4 years ago

Schaffa & WCS 2021

Hello Guys!

Because me & Takman got asked so many times:

Schaffa wont start the WCS 2021 for a couple of reasons!

1. World setting
Forgotten attacks was the last good update which came into this game. Nothing to say against!A world without morale makes it fast, you can go 5 days afk and zerg down 2-3 Bases and you are back.. It can be fun and depressing at the same time. We miss these old days, where you have to build up your account properly.. Where your tib/cry productions in your cashbases were worth something. Without morale you dont need to worry except one thing:Are on our route to our mid enough tib/power pois? is there a level 47ish reactor in the mid on our side? No? GG..In our opinion a WCS is a world of "skill", where every person/alliance can show off their gameknowdledge and stuff, which isnt given with "no morale" settings.
This brings me to the next issue.

2. multiaccounts & preshooting bases
This is the biggest problem! Everyone who have played over the last few years made experience with multi accounts and/or preshooting. The new meta is like:Having 25 "main" players and 25 multi accounts in your alliance, about another 50 multis waiting to get swapped when the first 25 multis are empty on repair/cp.. And repeat!On worlds without malus they are usefull.. You can still kill a base with a difference of 20-30 level (your OL to the forgotten base), especially when the multi has keyunits like a paladin or what ever.As an honest player its nearly impossible to catch up or even be equal to a "fed account". Yes, there was a patch to prevent preshooting.. But its still efficient, if you know how (i dont mention these players who like to shoot a base together and have to clean up every building to get something out of it). Dont get me wrong, I usually waste 8hrs+ for this game a day.. but its a big difference, if you have one account with 240cpish a day or 2400cp with 10 accounts.. Amount of multies shouldnt decide the outcome of a WCS.
You know what will prevent this abuse if you cant fix it? Oh yes. Morale!

3. peoples mentality
This is my personal issue. I wont talk about unthankfullyness or "nice weatherplayers" or blabla.. Its more about these who prefers easy gameplay mode. I tried it after the last WCS on a couple of some worlds: I wanted competition.. I played against ppl, i used to play together.. Where is the use of winning a world in 3 weeks of gameplay? farming further 4-6 weeks outs/camps till you have all codes & the level for the fort? I know, there are many people out there who are allways on the "loosing" side and want to have the chance of winning a competetive world, i can feel that.. The sad result: Most of the people dont like competition.. They prefer easy worlds.. Just put all strong players into one alliance and get an easy batch. (sadest part about this, that the ppl who won everything even want the less competetive mode)

Thats why we support you! You got your dream world setting, use your multis and rush to the mid without competition, you deserve it =).We won the WCS 2017 against unfair enemies who started locking (glad it is 4 years later fixed :D) during war, when they recognized they are weaker. (the last morale WCS when i remember correctly)We won the WCS 2019 against an overwhelming amount of enemies (it was like 150 on our side against 600 on the enemies side). We are kinda tired.. its exhausting if you dont want to use the same "exploits", like these desperate ones who will do everything to win..
There is no need to do a vote for world setting, because the one with more multis will win. We are sorry for those, who maybe wanted to have a competetive WCS and those who were looking forward to play for Schaffa at WCS, but "we" are highly demotivated (not only the issues above, but also the time of date and stuff). Maybe we will see each other again on WCS 2024 (when there are still more playing then 10 ppl :D). Btw. people who want competition and are willing to learn, feel free to contact me :).

Greez

kOeGy & Tak

itmustbe2
4 years ago
1.
Indeed EA/Envision killed all the competition with the Updates over the last years. But they have done that because of player´s behavior. So don´t blame them for that.
Today everybody knows that the updates are not good for the game at all and Envision / @EE_Elephterion is not reading the various threads about all these topics or he´s not interested in any further changes to that game. Otherwise I can´t explain these passivity. There are problems with pvp, teamplay, ressources, new worlds and so on and there is not one reasonable discussion about that. @Bruellhusten1 somewhere wrote something like “lets talk – we will find solutions”. He´s right about that. Why there is no meeting between longtime players and @EE_Elephterion to find a future for that game?
The communication here is really bad atm!

2.
Always funny how especially TTD players pervert the facts. OFC almost everybody is using alts. Nobody disagrees! But there is one important difference!
Most players use alts the first 2-3 days to find a good entry into the bases. They also use them to find layouts. They also use them to safe pois later in the game. You can discuss about that in general – but that´s not the problem for the game.

The problems are:
a) guys like @sannahopea, @GanjaMaster_PL and Co. using xxx alts all day long
b) guys like for example @SpeirFein who is celebrating these act / big main bases
c) CIC´s like @Bruellhusten1 tolerating these behavior

No other Ally is doing that in the way you do! Don´t tell a different story. Even at TIB 53 without any enemy these mentioned guys are using alts like crazy. How stupid is that?

Because of that really nobody is playing against you now (see Tib 53) and also nobody will play against you in the future. Guys see you starting a server and they immediately quit for good reason!

3.
By reading all the comments here I determine that everybody (Project + Schaffa / no idea if there are more Ally´s ) is interested in competition + there is almost one month left before the start.

@Bruellhusten1
Do the first step and confirm not allowing alts for pre-shooting after base 2 (something like that).
So the Schaffa guys have no more argument not playing the WCS. Talk to each other and perhaps everybody gets what he is looking for:

a competitive WCS!

On this note stay healthy + talk to each other + find a solution for the game in general. There are still many guys that like the game and it would be a shame if it ends that way.
GanjaMaster_PL
4 years ago
> @Kinshasa551 said:
> 1.
> Indeed EA/Envision killed all the competition with the Updates over the last years. But they have done that because of player´s behavior. So don´t blame them for that.
> Today everybody knows that the updates are not good for the game at all and Envision / @EE_Elephterion is not reading the various threads about all these topics or he´s not interested in any further changes to that game. Otherwise I can´t explain these passivity. There are problems with pvp, teamplay, ressources, new worlds and so on and there is not one reasonable discussion about that. @Bruellhusten1 somewhere wrote something like “lets talk – we will find solutions”. He´s right about that. Why there is no meeting between longtime players and @EE_Elephterion to find a future for that game?
> The communication here is really bad atm!
>
> 2.
> Always funny how especially TTD players **** the facts. OFC almost everybody is using alts. Nobody disagrees! But there is one important difference!
> Most players use alts the first 2-3 days to find a good entry into the bases. They also use them to find layouts. They also use them to safe pois later in the game. You can discuss about that in general – but that´s not the problem for the game.
>
> The problems are:
> a) guys like @sannahopea, @GanjaMaster_PL and Co. using xxx alts all day long
> b) guys like for example @SpeirFein who is celebrating these act / big main bases
> c) CIC´s like @Bruellhusten1 tolerating these behavior
>
> No other Ally is doing that in the way you do! Don´t tell a different story. Even at TIB 53 without any enemy these mentioned guys are using alts like crazy. How stupid is that?
>
> Because of that really nobody is playing against you now (see Tib 53) and also nobody will play against you in the future. Guys see you starting a server and they immediately quit for good reason!
>
> 3.
> By reading all the comments here I determine that everybody (Project + Schaffa / no idea if there are more Ally´s ) is interested in competition + there is almost one month left before the start.
>
> @Bruellhusten1
> Do the first step and confirm not allowing alts for pre-shooting after base 2 (something like that).
> So the Schaffa guys have no more argument not playing the WCS. Talk to each other and perhaps everybody gets what he is looking for:
>
> a competitive WCS!
>
> On this note stay healthy + talk to each other + find a solution for the game in general. There are still many guys that like the game and it would be a shame if it ends that way.

heh buddy....pls pls pls....pls stop ur crying :D u talk stupid...maybe problems are on your side? Schaffa/Mara take the best players in one team a many years ago, so they are solely responsible for destroying the game. That it forced an uprising "Project" - people like me were fed up with winning by one side. Schaffa has never been the best, Schaffa only always had the most of top players. Now the roles have changed....you can't accept it and you can't lose. Collect crews to fight against us or stop crying like a baby. It's just a game buddy :D I greet the Fighters and I do not greet the crybaby :D:D:D
chadthurston
4 years ago
from what ive seen this will likely be the last year or so of this game, you guys are killing it, all of you have an equal hand in it. you all know i wont play with any of you and ive been looking for years for regular people like me i could fit in with, and there will likely never be any because regular cnc fans like and prefer pvp and nobody wants to play against 150 germans or 600 project members thinking your elite and doing whatever it takes to win, but you are actually losing like crazy. you guys lost so much competition because of your greed and its going to cost this game its existence. obviously things cant go on like this people keep leaving, nobody even tries to play FA servers anymore with you project guys and people have been sick of playing against 3 german teams for years thats how project even came about in the first place. you guys all had an equal hand in killing this game and ive had to sit here and take this shit for years and im sick of it and sick of you people, id like to be able to enjoy this game again but thats not happening, ive asked over and over for multiple servers to start at once so that these people cant all be grouped together in every single server, i cant stand this community anymore i dont want to quit because i like shooting you people but ill never play with any of you cooperatively because of this. you are all cowards and its clear to everyone and probably by now even yourselves, shame on you shame on the development for ruining tiberium alliances and i can say this for sure none of you people are worth a shit on your own.
jaune10
4 years ago
It is the best thing new team has emerged at the top of championship level.

Don't aprove one's style of playing with dozen of alts but this game's exploit still exists because of financial reasons. And new players have also mastered the knowledge of using this exploit and also playing as a team.

There are no more gaps between WCS winners over the years and challengers today.
So, let the best team win, with or without Schaffa .
EE_Elephterion
4 years ago
I can assure you I am reading the threads and discussions about the WCS.
Regarding meeting with players to discuss details about WCS, I think after the last WCS we won't do that anymore. At least not without the general public present - and thats what discussions in the forum like this here is there for.

We decided to announce the world with the same config as the previous WCS worlds as we know these worlds usually see more activity and the player base seemed generally supportive in WCS 2019.
itmustbe2
4 years ago
„fun“ fact for xmas: normal guys will talk/ play with children, nephews, parents, aunt, uncle and so on.

Other guys will talk / play with korekanalny, korekanalny1, korekanalny2, korekanalny3, korekanalny4, korekanalny5 + friends :'(
Bartoalist00
4 years ago
Why not do something about malus at least? so you can do a world between rules of FA worlds and not Fa worlds, thats the point of a WCS, is see who have the best level and for people that only play FA is better than other that only play classic ones, so do something between.
itmustbe2
4 years ago
"Bruellhusten1;c-2210946" wrote:
We limited the alt usage in our alliances.

Lets take a look at the limited alt usage at TIB53:

aahessu
beerspower
bluntWrap99
captain cavement
carlos nod
cnc-engineer
crook3d
ebach76
flat faced fish fin
hugp10
humphreyofOZ
hunter16545
ip-wcs
konigin_maxima
korekanalny
korekanalny1
korekanalny2
korekanalny3
korekanalny4
korekananly5
kovavauhti
0battlebeast0
robm5
sentierorosso
sh helper
sss-kim
superrichie666
teej
ttd bombardier
ttd ghoust
ttd-sub
vertsone
vigxo
zhioxz
8superfly8

Accounts used for pre-shooting again and again - most accounts are well known for a long time.
And there are probably many more ;)

once again -> there is easy way to stop that nonsense: every CIC should not allow alt-accounts for pre-shooting (from the beginning or at latest after base 2)

problem solved!
chrissischuldt
4 years ago
"GanjaMaster_PL;c-2210928" wrote:
> @Kinshasa551 said:
> „fun“ fact for xmas: normal guys will talk/ play with children, nephews, parents, aunt, uncle and so on.
>
> Other guys will talk / play with korekanalny, korekanalny1, korekanalny2, korekanalny3, korekanalny4, korekanalny5 + friends :'(

cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy babe cryyyyyy, bc u are losers :D:D:D:D:D

Maybe you should shut up , without prehitting you are nothing so don´t talk like you are something special , you are insanely trash in this game buddy
one_cIown
4 years ago
A starting point would be if EA quite simply opened many more servers, more servers encourage guys to move on, it stops the waiting your turn as that itself would/should encourages the guys left behind to make their own path. It will thin down these massive teams, 400 500 600 players in one team, that will thin out because these teams are that way because guys know that the next new server maybe months away so therefore they currently tag onto the best chance of a badge, they follow a big team in a wing. They know the big guys will be there to help them get their badge, they just have to do as they are told and wait in line. Put an end to the easy game and open more servers and the big guys will not stay for endless forts as they will want to progress to their next first place badge. That brings new life to the game, becuase the guys left behind need to start playing and fighting for their place. The game still won't be easy but then again its not supposed to be easy, and to be honest easy is boring. This will also renew interest in PvP too as you will get teams that can fight through the rankings and do better than many would think.

More servers more quickly then the rest of the problems will fix itself ?