I'm trying to figure out how the game knows which texture to apply on corners, for walls like the wood siding and brick styles that have left/right corners. Tried poking at two that behave differently in game:CWAL 0xD5F0F921-0x00000000-0x0000000000002FC9 (siding)CWAL 0xD5F0F921-0x00000000-0x0000000000009898 (brick)The brick one will use corner textures on a 1-unit wide wall; siding needs 2 units for a corner texture to appear. But why?Looking at those CWALs I can't find a meaningful difference =/ except maybe for --- CountedTGIBlockList: ProductStyles (0x1) --- : 0x9F5CFF10-0x00000000-0x000000000000270Bin the siding one (no such list in the brick CWAL). That type is currently UNKN .. does anyone know what 0x9F5CFF10 is? @SimGuruModSquad?If this isn't in the CWAL, where else could it be hiding?

"IngeJones;12871563" wrote:Aha if know which is which within the image group list and groups themselves, I can put better labels.--- WallImgGroupList: ImgList (0x3) ------ ImgList --- ImgGroupLabel: 0xC4 ImgRef01: (Med Diffuse) ImgRef02: (Med Bump) ImgRef03: (Med Spec)--- ImgList --- ImgGroupLabel: 0xC5 ImgRef01: (Tall Diffuse) ImgRef02: (Tall Bump) ImgRef03: (Tall Spec)--- ImgList --- ImgGroupLabel: 0xC3 ImgRef01: (Short Diffuse) ImgRef02: (Short Bump) ImgRef03: (Short Spec)---

We figured it out -- it's Unk15. Thanks @Snaitf .. as usual =DPictorial evidence here.

So are there a chain of wall textures linked somehow, with one being centre, one being left corner, one being right? or is there a texture holding nothing but a corner trim overlay?

In the CWAL files that have refrences to _IMG files directly (the ImgGroupList), those are the corner textures, one ImgGroup per wall height.

Aha if know which is which within the image group list and groups themselves, I can put better labels.

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tastytourist
11 years ago
We figured it out -- it's Unk15. Thanks @Snaitf .. as usual =D

Pictorial evidence here.
IngeJones
11 years ago
So are there a chain of wall textures linked somehow, with one being centre, one being left corner, one being right? or is there a texture holding nothing but a corner trim overlay?
Snaitf
11 years ago
In the CWAL files that have refrences to _IMG files directly (the ImgGroupList), those are the corner textures, one ImgGroup per wall height.
IngeJones
11 years ago
Aha if know which is which within the image group list and groups themselves, I can put better labels.
tastytourist
11 years ago
The first in each group in the ImgList is always the diffuse it seems -- I can check the rest in a couple of hours if Snaitf doesn't beat me to it =)

There are no left and right corners as far as I've seen -- they seem to be mirrored? (If you look at the brick wall screenshot I posted in your wrapper thread at mts, the mirroring looks quite obvious on that one) I'm not sure how the plain (non-corner) piece is being referenced right now (maybe we already know and I just don't remember .. was kind of late yesterday =P)

Also

ok, so CWAL points to MATD which points to the bump (which s4pe calls normal)

There seems to be a wrong label in the MATD? I looked at the file Snaitf had digged up there and that looked very much like a bump, not a normal. Or are there any normal maps in TS4 that are not disco-coloured?
Snaitf
11 years ago
"IngeJones;12871563" wrote:
Aha if know which is which within the image group list and groups themselves, I can put better labels.

--- WallImgGroupList: ImgList (0x3) ---
--- ImgList ---
ImgGroupLabel: 0xC4
ImgRef01: (Med Diffuse)
ImgRef02: (Med Bump)
ImgRef03: (Med Spec)
--- ImgList ---
ImgGroupLabel: 0xC5
ImgRef01: (Tall Diffuse)
ImgRef02: (Tall Bump)
ImgRef03: (Tall Spec)
--- ImgList ---
ImgGroupLabel: 0xC3
ImgRef01: (Short Diffuse)
ImgRef02: (Short Bump)
ImgRef03: (Short Spec)
---
IngeJones
11 years ago
Ok I am confused, so where is the reference for the corner wall images?

does anyone know what 0x9F5CFF10 is?

That's the productstyle thing.
Snaitf
11 years ago
Those previously posted are the corner images, the main wall images are linked to from the MATD file that the CWAL file links to.
tastytourist
11 years ago
"IngeJones;12872501" wrote:

does anyone know what 0x9F5CFF10 is?

That's the productstyle thing.

@IngeJones, what is the "productstyle thing", can you elaborate? I mean, what does it do? It appears to be something that isn't accessible by the little collection of s4pes that I've accumulated meanwhile ..
IngeJones
11 years ago
Several objects have one. It's an actual resource type, and I think it has to do with if you're filtering for a particular style. I was assuming stuff like "antique" "modern" "techno" or some such.