Couldn't find any new posts about this so bumping this up as Season 9 (Legacy) has added a new report button in the game;
Would like official confirmation now that this has been added to the game. Does any bans for smurfing also now ban your main account? Does this just mean your smurfs get banned? What is the official stance on smurfing now that there is an actual in-game report button for smurfing
I suspect more of this goes on that we are officially aware of. Cheating too.
Some of the games I've had there is no explanation to what I witnessed.
Example: I was on Kings Canyon on the roof of Market. Gunfire below. I staked out the stairs coming up. A caustic is crouched creeping up the stairs back to me as I'm looking from above/behind. Aim down sights, take my time (Hemlock) and let him have it. Had him totally dead to rights. Didn't drop a shot. After my 2nd burst he had spun around and dropped me instantly.
Sorry, no way.
- DR
That stuff is always nuts to me if I'm using a burst weapon and in between burst 2 and burst 3 which would kill him, he spins 180 and ends me. I just assume it has to be ping and go about my day cause where I live doesn't have a server so I got about 120 ping on the best day.
Easy!
lvl 14. 4K dmg badge, 20 kill badge...or just very good in the game on bronze level. Yes...it could be that some very good FPS player just started to play with the game and dominates the lobby in 2 days on level 14....but 98% is not that case 🙂 They just will have fun over kill low level players...and laugh on it...and show the 20kill badge. Because it is a free to play game, you may have tons of accounts. Only developers could tell, that if somebody with the same IP address is playing with many other accounts (never in the same time...rather than always switching).
Because the ranked system (split, and you may not go down below your highest level...like gold), many high level players could land in bronze. But this is normal. If this is they main account. They will go up fast...till then, will ruin every low level players game...therefore is the split logic in my opinion bad. They should stay on high level. Then, if you find a very good player with lvl 14 on bronze...it is definitely a smurf. Who ruins everybody's game.
Matchmaking is ABSOLUTELY necessary on casual. When games are too difficult for new people to learn because they keep getting tanked by veterans looking for easy kills, EA and Respawn very quickly lose new customers. It's why I never played League. When it first came out, I couldn't figure out what the hell I was doing before getting slaughtered left and right and being called names by teammates. If I can't learn it, I won't know it.
The devs ARE responsible. And they've found through extensive testing that the matchmaking system actually leads to a greater player-base gain and a better experience for newer people. For me, I'm new to FPS's in general. When I started, I didn't know what "ADS' was and was used to simple "shoot 'em up" games. The most difficult being the Borderlands franchises. That said, I had a LOT to learn when I came to Apex. Hell, I still do. BUT without the Matchmaking, I'd get frustrated with getting merc'd left and right and find another game that lets you develop your skills.
There are lobbies I land hot, get wiped. But there are other lobbies where I can easily make it to Top 3 without breaking sweat. That variety allows me to become slightly better with every game, and learn from my decisions in-game.
Yeah you get Smurfs in low-rank casuals. But most of the games are pretty evenly matched with my skillset to push me up. I'll admit, I have a Smurf account. But that only to play with some friends who are waaaaaaay more casual about the game than I am, and getting them into lobbies they can handle. I'm nowhere near the skill to carry a team in the lobbies my level generates, so that's the purpose my Smurf account serves.
In all fairness, my stats aren't all that much different; so it's not giving ME a competitive advantage, but it does make it to where my level 40 friend doesn't get overwhelmed when coming into my lobbies when I'm nearly level 400.
Man its redicilous how many smurfing accounts you see those day's in apex..low levels with high skiil badges like 4K damage , headshotbadge , 20+kills tsss...And as you say not even talked about the cheats and mods they use , so many XIM and cronus gamers also with aimassssist and mods on mouse and keybord, aimbots , no recoil hacks etc etc.. and they do just nothing about it !! ranked arenas is one big joke , how many hacking smurf accounts are in there is unreal , even more then in ranked BR.. I got more then 3000h gameplay and several times platinum or double platinum in ranked BR solo Qiuing on pc , so im not really that bad in the game i suppose to , and still get my * kicked by level 10 or so , clear shots but no hits from my side , while they shoot me like im a magnet to the bullets ; its not even funny anymore..EA should make work of this because apex is the game for hackers those days..
@flatt1e wrote:
@FamousColehow can you tell if someone is smurfing tho, maybe they're very good at FPS and played titanfall before
It's extremely easy to spot by seeing placement choices rotations and movement used, as well as weapon control - they similar but not the same and it really takes time getting this adjusted. Also I played a lot of Titanfall 2 and it's not much there that is transferable without a lot of practice outside of playing a shadow at halloween event 😉
On top of that if you report them they can check how many accounts there are on that hwid, then they can try evaluate if it's the same user or different users playing. They have a lot of tool at respawns side, and being a vivid fps player myself I remember starting apex, it's s steep hill. You will see a typical skilled fps player have excellent aiming mechanics but lacking in the other Ares, but when you check all the boxes chance is extremely high that is a smurf
@flatt1e wrote:
@FamousColehow can you tell if someone is smurfing tho, maybe they're very good at FPS and played titanfall before
I have zero problem with this. The question would then be "why are they in my lobby?"
Ban everyone after season splits. Because they are smurfing.
Smurfing should never be banned because there's nothing technically illegal. It should be prevented and avoided, of course.
@DoYaSeeMe wrote:Smurfing should never be banned because there's nothing technically illegal. It should be prevented and avoided, of course.
Smurfing been ruining games and made people shun the game since sbmm was made, games died from it so yes it should be bannable, not only the smurf account but the main account should get a smack. But I think the smurf term should be defined much better because not all smurfing is bad, the smurfing that pray on "the weak" should be smacked hard. I know its hard to differ but in general statistics wise it should be extremely easy to track. A hwid repeating account creation and has myriads of smurf accounts made specifically to ruin ranked low level or exploit the grace period/games you get in the start. I seen plenty of people do this, and I seen people making content making new accounts all the time. This is what is hurting the game and should be handled as its turning new players away from the game and the steady recruitment slows down fast and people give up before they actually can progress and get into the game properly.
@StelioRokos you do realize apex is one of the top games worldwide right? Theres over 100million worldwide. PUBG had a max of 3.24 million. Do your facts this game is going nowhere for a long time. An as much as I hate it fortnite will probably never get topped it's too kid friendly.
a smurf is a person making a new acount spesifically to circumvent the matchmaking to prey on low levels and newbies. That is the very definition, and hence reportable, its even got its own little report segment on the PC version.
Making a new account for other reasons like changing platform, or otherwise legit reason, maybe even having two characters, one to play ranked solo and one to play ranked with the team for instance is legit in my eyes and not smurfing, but those characters will both be fairly high level. But those characters will not be deleted or abandoned and new ones created everytime you need fresh fooder. The hardest smurfs recreates several times a day to make sure they can keep as little resistance as possible. This is the shait that ruins the game, and yes in a huge way and way worse, idd take a toxinc mofo any day instead of a smurf, i can just mute him.
@OldTreeCreeperYeah he says it right there, players that abuse the system and create new accounts to farm lower level lobbies.... that is EXACTLY what doing a Solo to masters challenge is, a loophole giving everyone permission to create smurf accounts.
@SILVERisSORRY I wasn't aware of this until recently and thought smurfing was simply having a second account.
