LE: KeyError(SmallBusiness_OpenClose) when placing non-business lot

HI RickxAbsinthe43​ 

would you mind posting the LE ? You can't attach it here, you'll need to copy/paste the content.

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<report><version>2</version><sessionid>6e590f12e20f1fa66823270c</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2025-05-13 19:05:59</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.114.46.1030-1.200.000.655.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>state.py:2826</categoryid><desyncid>6e590f12e20f1fa66823270c</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception in &lt;function c_api_create_object at 0x00007FF4B3898290&gt;, args: (1030221116600356178, 81168, 0, 0, 1, 1), kwargs: {}&#13;&#10;KeyError(SmallBusiness_OpenClose) (KeyError: SmallBusiness_OpenClose)&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 183, in wrapper&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\system.py", line 79, in c_api_create_object&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\system.py", line 211, in create_object&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\object_manager.py", line 736, in add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\indexed_manager.py", line 183, in add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\indexed_manager.py", line 317, in call_pre_add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\__init__.py", line 98, in wrapped_method&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 2439, in pre_add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 3055, in set_state&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\__init__.py", line 470, in exported_func&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 2826, in get_state&#13;&#10;KeyError: SmallBusiness_OpenClosertim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 25.30&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0xdd4141d5&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,453,0,5966&#13; &#10;Modded: False&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 11 10.0.22631 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop GPU  32.0.15.7602, GUID: 3E09CF6F-F77C-11ED-90EE-A71D7D14563A&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>
<report><version>2</version><sessionid>6e590f12e20f1fa66823270c</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2025-05-13 19:05:59</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.114.46.1030-1.200.000.655.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>state.py:2826</categoryid><desyncid>6e590f12e20f1fa66823270c</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception in &lt;function c_api_create_object at 0x00007FF4B3898290&gt;, args: (1030221116600356178, 81168, 0, 0, 1, 1), kwargs: {}&#13;&#10;KeyError(SmallBusiness_OpenClose) (KeyError: SmallBusiness_OpenClose)&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 183, in wrapper&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\system.py", line 79, in c_api_create_object&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\system.py", line 211, in create_object&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\object_manager.py", line 736, in add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\indexed_manager.py", line 183, in add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\indexed_manager.py", line 317, in call_pre_add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\__init__.py", line 98, in wrapped_method&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 2439, in pre_add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 3055, in set_state&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\__init__.py", line 470, in exported_func&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 2826, in get_state&#13;&#10;KeyError: SmallBusiness_OpenClosertim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 25.30&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0xdd4141d5&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,453,0,5966&#13; &#10;Modded: False&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 11 10.0.22631 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop GPU  32.0.15.7602, GUID: 3E09CF6F-F77C-11ED-90EE-A71D7D14563A&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>
<report><version>2</version><sessionid>6e590f12e20f1fa66823270c</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2025-05-13 19:06:00</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.114.46.1030-1.200.000.655.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>state.py:2826</categoryid><desyncid>6e590f12e20f1fa66823270c</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception in &lt;function c_api_create_object at 0x00007FF4B3898290&gt;, args: (1030221116600356178, 81168, 0, 0, 1, 1), kwargs: {}&#13;&#10;KeyError(SmallBusiness_OpenClose) (KeyError: SmallBusiness_OpenClose)&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 183, in wrapper&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\system.py", line 79, in c_api_create_object&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\system.py", line 211, in create_object&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\object_manager.py", line 736, in add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\indexed_manager.py", line 183, in add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\indexed_manager.py", line 317, in call_pre_add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\__init__.py", line 98, in wrapped_method&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 2439, in pre_add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 3055, in set_state&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\__init__.py", line 470, in exported_func&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 2826, in get_state&#13;&#10;KeyError: SmallBusiness_OpenClosertim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 25.30&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0xdd4141d5&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,453,0,5966&#13; &#10;Modded: False&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 11 10.0.22631 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop GPU  32.0.15.7602, GUID: 3E09CF6F-F77C-11ED-90EE-A71D7D14563A&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>
<report><version>2</version><sessionid>6e590f12e20f1fa66823270c</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2025-05-13 19:06:01</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.114.46.1030-1.200.000.655.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>state.py:2826</categoryid><desyncid>6e590f12e20f1fa66823270c</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception in &lt;function c_api_create_object at 0x00007FF4B3898290&gt;, args: (1030221116600356178, 81168, 0, 0, 1, 1), kwargs: {}&#13;&#10;KeyError(SmallBusiness_OpenClose) (KeyError: SmallBusiness_OpenClose)&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 183, in wrapper&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\system.py", line 79, in c_api_create_object&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\system.py", line 211, in create_object&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\object_manager.py", line 736, in add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\indexed_manager.py", line 183, in add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\indexed_manager.py", line 317, in call_pre_add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\__init__.py", line 98, in wrapped_method&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 2439, in pre_add&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 3055, in set_state&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\__init__.py", line 470, in exported_func&#13;&#10;  File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\objects\components\state.py", line 2826, in get_state&#13;&#10;KeyError: SmallBusiness_OpenClosertim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 25.30&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0xdd4141d5&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,453,0,5966&#13; &#10;Modded: False&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 11 10.0.22631 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop GPU  32.0.15.7602, GUID: 3E09CF6F-F77C-11ED-90EE-A71D7D14563A&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>
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I'm new to this new forum, I honestly thought my LE attached. Anyway, I hope this is what you're after.

The LE contains XML which is why you can't upload. At AHQ there was a workaround as you could upload it as rar file but those are not allowed here so copy/pasting is the way to go :D

Do you just get the LE or can you not place the lot ? Is this the only lot you have issues with and did you create it from scratch or did you download something from the gallery and change from there ?

To be sure, you do own the pack ?

I can place the lot, other than the LE nothing seems to be too unusual. This is the only lot I have noticed with the issue, but I haven't spent any time building anthing else all week. And yeah, I created this lot from scratch after bulldozing the BFF house. And I do own the pack, I own almost everything except a few kits. I also repaired my game before I started a new unmodded save, and it didn't help unfortunately. Thought it might also be helpful to mention that.

Would you mind putting the lot in the gallery and posting the name here ?

I put it on the Gallery. The lot did contain some CC so it's missing some doors... but it's up for testing under the name The Smith Residence TEST. I don't get the error every time but it does happen often.

Thanks. I can dupe the LE for the lot.

The BFF lot you build it on never had a small business before you bulldozed it either, right ?

I went straight into the lot when I started a new save after evicting the household, so I believe there was never a small business there. I didn’t add one.

Sorry to bump, but I found something that might be important to mention. Something else I've noticed, I've started building another lot and when I load into a lot that was never a Small Business, the Small Business items tab is the first thing the game loads into, opposed to the usual Build/Buy objects. I also get the red Small Business dollar sign while building non-Small Business lots.

Could you add some pics ?

This is the only one I can get. You know how when you build a lot of a certain type, such as a lounge, the game shows you objects suitable for that lot type? I see the small business items when I first load into a normal resendential sometimes. As for the other one, certain items trigger what I'm describing. I don't really know which items they are unfortunately. I'm not sure if any of this is normal it just seemed related to me.

Not seen this in my game. The game must think it's a small business lot type.

Do you have this on some specific lots only or on any ? Does it happen on specific lot types ? Or just empty lots ?

Have you tried a new save for testing (without placing that faulty lot)

Seems to happen on any? I tried a new save to build a large colonial on a completely different lot. I’m not sure if the lot has to strictly be empty, I guess I saw this after I started building. I didn’t place the faulty lot. I have only noticed this on residential so far. 

Thanks for the extra info.