything more).

I also discovered that there is apparently a shopping meter over the sim's heads that only shows up once in awhile, and when that meter gets full, or close to full, they will make a purchase. Through research today, I have learned that you can speed it up if you use retail interactions such as answer questions and suggest options on that sim, but not having the meter always visible is frustrating. Now there's an idea for any modders reading this!

I had the do the same with you. The only cheat that I use when running a retail store was the make happy cheat to fill their needs. It will take days for you to earn a lot of money. It is normal if you only had 2-3 sims to be rung up every day, but as a business owner, you have to find a way to increase it.
My suggestion would be go to settings then check the box that says Traditional Social Menu.(I can't remember where part is this on the option is). Then when you interact an customer, clicking on them will automatically bring up the social category. It will be easier for you to find the retail socials more quickly. At the beginning there are only three socials that are available. However the longer you talk with them the more socials. You must interact with the customer on a retail store as always.
The meter will only be visible if they are browsing or your sim is interacting with them. In my experience it will only decrease once your sim interact with them and either your sim or your customer was in a bad mood. While the bar disappeared, the blue inside of it will remain the same.
When interact have your sim be in a confident mood. The close the deal interaction will become available, so while your sim was interacting with their customers, you can use that interaction to complete the curb appeal bar(the blue bar) to be fulled instantly, so they will by instantly. That is where the retail perks come into play. Buy the green simoleon sign. Place it inside of your store. Now by turning it on, your sim will be on the confident emotion state, which will let you use the close the deal interaction again. If you wanted to have more sales, then use the retail perks, because those are vital for your business if you want to have many customers to be rung up. From 2-3 customers, using the retail perks you can rung up 15-20 customers a day.
I approve that you didn't hire any employees.However don't get to long alone. Because once you follow what I said on the last paragraph, you will not be able to keep up on cleaning, restocking, and ringing up customers.

Thanks for the tips - I didn't know about the green simolean sign giving off a moodlet, or how that curb appeal bar works, that's very useful to know!

"Mchap353;c-14955319" wrote:
This annoys me too. I am making a profit but my counter is besieged with a dozen Sims all talking to one another, getting in the way of the till and at least two of them are that dratted clown who have to be asked to leave but come back again. My Sim comes back exhausted and I feel that GTW is a waste of time.

Why cannot we have a counter that is enclosed so that only the owner and staff can get into. Keep customers in their place in front of the counter.

Ha-ha. I've owned a used bookstore for five years now. Sounds like most days around here.