Console Controller Feedback

Just getting used to the new console controls update. The main issue I'm running into in build mode, though I like the menu staying open, is that I'm having a hard time scrolling. I don't want to have to move my cursor to the scroller and hold 'A' to go through items. I liked using the right stick for that so I can simultaneously move the cursor. Maybe have it so when the cursor is hovering in the menu that you can use the right stick to scroll and when out it can be used to zoom? It also won't let me use the bumpers to switch tabs, like choosing between kitchen styled rooms then using "RB" to swap to living room styled rooms, for example. Having that is much better that using the cursor to switch between tabs, I think, and it's really the main thing I'd like added back. 

Also experiencing a bug where you can't select customize/color options on items sometimes. I found a fix to exit the menu entirely and then go back to the item I was on, but that kind of defeats the purpose of the "less clicking" part of the update. 

"Now the Catalog is opened by default and STAYS open"

I personally HATE this. The screen, for me, already feels cramped with the menu plus my build on screen. Especially given the fact I'm currently building on a 64x64 lot!

Being forced to now have the menu there is frustrating.

Being able to close it completely to look at what I had built or to just move things around was such a bonus.

I had recently gotten back into The Sims due to a friend trying it out for the first time.

This is cause for me to stop again.

I'd love for a complete menu close/force open to be put in as an option because it being forced to stay open feels unfair.

Build/buy is about impossible to use with the new control update. Change it back. You can not scroll through items and i dont like the items being permanently across the screen. I play on ps5

this keeps happening to me on my xbox and it’s really annoying☹️

My 2 biggest problems with how the console gameplay flows are both build mode related, it's actually very annoying to not have fully control of the camera as in sims 3 camera, sometimes when decorating small rooms you simply can't decorate them with the walls up due to lack of camera control, we can't really control the angle of the camera and that annoys me a lot, the other problem is with the cheat code bar which doesn't keep the codes I enabled in the last playthrough and since we have to type giant cheat codes with controllers it takes a lot of time to actually start building, it's much more difficult to type "bb.moveobjects on" with a controller rather than a keyboard, I figured if we could not keep cheats on after saving we could at least have a list of cheats to select rather than have to type them all everytime

i’m playing sims on my xbox and every time i go to undo something it brings up the search bar. Is there any way this can be fixed? it’s extremely annoying 

This new update is horrible!!! As someone who plays exclusively on Xbox with my controller, being forced to use the cursor to move LITERALLY EVERYTHING, from navigating to grab the scroll bar and selecting each menu item color with the cursor just makes everything in build mode incredibly slower, when everything was so much faster before by shortcuts with the press of a button on the controller. Stop trying to make the controller experience like a keyboard and mouse experience. The reason I use my controller is so I use the cursor less!!! CHANGE IT BACK PLEASE! Or at least give us the option to change it back in the game options. There was nothing wrong with the build mode menu user experience before, this definitely made things worse.

Biggest pain points for console controller gameplay for me is the scrolling and high click counts for basic functions.

As the content grows, it gets harder and harder to find specific items, especially when you consider how lackluster and inconsistent the game’s filters and tags are, especially in CAS. Even scrolling through the filters themselves can be a slog. Factor that in with a longtime recurring console bug where the scroll speed goes haywire when in catalogs, and it can be downright miserable. That bug NEEDS to be fixed already, and I’d like a way to skip to the next category/back to the top when scrolling lists.

The January patch update added a new cursor toggle for build/buy, supposedly to bring the cursor’s usage more in line with PC, and I’m not certain how I feel about it yet. It doesn’t seem to be addressed in the help menu, which seems asinine to me as it was a major change, and I don’t think it’s an intuitive behavior for console players in general.

That being said, I’d be curious to see the new free cursor carried over to CAS, simply because it might help reduce the number of clicks needed to navigate the catalog, plus it might prove to be a workaround for that ancient Cats & Dogs bug around the breed names being impossible to select in previously made households (meaning households that have added pets via Neighborhood Stories cannot be edited unless I delete the pet entirely, bc the breed name is required and I can’t select it to put anything in).

A minor gripe would also be that I can’t open the swatch menu for a CAS item the Sim is already wearing. To change a shirt color, I have to take it on and off and on and off ad nauseum. It’s not a major thing, but the extra clicks pile up. That I can’t just hold the button down to open the swatch menu or something (similar to the counters in build/buy) is very strange. 

EDIT

okay I’ve been playing with it best I can between crashes, and I can see some value to the new control mapping. But as I’m getting used to the cursor toggle in BB, once again we run smack into the scrolling issue.

If I’m using the free cursor, and I go back down into the menu to look for a different item, the only way I can see to scroll the catalog is to try to grab a teensy tiny scroll bar. On PC, this is not an issue. Even if the user’s only option is to grab that bar, a mouse gives a user a MUCH higher rate of precision at greater speed. Console, absolutely not. Okay then, let’s try toggling back into the old mode using the stick to jump around, so I can scroll at least. And this starts me at the first level of navigation (which has a spot where I’m technically in free cursor mode, Objects By Room, which is a very weird behavior shift, but okay). I have to drill and drill to get back to where I was, this can be upwards of 4 actions. This is a HUGE friction point. There HAS to be a scroll shortcut to go with the freed cursor. Now we’re staring to introduce the triggers and bumpers more, maybe use a hold behavior on one of them to let a user scroll with a stick, IDK, but y’all NEED to give us something to fix this pain point. 

also, the inability to collapse the bottom BB menu is such a huge miss, and something I took for granted  pre-update, but now that it’s just ALWAYS there, it’s so annoying. I can do it in CAS by tapping square on PS5, why can’t I do it here? Is this consistent to the PC experience??? That 25% of the screen has an overlay nigh constantly, with no way to just hide it????? 

As of today after the Xbox forced me to update I realized that our build and buy is different to where now the furniture options are already opened which with the Xbox laggy ness makes it extremely hard to make or design houses or lots in general I don't like the way y'all messed with the build buy because this new way is alot more stressful and a longer process when building unlike how it was when all you had to do was hit the button opposite of the start and scroll down to it now I have to really slowly and laggy drag my mouse down through the build n buy catalog, 0/10 Not happy! Especially because now I can't play.