Weird lag in build/buy mode and sometimes in Live Mode too

Hmmm, what about the consoles? how is their system problem? 

Also I tried on 3 different PCs(2 windows 11, 1 windows 10) and 1 mac. all of them have exactly the same problem. it's impossible to be from the system only. The problem is in their source code that conflicts with the systems. I am a computer engineer myself (I can prove if needed). And I can see clearly, that the game is poorly optimized with the latest packs. The system will not have the game as a priority when the lag happens, and switch back to normal whenever player is pressing the UI Escape menu or something to re-prioritize the processing power. All of these because of the game being poorly optimized lately. 

I do not own any Razer software, and all my devices are clean boot. So your "fixes" will do nothing. Pair that with console players, that cannot have any Razer software or any other conflicting software.
And also, I do not lag with any other game except sims4. I do own Rtx 3080, and i7, also rtx 3070 and i7 on others. and latest Mac model. It behaves exactly the same, on all devices. 

People are not vocal enough, because they press the Escape button, to fix it, but this should not be a feature!!!!!!!!! For 2 months wages game. 

Also, I did a little survey of myself. And asked game changers from YouTube and Twitch in comments. "Fantasia, Pixelade, James Turner, LGR…" and many others, all confirmed they have this lag, and have the temporary fix of Escape button.  I can show proofs if needed.

Also it depends on the game style of each simmer. How they play. Maybe that’s one of the reasons some people don’t have the lag. Or many other variables. Still the sims team should prioritize this as first priority! Or it will end up just like sims 3 at the end of its life. Worst is that they said, sims 4 has many more years ahead, but it’s already broken.

I also followed the thread from the beginning, and many people @JeanVW and others thought they fixed it by doing the suggested things u mentioned, but after a while, the lag also came back. So none of those fixes were the reason, just maybe making it worst, but the core problem was never fixed in this thread. people always came back and told you the lag was back.

And why sims team developers are not doing their own survey directly and see what’s happening? @puzzlezaddict I do understand that you want to help people, but you can see that now, we really need an official sims 4 dev, to troubleshoot and finally admit and fix this problem. Is going on for far too much time, since the pack of Get Famous. 

Also I did contact the EA troubleshoot team, and spent a few days to keep sending them reports and do whatever steps they wanted me to do, Like DxDiag and clean boot, no internet, re-install LAN driver, sound and many other fixes. After I wasted many many hours, they finally replied "We are aware of this issue and it is widespread across many platforms, please wait for an official patch". 

Why did I have to go with all these troubleshooting when they already know what is happening? Waste of my time.

 My conversation was one and a half year ago!!!!! And we are still waiting for the patch? 

Also they never admitted publicly for this lag, or told us they are working for a fix....

@Serraphiell  Consoles have had performance issues for years that are clearly separate from the problems in the PC and Mac versions.  As a computer engineer, you must know how different a console version of a game is to its Windows counterpart.  If you look through the console forum, you'll see that those issues are much closer to universal and much more severe on last-generation consoles, which isn't surprising considering the improvements in hardware of the current generation.  Players who know how the game runs say that the only real workaround on older consoles is to run the game with just a few packs.

That's not really the point though; the point is that when a problem happens on some but not all systems, and even the same setup (or the same saves) run better on one computer than another, it cannot by definition be purely a game problem and must have at least something to do with the various systems running the game.  For your own issues, I don't know whether you have the same software running on all your computers, or there's something about your router or ISP that doesn't get along with Origin, or something else entirely.

But I do know that for all the people who report this issue, there are just as many who don't see it.  Sure, some players are probably just working around it, but plenty of us have tried to reproduce the issue and can't no matter what we do.  I've benchmarked Sims 4 at least half a dozen times at different patch levels and seen only mild framerate drops at worst, barely dropping below 100 fps.  That's not to say the problem is only due to system issues, just that it's also not only the game itself.

As for Sims 4 not being optimized, I'm not going to argue with that.

I understand why you want developer attention, but it's not like the devs don't care, they're just working on a number of issues at the same time.  I couldn't tell you whether anyone's working on this particular problem, but I do know the devs are tracking several performance issues, including the fps drops when entering Build/Buy.  They're also tracking a very large pile of other issues; check out the bug forum and the periodic laundry lists if you want to see how much is on their plate.

For what it's worth, Sims 3 runs great on my computer, no performance issues whatsoever in three years.

 My conversation was one and a half year ago!!!!! And we are still waiting for the patch? 

Also they never admitted publicly, or telling us they are working for a fix....

This is my official conversation with the EA team, as you can see they are completely aware of  this bug. But since my last conversation, it passed 1.5 years. You can see they said with their own words “

( 24m 0s ) Shoaib: I have just consulted with my concerned team regarding your issue. Please first of all, accept my apology for the inconvenience caused. I would like to inform you that there is some technical difficulties going on and there are many players facing this issue.

( 29m 18s ) Shoaib: I have forwarded the feedback to the team already. There are many players facing the issue. The team is already working on it. Please wait for some time. It will be resolved soon. (if needed i can attach the whole conversation, name of person, date or any information you want.)

I am not going to argue with you how consoles or computer works. (since we will spend days). The thing is that this specific lag is universal on all platforms. I am not saying that the normal performance lag on consoles is the same as this specific lag. The console can lag indeed because of their reduced power, but this specific lag when it happens on consoles makes the game under 10Fps. And you know it is the same lag since you “fix” it in the same way of pressing the “Escape button”.  And game will go back to let’s say on 30 fps on consoles.

I also have access to many computers, with different settings, the 3 PCs I mentioned are in different places, different internet. All of them are clean booted and I tried many “fixes” of not having internet at all and all the list the official sims team told me to do.

CLEAN BOOT YOUR PC and then log in back to the Origin client and check if you're able to launch the game.
To Clean Boot the PC, I would ask you to follow the below provided steps:
1. Beside your start button, you'll see a magnifying glass icon. Click on it to open search.
2. Type msconfig in the search box, and press enter to bring up the System Configuration window.
3. Click on the Services tab.
4. On the window that opens, check the box to Hide all Microsoft Services, then click the Disable All button to the right.
5. Click on the Start Up tab, then on Open Task Manager.
6. Let the Task Manager list populate (this can take a few seconds), then right-click and choose Disable on each of the start up programs listed.
7. Close the Task Manager window to return to the System Configuration window.
8. Click OK to save your changes, then restart your computer.
FLUSH DNS CACHE: Clearing your DNS cache will help you get rid of outdated data in your internet that may be causing the connectivity issue that you are experiencing. Please see this link for the steps on how to do so: https://help.ea.com/en/help/pc/connection-troubleshooting-advanced-pc/ DISABLE FIREWALL AND ANTI VIRUS: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ph/windows/turn-windows-firewall-on-off#turn-windows-firewall-on-off=windows-7 CLEAR BROWSER’S CACHE: Clearing your browser’s cache will help you eliminate any possible corrupted files in your browser’s cache which can cause crashing or launching issues. Please click on the link for the steps on how to do so depending on the browser that you are using: http://help.ea.com/en/article/clearing-your-browserscache/ Should you still be experiencing issues even after all these steps, please gather the following: DXDIAG: https://help.ea.com/en/article/how-to-gather-dxdiag-information/ MSINFO: https://help.ea.com/en/article/how-to-find-and-attach-your-msinfo/

Sims 3 will stagger always when you rotate the camera or move around with the w,s,d,a keys. On every computer! So please don’t tell me that sims 3 doesn’t have performance issue.

EA doesn't care about us, we've to accept it. I don't know if you've tried, but if you clean the bulletin board the lag disappears for a few minutes 

Yes, it does disappear sometimes, also sometimes it doesn't. same as Escape button... but this should not be a fix, in the first place. It is more stressful than enjoyable to just wait for the lag to appear, for every few minutes and maybe fix it or not fix it with clear notification or escape button. so better to just quit the game, until Sims team will finally fix it, more than 2 years and counting 😊

Here we have the same lag experience, he just made a new save. Literally just bought the game for the first time with all DLCs, you can watch the whole video,

And the famous lag just appeared when he switched to build, buy mode after some time. I can copy the link that has exactly the time when the lag happened. 

https://youtu.be/3KUSRv7zwpg?t=1511

Have a look 🙂 IT is the FAMOUS BUILD BUY LAG, THAT HAPPENS ON MOST OF THE PLATFORMS! IT is urgent indeed! And we need a fix as soon as possible! 

He has no mods, all the packs installed, and a starter house from EA. it is so wrong and frustrating. you can read his frustration if you watch the video until the end. He spent 500 Euro when the game and all the packs were 50% discount. that means that the game in Europe costs 1000 euro with all its DLCs. And this is the answer for the money we paid? We cannot even play it without motion sickness, because of the fps that drops below 10. 

@Serraphiell 

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Serraphiell wrote:

 My conversation was one and a half year ago!!!!! And we are still waiting for the patch? 

Also they never admitted publicly, or telling us they are working for a fix....

This is my official conversation with the EA team, as you can see they are completely aware of  this bug. But since my last conversation, it passed 1.5 years. You can see they said with their own words “

( 24m 0s ) Shoaib: I have just consulted with my concerned team regarding your issue. Please first of all, accept my apology for the inconvenience caused. I would like to inform you that there is some technical difficulties going on and there are many players facing this issue.

( 29m 18s ) Shoaib: I have forwarded the feedback to the team already. There are many players facing the issue. The team is already working on it. Please wait for some time. It will be resolved soon. (if needed i can attach the whole conversation, name of person, date or any information you want.)

I am not going to argue with you how consoles or computer works. (since we will spend days). The thing is that this specific lag is universal on all platforms. I am not saying that the normal performance lag on consoles is the same as this specific lag. The console can lag indeed because of their reduced power, but this specific lag when it happens on consoles makes the game under 10Fps. And you know it is the same lag since you “fix” it in the same way of pressing the “Escape button”.  And game will go back to let’s say on 30 fps on consoles.

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So you, a "computer engineer myself" believes that a Tier 1 Tech Support Rep has any real inside about this problem? 
This guy just wanted to get rid of you. 😉

And yes, I like to see the proof you promised us about you being a computer engineer. 🙂

Be that as it may, @puzzlezaddict perfectly explained to you why this is not just a game issue, but at least partly a issue of the specific system.
So I would listen to her/him and start troubleshooting .
If the clean boot really did not helped, the problem is most probably with a driver, a system setting or your hardware.

So this is the answer from another "Hero" of this forum? Not only EA that doesn't care about us... but I can see that "heroes" on the EA forums are being ironic and attack people, when they are proven wrong.

I think I already proved my point, that this lag can be fixed only by the dev themselves and nothing we can do on our sides can fix it. 
I will gladly show all the documents u want as proof in private message, since i will not expose it here with my full name and so on. 
It's very curious how all the "heroes" don't have this lag.... I suppose you don't as well. For the love of sims, please do your own surveys, test on many computers, ask many game changers, ask random twitch players and you will find the lag in 80% of cases.

And do not attack players, that struggle with lag in a game that costs more than 1000 Euros, but instead help us to get a good end to this mess, and be the real heroes u claim to be on this forum 🙂 

Do not tell us is a fault in drivers or many other things that is not related to this type of lag. (these solutions can fix other lags, but not this one).

And also, thank you for telling us that contacting "Tier 1 Tech Support Rep has no real inside about this problem", and we waste our time everytime we try to contact EA customer support!!!!! Because "These guys just want to get rid of us". 😉 A good information indeed.