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In pursuit of keeping this thread alive, do you have any proposals for a meaningful nerf to Horizon?
- @Axs5626Sxa5001 Just like scanning should not be a passive, no fall stun should never be a thing in game. For the lift, up the timer slightly or make people go up the lift slow, like valk slowly rises when she flies. Also make it loud and people on it loud. Octanes pad can be heard from miles. Valks jets are extremely loud.
Another option would be to eliminate any healing or shooting on the lift. Path and valk can do neither. Why can a whole team? - CCbathwater2 years agoSeasoned Ace@hayhor I came across alot of... dogwater Horizons. I destroy them, but they tac, bat, auto health regen, and now I lost. Bruh. If they're allowed to continue that practice I want to be able to pop bats while in void. Plain and simple.
she should get a delay to her Q same as they did to Wraith, both had to get out of jail card but they nerfed Wraith at the end, and the same should happen to Horizon.
her whole kit is very noob friendly and very easy to be good at when playing Horizon because the whole character and all of her kit are very forgiving.
Q, just throw the first shot you receive and shield up while no one is able to shoot you.
her Ult, pray and spray, just throw it cuz enemies have less than a second to react.
her Q is dead silent
her footsteps are nonexistent even worse than Revenant who actually supposed to have silent footsteps while crouched as a passive but she got it as a design fault.
her Movement, she is the ONLY legend who can move as if floating in the air and she is the only one who can perform all the maneuvers that no other legend in the whole game can perform
hitbox, average size slightly bigger than the smallest one ( LL and wraith)
and I think a lot of you noticed how she turn a 360 while shooting due to a problem in her model which is an additional distraction ( if you didn't just tell me and I will post a couple of videos of that.
no offense but it's not the skills it's the broken legend you are playing.
I would love to see how some people I encounter will perform playing another legend.
seer and Horizon both are big mistakes in this game and need to be nerfed ASAP .....then show us the real skills.
I main lifeline, and FYI I stopped being soft-hearted toward new players that I encounter sometimes so if you are playing Horizon or Seer and get knocked by me .....call your teammates for help as I will keep finishing you until you leave the match, or delete the game 👿
edit : just a small example of how broken she is
@maximas1986
As big of a problem as her tac is (its a get out of jail free card, it gives her whole team height multiple times in one use, it often prioritizes audio which leaves footsteps silent), it’s her PASSIVE which throws her way way way over the edge.
Movement is VERY important in Apex. Her passive— at all times with no effort from the player, gives her superior movement compared to all the other legends. When I play Horizon I feel like I’m playing on an entirely different game engine.
I agree that she and Seer are legitimate poor additions to the game. My hope is that people continue to complain and she receives a meaningful adjustment.- E9ine_AC2 years agoHero+@Axs5626Sxa5001 Nerf the spray pattern in her lift it is still way to OP. People easily still just 1 mag others without trying.
- Kyldenar2 years agoSeasoned Ace@hayhor Yeah, here I can agree.
"Just like scanning should not be a passive, no fall stun should never be a thing in game. For the lift, up the timer slightly or make people go up the lift slow, like valk slowly rises when she flies."
Never understood how it's both quiet and fast as hell compared to a literal Jetpack. Slow it down or speed Valk up (preferably a reasonable mix of both).
Horizon's passive should just be a naturally higher normal jump (like, 25% higher). That's more in line with the description. - @Kyldenar I like the idea of higher jump instead of the way her passive works now.
- @hayhor she already got a higher jump as secret passive, try throwing Q next to an evac tower or jump tower and use it to go up then grab the zip line to fly.
the moment before she touches the ground she jumps similar to Octane's pad second jump.
and she is the only one who can do that, even if the rest of the team does the same they can not do it.
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