Will it be "fated mate" instead of an attraction system?

I'm not sure I'd like the game picking my sims perfect match. I like to let them pick their lovers and let me see their chemistry. I have a good eye for when my sims are with the right one. I have one relationship going in a story that I wouldn't want the game suddenly breaking up because it randomly decided they aren't perfect for each other. I watch them when it's their turn in the rotation and they're so perfectly matched and happy. They are a perfect match.

As long as there is a way for us to protect existing relationships that we don't want messed up I'm open to trying it out on future sims and relationships and see how it works. I just get really nervous that it's going to wreck existing relationships.

So if I understand it correctly, the game won't pick a match that you don't want. Because it only runs a check on the person you're flirting with. It doesn't pick your mate out of the whole cast of sims in your game (unless you flirt with every one of them).

Of course you could have a desired match that the game decides is not a fated mate.

I see how some people might not like that, but still, it seems like in that situation we can still have all the regular non-were close relationships including spouse and soulmate, even if the person is not the werewolf fated mate.

As for Simmerville's OP, I really hope "fated mate" doesn't replace an attraction system. Some people are attracted to lots of people, and some people are not attracted to anybody. It's the same way in my game. I don't want everyone to suddenly have one and only one assigned Perfect Person to spend their life with. I can get behind it as part of the weirdness of being a werewolf but not for all my sims.

"mightysprite;c-18128497" wrote:
So if I understand it correctly, the game won't pick a match that you don't want. Because it only runs a check on the person you're flirting with. It doesn't pick your mate out of the whole cast of sims in your game (unless you flirt with every one of them).

Of course you could have a desired match that the game decides is not a fated mate.

I see how some people might not like that, but still, it seems like in that situation we can still have all the regular non-were close relationships including spouse and soulmate, even if the person is not the werewolf fated mate.

I'm okay with it as long as it doesn't interfere where we don't want it too. That's always my fear with something like this, how heavy handed and intrusive is it?

"DaniRose2143;c-18128503" wrote:

"mightysprite;c-18128497" wrote:
So if I understand it correctly, the game won't pick a match that you don't want. Because it only runs a check on the person you're flirting with. It doesn't pick your mate out of the whole cast of sims in your game (unless you flirt with every one of them).

Of course you could have a desired match that the game decides is not a fated mate.

I see how some people might not like that, but still, it seems like in that situation we can still have all the regular non-were close relationships including spouse and soulmate, even if the person is not the werewolf fated mate.

I'm okay with it as long as it doesn't interfere where we don't want it too. That's always my fear with something like this, how heavy handed and intrusive is it?

This is where I'm at. I actually used to hate the attraction system in Sims 2(I believe it was that one). I found it kind of intrusive. They wouldn't be attracted to who I wanted/needed them to for my story but would end up being attracted to people they are supposed to hate and it drove me crazy I had to spend so much time editing and changing things to drive the story I wanted to tell.

"sclevenger08;c-18128657" wrote:

"DaniRose2143;c-18128503" wrote:

"mightysprite;c-18128497" wrote:
So if I understand it correctly, the game won't pick a match that you don't want. Because it only runs a check on the person you're flirting with. It doesn't pick your mate out of the whole cast of sims in your game (unless you flirt with every one of them).

Of course you could have a desired match that the game decides is not a fated mate.

I see how some people might not like that, but still, it seems like in that situation we can still have all the regular non-were close relationships including spouse and soulmate, even if the person is not the werewolf fated mate.

I'm okay with it as long as it doesn't interfere where we don't want it too. That's always my fear with something like this, how heavy handed and intrusive is it?

This is where I'm at. I actually used to hate the attraction system in Sims 2(I believe it was that one). I found it kind of intrusive. They wouldn't be attracted to who I wanted/needed them to for my story but would end up being attracted to people they are supposed to hate and it drove me crazy I had to spend so much time editing and changing things to drive the story I wanted to tell.

I'm nervous about unintended consequences. I know it's supposed to be werewolf only. I probably wouldn't be so nervous if I didn't have a story that I couldn't be happier with the way the relationships are working out. If it works as intended I'm okay with it and will, I'm sure, find a use for it at some point. The way neighborhood stories went bonkers is a big source of my nervousness. Was it intended to go overboard like it did? Or was that unintended? If this does something unintended what damage could it do to current relationships? I hope it works.?

Now that the pack has been out for a bit, has anyone else experienced getting a fated mate w/o your consent? In theory you "choose" your fated mate by flirting, meaning, this is a function that is dictated by you, the player, or so I have read. However I've had several of my werewolf sims now get flirted WITH by other wolf sims (and within moments of them meeting too) and BAM now my sim has a mate for life!

For example: I sent my wolf-sim Max to the Grimtooth Bar and introduced her to Lou Howell. I only wanted her to be sociable/learn about being a new werewolf/get info on pack stuff/etc. I did not have her flirt with him. But right after they met (and I mean literally!) he flirts with Max and now he's her "fated mate". Worst of all, Max was already engaged to Caleb Vatore, and so she gets tense every time they get romantic.

This has happened with all three werewolf sims I've made so far - a rando wolf-sim flirts with them immediately after meeting, and attach themselves to my sim as their mate. I don't know if this would be considered a bug or not, but it's definitely happening WAY too fast! The first wolf you see surely can't be your "fated mate" every time, but that's how the game is acting. I'm scared to bring any new wolves out in public now, or even play them anymore. I can't find any mentions online about others experiencing the same thing, but there has to be a way to fix this, especially if your wolf sims only get one fated mate.

*I did kill off the mate of one of my sims in hopes of resetting the "one per customer" rule - fingers crossed!

"R_C;c-18132584" wrote:
Now that the pack has been out for a bit, has anyone else experienced getting a fated mate w/o your consent? In theory you "choose" your fated mate by flirting, meaning, this is a function that is dictated by you, the player, or so I have read. However I've had several of my werewolf sims now get flirted WITH by other wolf sims (and within moments of them meeting too) and BAM now my sim has a mate for life!

For example: I sent my wolf-sim Max to the Grimtooth Bar and introduced her to Lou Howell. I only wanted her to be sociable/learn about being a new werewolf/get info on pack stuff/etc. I did not have her flirt with him. But right after they met (and I mean literally!) he flirts with Max and now he's her "fated mate". Worst of all, Max was already engaged to Caleb Vatore, and so she gets tense every time they get romantic.

This has happened with all three werewolf sims I've made so far - a rando wolf-sim flirts with them immediately after meeting, and attach themselves to my sim as their mate. I don't know if this would be considered a bug or not, but it's definitely happening WAY too fast! The first wolf you see surely can't be your "fated mate" every time, but that's how the game is acting. I'm scared to bring any new wolves out in public now, or even play them anymore. I can't find any mentions online about others experiencing the same thing, but there has to be a way to fix this, especially if your wolf sims only get one fated mate.

*I did kill off the mate of one of my sims in hopes of resetting the "one per customer" rule - fingers crossed!

This is exactly what I thought would happen when they mentioned a fated mate system. Shame, could’ve had potential but the sims team doesn’t cease to fail.

"R_C;c-18132584" wrote:
Now that the pack has been out for a bit, has anyone else experienced getting a fated mate w/o your consent? In theory you "choose" your fated mate by flirting, meaning, this is a function that is dictated by you, the player, or so I have read. However I've had several of my werewolf sims now get flirted WITH by other wolf sims (and within moments of them meeting too) and BAM now my sim has a mate for life!

I have had this happen several times and it drives me nuts... within minutes of meeting some wolf is kissing my wolf's neck and getting hearts all over the place. Gives me the skeevs 'cause it's so intimate and non-consensual.

@R_C @Wndblwz would either or both of you be willing to post this as a bug report on https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/The-Sims-4-Bugs ?

It doesn't sound like intended behavior.

I also wonder if there might be a mod affecting things, or maybe cross-pack issues with Eco Lifestyle--Free Love NAP has "kiss neck" as an autonomous action. Tbh no NPC ever flirts with my sims if they don't already have a pink bar, unless that NAP happens to be active in the neighborhood where my sim is at that time.