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masaEnd
Seasoned Newcomer
8 months ago
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Loading Legacy Family Tree freezes game

"Incorrect connection occurs when there are 10 or more wives and 30 or more descendants.

Tree Collapse occurs when there are 50 or more descendants."

This issue occurred before the family tree update.

The new family tree freezes (app unresponsive), possibly because it has more than 100 descendants.

The family tree before the update displays without freezing (app unresponsive), but the tree collapses.

Possible cause:

The field displaying the family tree is not properly expanded.

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34 Comments

  • masaEnd's avatar
    masaEnd
    Seasoned Newcomer
    4 months ago

    Please note that this is a machine-generated translation.

    ① The issue where "the family tree does not display" arises from the lack of a fixed starting point (root). If someone has 100 children, and then has an affair with one of those children's spouses and has another child with them, the problem is that the display will show that child along with all 100 other children. Because the display method is vague and lacks a clear starting point, it cannot be processed correctly. At the same time, the problem is that even though the parents only need to line up 100 children in one row, they line up those 100 children in a second row, a third row, and so on, making it impossible to process them all.

    ② The problem with "the family tree not displaying correctly" is because the system is rewriting relationships without permission. This issue involves problems such as the spouse becoming a sibling when switching from "CAS" to Life Mode after loading save data. This could be easily resolved by allowing players to designate specific relationships as "immutable" (locked). If you have the reasons for the rewriting, such as "It's not in the rules," "The percentages don't match," or "It's an exception," along with error logs of why it couldn't be done, you can probably fix several bugs.

    In programming, it's quite common for one "bug" to lead to another.😅

  • LMH555's avatar
    LMH555
    New Spectator
    3 months ago

    I can't see my large legacy family tree on the family tree ui. If I select the tree, it will show me a blank box and the game will freeze then crash. I have done this with my cc/mods removed and it is still the case. Please fix!

  • masaEnd's avatar
    masaEnd
    Seasoned Newcomer
    3 months ago

    Please note that this is a machine-generated translation.

    Update: The issue remains unresolved even after the July 21, 2026 update.

    It is not a memory issue; it is a programming issue.

    All that was needed was a way to simply display the family tree as it actually is.

    However, because they made the family tree an object that Sims can physically interact with, the process of "displaying" it now involves layers of Sim-related logic—such as control, restrictions, monitoring, and referencing—which causes the game to freeze.

  • masaEnd's avatar
    masaEnd
    Seasoned Newcomer
    3 months ago

    Please note that this is a machine translation.

    Regarding the issue "Doug: More information needed": isn't this happening because EA implemented what programmers call a "bypass" or a "pathway" for the system?

    ① Variable name from the program's perspective: "Family Tree Tapestry"

    ② Player (user) perspective: "UI" > "Simology" > "Family Tree"

    Both ① and ② share the same single family tree program.

    The "Family Tree Tapestry" is governed by Sim/NPC control and environmental variables.

    The "Family Tree" found under "Simology" can only be created through gameplay, console commands, or mods.

    The "bypass" or "pathway" refers to a mechanism that allows the "Simology" family tree—which normally relies on gameplay, commands, or mods—to be modified via the "Sim control and environmental variable control" systems instead.

     

    In my case, the system cannot handle the processing, so the game freezes whenever I open the "Family Tree."

    Others report:

    Married couples become unmarried/partners after entering CAS

    Relationships and growing sims are completely broken.

    Legacy Family Trees: Tree collapses/Overlaps/Wrong connections (1.124.55)

    Partnered Sims turn into siblings

     

    The solution is simple: Replace the family tree program in "Family Tree Tapestry" with a completely different family tree program from the one in "Simology's" "Family Tree" program.

     

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