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2 years ago

Inconsistent AI Times

Hello drivers,


We have seen a number reports regarding inconsistent AI performance in EA SPORTS WRC.


While the team is currently investigating and working on fixes where possible, we need additional information to help fully diagnose the issue and develop a definitive fix for a future patch.


If you are encountering this issue, please reply in this thread with the following information:

  • AI Difficulty Setting:
  • Stage:
  • If Career, then which career event it is:
  • Time of Day:
  • Weather Condition:
  • Vehicle Class:

Thank you very much for helping us in our investigation.


-Groguet

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Hello drivers,

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We have seen a number reports regarding inconsistent AI performance in EA SPORTS WRC.

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While the team is currently investigating and working on fixes where possible, we need additional information to help fully diagnose the issue and develop a definitive fix for a future patch.

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If you are encountering this issue, please reply in this thread with the following information:

\n\n\n

Thank you very much for helping us in our investigation.

\n


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We have seen a number reports regarding inconsistent AI performance in EA SPORTS WRC.

\n


While the team is currently investigating and working on fixes where possible, we need additional information to help fully diagnose the issue and develop a definitive fix for a future patch.

\n


If you are encountering this issue, please reply in this thread with the following information:

\n\n\n

Thank you very much for helping us in our investigation.

\n


-Groguet

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In career, AI level 100, in my JWRC season and (new career) WRC2 season across many events, quitting in-between or not. Sometimes WR speed fast sometimes minutes off pace. Usually fast in early stages, slow in late stages, never noticed it the other way around. 

Another thing, AI seems impossibly fast in acceleration heavy areas (think start of a stage just straight), but almost always loses time in long high speed stretches even against default setup gearing. 

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I can say that where it definitely doesn't happen for me is if I create a quick rally to practice for a club and do all my driving in one setting. I never quit to the menu, or to the desktop, or to anything else when I'm doing quick rallies. I just drive them straight through. I never experience the bug under those conditions.

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It's a slightly different story...
I am playing wrc on ps5.
I'm getting an error when playing career mode.

-detail.
An error occurs when the Career Benefact goal is full.
The patch is latest 1.3.0.

Please fix it.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2023-12-02T05:58:34.966Z","lastPublishTime":"2023-12-02T05:58:34.966Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1760},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:ea-sports-wrc-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:wrc-technical-issues-en/message:8330134/message:8330147","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:1224569":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1224569","uid":1224569,"login":"mistrelwood","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2023-11-01T21:09:23.260Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1721239543000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:1224569"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:8330148":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:8330148","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:8330148":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1224569"},"id":"message:8330148","revisionNum":1,"uid":8330148,"depth":2,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:wrc-technical-issues-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:8330145"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:8330134"},"subject":"Re: Inconsistent AI Times","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:8330148"},"body":"

Another thing, AI seems impossibly fast in acceleration heavy areas (think start of a stage just straight), but almost always loses time in long high speed stretches even against default setup gearing. 


Apparently the progress bar doesn’t show the true pace of the opponent, but just constant average speed. I assume to each checkpoint, after which the next section is again averaged. A bit we questionable to make it that way, but here we are.

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@Wallumosa
I'm no dev, but could this have something to do with the saved setups nullifying bug. I mean, if it has something to do with the save files. Someone told somewhere that the setups work if you name all of them seperatively. For example *car_name_location* instead of just *location*. Haven't tried that myself.

Having unique names for the car setups does not circumvent the issue. After a day or a few loading the setup is still corrupted. (Or the save itself gets corrupted, same result.)

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The problem has appeared after doing the first 3  stages of sweeden then I exited the game and the next day I continued with the stage 4. In stage four the times were normal and I was second with 2 seconds difference. Then I did immediately (without assistance park) the stage åsnes and I was not driving very good because the heavy snow but I was 3:45 mins faster than the second one.

The problems come after quitting and starting the event again in other day/time

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Multiple occasions, most recent:

AI: 84

Career event: Rally Sweden

Stages: 3,4 and 5 (all won by 2 minutes+)

Vehicle Class: WRC2

This was in second season of career mode, happened identically in first season. Same happened with Rally Japan first season too.

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This happened to me in career mode

Difficulty: 100

Stage: unsure---

Career Event : Week 4 - FIA WOrld Rally Championship - FIA WRC2 Championship - RALLYE MONTE-CARLO - EVENT 1 / 7 WEEK 2 / 2 - event length setting - LONG

I was having a good even back and forth with the AI's driving my WRC2 builder car, however at around the last/second last service stop and second last stage I had quit intending to continue later, when i returned the AI seemed to run fine for the second last stage but had huge stops at about 3/4 of first sector, then similar in second sector, landing at about 2 minutes behind by the end of the stage.

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Video1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEhQ2yoP_74

Video2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liMsSJ3uX7Q

(Video1 features the whole stage, whilist Video2 has the rest of the stage & splits/results).

I paused the game during service before the stage and went for a walk (20mins?), which might have been the cause of this.

Event length set to long.

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AI is unusually fast with H2 FWD class. In Alforja Iberia which is a 16km tarmac stage, 1st place AI did a 11:10 which is the same as the Time Trial WR at the time for that stage. 

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