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DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
6 years ago

Re: Apex legends Caustic nerf

@TorridestJet568 Agreed, the canisters are basically useless now aside from camping a building in which you can set up in... Even in those situations they have limited value IMO.

I quit playing him. The last time I did I tossed a trap down next to a player who was picking up loot.He proceeds to pick up gun 2 stacks of ammo and then shoots down the trap. I start trying to box him and during that process tossed down 2 more traps. Not one was activated and I was dead.

It was really bad, to the point I have not played caustic again. He has some of the worst abilities in the game combined with the second worst hit box in the game. You then have the legends who have the best hit boxes in the game combined with the best abilities in the game.

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  • BigBlackCaustic's avatar
    BigBlackCaustic
    6 years ago
    @DarthValtrex Gotta have to disagree here, while i think the Caustix nerf was bad design and unwarranted, Caustic had one of the best universal abilities in the game. My win rate and K&D significantly improved since i picked him up as my main back in S2. But nerfing him into a niche role while completely ignoring his downsides into a pure camper is a bad move imo.
  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago
    @BigBlackCaustic Point taken, I don't main him but definitely played him a lot this season until the nerf to canisters. I've tried it a few times but just get frustrated with how easily the canisters are shot down. I don't expect them to win fights for me, but I would like to be able to at least control the flow of the fight and areas around me with them.
  • BigBlackCaustic's avatar
    BigBlackCaustic
    6 years ago
    @DarthValtrex Caustic is not an easy Legend to learn, especially offensively. Thats why people used to camp with him a lot even before the nerf.

    I rarely came across other Caustics that used aggressive tactics, only a few times. Its strange that this aspect was the one that got nerfed when most people i saw complaining always talked about him camping.
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    6 years ago
    @BigBlackCaustic Agreed. My win rate went up when I switched from path to caustic in season 4.

    The rotating barrels not going thru windows is annoying as hell now tho.
  • TorridestJet568's avatar
    TorridestJet568
    6 years ago

    I'm #3 in OCE 20k kills on caustic. I have 400 season 5 wins. But this nerf is ridiculous 

  • MandatoryIDtag's avatar
    MandatoryIDtag
    6 years ago

    Yeaah it's just annoyance frankly, I hardly play him since they implemented this change, it's screwed my whole caustic play style.

    If I wanted to camp for 20 minutes I'd play warzone.

  • MandatoryIDtag's avatar
    MandatoryIDtag
    6 years ago

    @matzesingt  And?

    We're not throwing grenades, we're throwing self deploying traps. 

    Repeatedly making the same redundant point doesn't make it relevant to the issue at hand lol. 😛

  • matzesingt's avatar
    matzesingt
    6 years ago
    @MandatoryIDtag point is if players cant win a fight as caustic cuz they cant throw traps in enemys face then they simply cant play fps...if you can only win a fight when you * the enemy before then you actually need to practise some aiming 😉
  • MandatoryIDtag's avatar
    MandatoryIDtag
    6 years ago

    @matzesingt  Throwing traps in peoples faces has nothing to do with the issue at hand, that's stupidity and I'm really not sure why you would think that's the issue....unless of course you don't actually play caustic and are failing to see the point lol.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    6 years ago
    @matzesingt None of us in this thread that play caustic throw traps in people faces as grenades when in a fight.
  • BigBlackCaustic's avatar
    BigBlackCaustic
    6 years ago

    @matzesingtThere is nothing about your argument that isn't stupid.

    You can justify any decision with it, no matter how it affects balance.
    "You just can't aim" is a fallacy and does not consider anything that affects the outcome of a fight that isn't aim itself, which is only one factor by itself among a dozen.

    But if you wanna repeat your one and only easily dismissible point over and over again hoping it'd make it valid somehow then be my guest.

  • matzesingt's avatar
    matzesingt
    6 years ago
    @BigBlackCaustic Imagine most agents have tacticals that are not that strong in the mid of a fight..and caustic is clearly not one of the worst when it comes to that, so asking for reverting a necessary nerf is insane,Fighting against a good caustic in the last rings was more then cancer and it still can be. There was barely any counterplay to it when he threw the barrels basicly in your face.
    I even started to main BH to * up caustics thats how depressing it is to play against caustic, and the moment i see a damn barrel somewhere i sure as hell hunt that guy down even if i have to chase him all over the map... and so far ive been lucky to not find a single caustic in plat(currently) that can actually aim without his gas giving him the big boy adv.
  • asukojo's avatar
    asukojo
    6 years ago

    @matzesingt 

    We don't ask much, we only ask to KEEP the original way to disable the trap, shoot the bottom of the barrel, that's it.

    Is that too much to ask ??

    What is your excuse ?  you can't aim the bottom now ??

  • asukojo's avatar
    asukojo
    6 years ago

    You can AIM the bottom right, it's not that hard !

  • asukojo's avatar
    asukojo
    6 years ago

    That's EXACTLY problem, you don't need to aim to win the battle with Caustic anymore.

    Everything is SO HUGE, his trap is HUGE, Caustic is HUGE, you can close your eyes, you can kill him easily.

  • asukojo's avatar
    asukojo
    6 years ago

    @matzesingt Based on your on word : " if you can only win a fight when you * the enemy before then you actually need to practise some aiming "

    Since you're so good in aiming, I don't see the reason you can't shoot the bottom of the barell, right ?

  • asukojo's avatar
    asukojo
    6 years ago

    @EA_David

    @EA_Kent

    We should NOT change the mechanic of the trap regardless who shooting it (caustic or enemy).

        - Bottom : Disable

        - Top       : Trigger

    The only change with this patch, you can disable it early before it fully deployed.

    So I honestly think this's a serious bug that must be fixed.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    6 years ago
    @asukojo Do you have any more videos where shooting the top disables it? The only one I've seen that you posted was really strange.

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