Clubs - Feature Additions/Improvements
Hey all. It's great to see clubs in from launch for the first time. However, there are definite improvements needed for clubs to get them to surpass or even just back to the level of where they were ...
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PJTierneyCM
Codemasters Team
Codemasters TeamThanks for the feedback everyone, keep it coming.
Let's try and use this thread as the single place for all Clubs suggestions if we can. I'm pinning it for easy access.
I passed this thread on to our Clubs/Racenet team a few days ago, but more feedback is always good.
Not only would any potential changes help all of you with your events, but it would help me and my team when it comes to organising official Club events too 🙂
Agree with OP, npiipo, and the others above on all the points. I felt that the way clubs were in DiRT Rally 2.0 needed improvement, but right now I wish we had that old system back compared to what we have.
Specifics:
1. Event Setup (improved user experience) [i]:
Ideally we would have the ability to set up custom championships and clubs from BOTH the website and in-game. Several people have commented that it is inconvenient to set up club events because you have to fire up your racing rig to do so... or use remote desktop, or install a ~100GB game on another computer for a single purpose. Spending extra time on the gaming rig, even to set up an event can be seen as problematic in the spousal acceptance department for some!
2. Mixed Classes/Event Cloning (wish):
Very much as a wish - the ability to have mixed classes in a single event in the same club. If that is never going to be possible, the ability to clone a stage/event/championship and then tweak something like having a different car class.3. Club Start time and Duration (improved user experience):
The current system is very confusing. The duration in days, hours, minutes in DR 2.0 was fine. The start time based on date and time in your time zone was perfect too. Right now, it seems very hard/unintuitive/maybe impossible to start an event later the same day, unless it is NOW. It could be fixed by having a 0 day option meaning today until midnight, but better yet a calendar-based system like DR2.
4. Scoring system (wish):
Busata's Four-Left bot is amazing, but how excellent would it be if we could customise the club scoring system to any extent. I was hoping the days of spreadsheets and customised websites would be close to being over.
5. Ability to see the degradation level of a stage (improved user experience):
It would be nice to be able to see the level of degradation in upcoming stages, so we can plan for tuning etc. Ideally, the event organisers could turn this on/off or disclosed/undisclosed6. Event Setup (improved user experience) [ii]:
A bit of a user interface issue with the whole game actually. When setting up an event, or in general, the selected "box/window/pane" is not highlighted enough - it's hard to tell unless you waste time comparing box outlines. Also boxes with parameters that can be changed and those that are "read-only" need to be differentiated a bit more obviously.
7. Quit Club and Return (bug):
I think this has not been mentioned. It appears that if you quit a club event after a stage, and then return, your car is fully repaired... and punctured tyre(s) replaced. The latter was a bug in DR 2.0, but it seems to have escalated to fixing the whole car in WRC. Of course, this makes a level playing field unenforceable.8. Split times/in-race standings (wish/user experience):
It looks like split times and in-race standings are disabled, perhaps only if the level playing field option for running order is selected. It's more realistic that you can't see where you stand if you are running as the first drivers, but it would be nice if that is for degradation only. I know not everyone wants to see split times etc., but some do.9. Queuing multiple championships (improved user experience):
This cannot be done. We cannot create multiple championships to run back to back. This feature, present in DR2.0, allowed creators to queue up a few championships and have them seamlessly start when the previous one finished. This was very useful.
Overall, the clubs scene would be a much better experience if it simply recreated the functionality present in DR 2.0. As it is, it does seem a big step backwards in multiple aspects. I was expecting more than parity with DR2.0.In order of importance, here are the issues that we are having within our league with clubs:
1. Quitting the club, and returning with no damage
If you quit a club event after a stage and then return, your car is fully repaired and punctured tyres are replaced.
2. Event standings not showing after each stage
You can't view the overall standings after a specific stage on the game, or on the Racenet website and app. In quick play and other single-player modes, the overall standings are displayed straight after the stage times. Not knowing where you are overall throughout a rally is pretty rubbish, and you only found out once you've completed the entire event so are having to add up numbers in your head throughout the X stage event.
3 Times for retired drivers / DNF drivers showing in the event standings
Retired drivers are not showing in the stage results or overall event standings, which makes it very confusing when trying to work out who finished where in the lower places - especially when you can only view individual stage times on the app, and not an overall standings after each stage like you could on DR2. Like the last game, it would be great if retired drivers had times of 15 and 30 minutes (depending on the stage lengths) and that they would show in all leaderboards.
4. Setting up the start time and duration:
We currently have the option to either start an event now, or in 1 day + time. Please allow a '0 day' option when setting up the time until an event start, so if it's 17:25 my time, I could set the event to open at 19:00 of the same day. This is how it was for DR2, but appears to have been removed for EA WRC.
Requests:
In clubs, the stage ends at the finish line like in time trial, but it would be great if drivers had to drive to the marshal like in DR2. This is how it is in other game modes such as career mode and quick play in EA WRC.
If I'm busy but need to set up an event, in the past I could jump on my phone and set the event up there, but now I have to wait until I get home and set it up through the game - which is going to delay the start time for some our events. It would be nice to have the ability to create events through the browser.
Could the 'reset to track' option be only selectable when a car is stopped at 0mph? Currently drivers can begin to fall down a cliff in clubs at somewhere like Greece and Corcisa, so they will quickly pause their game and select 'reset to track' meaning they only get a 5 second time penalty instead of an instant terminal damage which of course is not fair.
There doesn't appear to be any split times in clubs anymore - I quite liked this on DR2, but I suppose not everyone will be against this change! Maybe the option could be available to include split times so that you can see where you rank compared to the fastest time so far? We make the fastest drivers in our league run first, so it was always a good indicator for drivers running after to see where they place against the big runners.
Thank you for listening to our suggestions EA / PJ!
@Dom93iom You can view the overall standings of a club by going to "Event Overview", clicking on the current event and showing the leaderboard via the prompt in the bottom right corner
Something else I'd add is just the general navigation within the clubs menus.
For example, having to go three levels deep to see details of stages, not being able to view friends results in the leaderboards during an even, having to scroll through all of your clubs if you back out to the top clubs menu rather than starting on the club you just exited, etc., etc..
The navigation within DR2 seemed great in comparison. Replicating that level of ease of navigation would be fantastic.
Besides all the great points already brought up, I would really like to see the return of having forced cockpit view as an option. I've hosted a club >4 years in Dirt Rally 2.0 with this as one of its core tenets.
Also we need to be able set date and starting time on our clubs like dirt rallies before. Also we are forced to make several clubs if we cant mix locations and have multiclass for use. This game is close to perfect for online rallying. These litlle thing s we have waited since dirt rally 1
When you create a club you only can fix the category, not a car.
We are a community that manages some championships with a fixed car and there is no option... and then some people choose the wrong car and it is disqualified.
Also, I agree with the OPEN / MODERATED / CLOSED option.
It's really an extra work to have more friends for managing a new club. Previous three options were absolutely better.
I can't even get Racenet to work for me in EA WRC. I can log in, but no games show up, and my profile never loads properly. Can I get some help?
Could you add an option in online games to see other players' cars? My friend refuses to play your game with me because there are no other players on the track. Even though it’s true that in real races you can't see other drivers, this should be technically feasible in a game, right?
