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S3SSioN_SoL's avatar
S3SSioN_SoL
Seasoned Ace
2 months ago

Matchmaking not filling small modes with AI to start the round, Bot Quota issue

‼️STILL AFFECTING MATCHMAKING AFTER 1.1.2.0 UPDATE ‼️

In summary there's 3 bugs affecting Official Matchmaking servers:
1. Bot Backfill is not filling small team modes to the required players to start the game. Giving CQC modes long unbearable waiting times as the "populating with bots" message doesn't fill the server with enough bots to start the game, stopping shy of 4 remaining 'players'. There's also an enforced maximum bot count per team or Bot Quota ratio, making bots disappear when there's a certain amount of players on a team. This is counter-intuitive and should be removed, bots should continue to supplement the player-count regardless of how many humans are present, until the lobby is full to capacity with humans.
2. Bot Backfill is not filling large team modes to 64/64 capacity. Causing imbalance and empty games.
3. Bot Backfill is not replacing bots after a human leaves the server.
4. Possible bug with "Casual Breakthrough" or just an oversight, the game doesn't start until there's 8 players in the game. This is counter-intuitive.

These bugs are not isolated incidents, they're widespread continuously affecting the global span of servers.

It seems this change is what's affecting it  [BFComms] Reintroducing Bots to Verified Experiences | EA Forums - 12889166 

Domination from 5th Nov 2025 where Bots never filled the enemy team, showing the Bot Quota issue:

Bots need to fill the entire lobby, the Bot Quota that's in place is doing more harm than good.

Domination from 1st Nov 2025 where Bots never filled the lobby:

This is the same bug that had its page locked: Latest Game Update Broke Matchmaking!!!!!! | EA Forums - 12808903   

Low player count regions can't play small team modes because bot fill is not working as intended. Larger modes are also not bot backfilling to capacity leading to "empty games". The only time CQC modes can be played is during peak player hours when there's enough people searching for these modes where as before, you could search for 'King of the Hill', find a game, and if enough players did not join to meet the 'minimum players required' count, it would supplement with bots and the game would start. This is NO LONGER happening, the lobby is forcing a strict requirement of players, making these game modes unplayable during all times of day in lower player count regions. The same strict adverse requirement is being forced in Casual Breakthrough. Please, either make the bots fill to capacity or get rid of the 'minimum players required', it seems counter-intutive to have bot backfill but then enforce a strict 'minimum players required' count.

Now that RedSec is out, these lobbies almost never fill up with humans. Improve the Bot Quota, let the bots continue to supplement the server when humans join instead of removing the bots.

Furthermore this is part of another bug which continues into larger lobbies, where bots vanish and reduce the overall player count on a team for every human that joins, they should instead fill every single remaining slot on the team up to 32. If the server has 32 humans, the remaining 32 slots should be filled with bots until more humans join. This has also led into another bug where in some instances, the Bots never re-fill after a human leaves the server.

I cannot overstate enough how boring the games are when lobbies are not filling to 64/64 by not properly supplementing with bots. The whole integration of bots into matchmaking is seriously bugged and needs to be looked at ASAP, especially with RedSec siphoning away players in the lower player count regions.

Please just make bots backfill entire lobbies and make the matchmaker keep humans together between games instead of starting new lobbies.

This bug is without a doubt collateral damage from the recent backend changes to how the matchmaker works shortly before Season 1's update. The issue has persisted since then, well into Season 1.

King of the Hill where as players joined, the bots were kicked out the lobby, reducing the total players and defeating the point of the bot fill.

 

 

Breakthrough where Bots are NOT filling the server to capacity resulting in lob-sided lobbies, 'empty games' and an unfair experience.

89 Comments

  • Leviathon888's avatar
    Leviathon888
    Seasoned Traveler
    27 days ago

    Yea they don’t really care , so much time in lobbies in general, IMO huge issue that COD won’t have at all . 3 to 10 minutes wait on a good day is rubbish for a round the lasts 10 minutes. And yea small modes still never start a lot of the time .

  • Haven't been able to play the smaller modes (anything other that Conquest, Rush, or Breakthrough) since the game launched. I'm in a smaller market - Oceania.

    It might help if both consoles were combined in the 'Console Only' player pool - just a thought.

  • LycanGears's avatar
    LycanGears
    Seasoned Rookie
    24 days ago

    The lack of interaction from EA staff on all these major topics is baffling to me.

  • Leviathon888's avatar
    Leviathon888
    Seasoned Traveler
    23 days ago

    After the Update its unbelievably got worse, no changes to bot backfill as far as i can see and... Now matchmaking taking 3 minutes... so 3 minutes then load in wait another 3 for backfill and then see if the game will start from there if not quit out and try something else. This is getting so stupid now. Are we at Troll level here?  It just feels really disrespectful at this point.

  • Leviathon888's avatar
    Leviathon888
    Seasoned Traveler
    23 days ago

    Also cant play the new mode because they turned off backfill for it as part of a fix which looking at the notes makes no sense as to the issue they were fixing. Will be re-introduced at a later date they say...  So that means within a day or two right as the game mode is limited right? Don't hold your breath lol. 

  • ezamomar's avatar
    ezamomar
    Seasoned Newcomer
    21 days ago

    After the new patch, me and friends can't even play the gauntlet mode (pity since we really like the idea of that mode, it offers something different other than BR) maybe it got affected because of the new mode sabotage that takes forever for players to fill in. The small modes feel like time wasting now. Please EA fix this. Honestly this is killing the game.

  • oldf6rt's avatar
    oldf6rt
    Seasoned Newcomer
    15 days ago

    Why is this still an issue this far after launch?

    I am waiting for 30 mins to load a a game because of low player count & the bots failing to fill the remaining slots.

    Pointless in buying this game if I cant play the stupid thing.

    Never again.

     

  • pappapoes's avatar
    pappapoes
    Seasoned Traveler
    15 days ago

    they put it back to 16 players required ffs now games never start. wtf is this

    edit: its just like this for the close quarters battle in the ‘BF6 FREE TRIAL’, its normal 12 players in the normal cqb attrition and lockdown. weird

  • Leviathon888's avatar
    Leviathon888
    Seasoned Traveler
    12 days ago

    I'm playing other games. Its been far to long. Also if i do come back to play (If matchmaking improves) i wont be spending any money on this game. Its a shame but all anyone can do is not pay going forward. No one cares but yea time to move on. 

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