Re: Get Rid Of Rats In Rank!!!

There's more to skill than just being able to aim.

Players can ride their IQ in FPS games much higher than the average no-brain aim player because they actually think about what they're doing.

If you just run-and-gun it everywhere without any consideration, you're relying on everyone else being as equally good mechanically as you, and equally dumb as you with their decision making, and that's why you're at a peak where you feel no one can "hold a gun" properly.

Maybe you should learn to improve your decision making so you can climb higher, and be on par with people both intellectually and mechanically?

It doesn't just depict how well you can hide.

It also doesn't depict how well you can aim either.

It depicts the combination of both.

If you suck at aiming, you won't climb.

If you suck at making the right decisions, you won't climb.

If you're being smart about how you play, and take the right fights, then you'll climb.

It just simply doesn't promote being an ape and charging in to every single fight in the hopes of third-partying to steal kills anymore... and the more players realise they can't just do that and expect to climb, then the better tbh.

For example;

I've just came 3rd in a match as a solo because my two teammates decided that it was more important to loot out of zone, than to relocate for the zone. I strategically fought 1v3 and almost beat the team that outed me while solo from playing smart while the person that finished 2nd just hid. We lost that game because they weren't making the correct decisions, and that impacts my rank. Ultimately, it doesn't matter how good your aim is when you have no brains.

I think based on the comments though, in this case "rat" is purely anyone that is at a higher rank that can't aim as well as the one claiming they're a rat.

Which as my comment states it isn't really accurate since players can actually be ranked higher based on intelligent decision making, instead of just being mechanical aimers.

I'm under no illusions that my aim is good - but I've come from a long career of playing online FPS games to know where the best tactical positions are, how to reach them, and when to engage against enemy teams, where as my teammates are repeatedly more intellectually along the lines of cavemen; "SEE ENEMY. RUN FEET. GUNS BRRR"

And then they have the audacity to blame someone else because they aped into a building solo against three players after giving up the "god spot".

EDIT:

FYI I don't also see myself as a rat unless I'm a solo survivor of my squad. I know that I don't stand a chance of winning a 1v3, so I tactically await teams to engage each other, and then I usually shoot a few bullets to get a knock in the fight on the team that's mostly in cover.

I had to educate my team to a win the other day with the same concept - never shoot the exposed team. You just alert them to your position, and allow them to re-position. Equally, the team already in cover gets alerted to your position, and you're in a stalemate there for first.

Always shoot the team in cover and help the exposed team. They won't adjust their positioning to your incoming fire because you're not shooting them, leaving you (or them) to kill the team that has the advantage, leaving them completely exposed when it becomes your team vs their team.

@matzesingt

"But not only that, it’s also the best way to improve the most and get as much practice as possible in. So even from an efficiency/practice standpoint that’s the way you should play."

Now that's an argument. I don't believe it applies to every player, but it applies to most.

But let me throw out yet another kind of player: someone who is already competent in a fight, though maybe no masters level hero. Maybe they like a fight or two per match, but are not interested in fighting their way through the entire match, beginning to end. Especially given the lack of quality in random match squadmates in this game.

I guess you might call that guy a "rat by circumstance" more than by disposition.

What do you think? Cheater? Bannable? Or just an unfortunate side-effect of the way the game works? I'm not trying to beg any particular answer here, but it seems to be a slightly different take on the same discussion we've been having all along.

The ratting problem is getting worse and worse, however my issue is with the cheaters and smurphs again. They're back in the matches, and the anti-cheat doesn't seem to care. I report these players who are snapping from player to player, only for EA to send a "We didn't take action" emails. They only send "We took action", when I had reported a player for a bad name.

I might as well switch to Overwatch. At least cheaters get banned on the spot and aren't allowed to grief match after match after match.

@Stevoyd I think you are oblivious a bit to be honest. A "rat" is that type of person who use specific legends to hide in difficult to see spots like small gaps in or bugged areas( behind some walls). They find specific place and try not to engage at all. This is why matchmaking is scuffed because they get points if they are the last 10 team. This behavior also screw with the other players who wants to enjoy the game normally by fighting; and by fighting I don't mean charge between 4 teams. 

One more annoying thing is that the matchmaking groups are bad, they matchmake platinum players with silver. 

I had hit masters yesterday, and I'm around 24k LP and I need to hit about 100k LP to hit pred. However, doing that isn't really possible. Everyone is either ratting in a corner, or they're aimbotting. There's so many rats and cheaters that its not even fun to play the game in any mode. Not to mention that most of these cheaters play as Horizon, because Horizon has zero audio. Like, I know she's anti-gravity based, but come on, where's the audio?

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@Stevoyd wrote:

It doesn't just depict how well you can hide.

It also doesn't depict how well you can aim either.

It depicts the combination of both.

If you suck at aiming, you won't climb.

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This is 100% wrong because in S17 you can literally climb a division in one day playing few hours without doing 0 dmg.

And here is the math to back it up:
1. For placing in the top 6 you get 80 points
2. If you know the map it's very easy to rat your way to top 6
3. One division has 1000 points which means you need 13 of those games to climb one division
4. A game where you get top 6 approxinmately lasts 13 min
5. This means that you need 13 x 12 min which is ~3h of gameplay to climb a division
6. In a perfect world you will rank up one league in 4 days

This is the perfect scenario, but let's say you play a bit less over a day and you mess up some of the games, you can still climb one league in a week easy and this is actually insane. With 0 damage, 0 aim and 0 gunplay you can climb 4 leagues in a month just by ratting. This is just wrong and needs to be adressed asap. I understand that some people are happy about this because this season they can reach a rank they would have never reached in previous seasons and in a good ranking system, but it's is just wrong and pathetic.

bro people are getting master/pred with 0 kills, we know youre just an ea bot that is hoping to dull the backlash that this dumb decision has caused. this is the worst most crippling update since launch. if it werent for comp this game is dead